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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1273 Newer› Newest»There are no players in the 2011 clas anywhere near KK and CS. That will be proven out in a couple years down the line. None of MDW recruits in 2011 will make a difference in three years. This will be a 2008 and 2010 program and head south very fast after 2010. Wouldn't be surprised if a couple of the D2 teams from MN can beat the Gophs in 2011 anf forward. 2010 is the Gophs last hurrah for a number of years.
I say that St Cloud will be able to beat the GG from 2011 to 2014. After that, I have no prediction. ;)
Good to see that all are still bitching about the same stuff. Nice to see I haven't missed anything, now back to the shadows.
SSMSouthCampus
Hard to tell if 614 is serious or trying to stir things up. Saying no 2011's are as good as players mentioned is one of the more amusing things to surface on this blog. The 2011 class is as strong or stronger at the top and much deeper than 2010.
8:15 The 11's are deeper than 2010? Well, I should think so in that there are apparently only two recruits in 2010. I've seen all of the 2011's play and maybe two of the five are of B10 caliber. Don't be surprised if what I said earlier happens. And no, I'm not trying to stir things up.
I believe 813 was referring to the class as a whole, not just the Gophers recruits. I would agree with the post. Won't be hard to determine once all the commitments are in to see which class sends the most kids to D1 programs. I don't expect 30-35 or whatever it was that 2009 had but 2011 will have a large group going on.
The GGs have all their key players returning in 2010. They didn't need to fill holes with the 2010 recruiting class. Look at their roster...you might be able to figure that out.
6:06 -
Someone that makes comments like:
"kicking the S@#$ out of someone"
and
"D2 teams will beat the Gophers in 2011 and on"
doesn't do a lot of "figuring."
It is usually a Natural Light or 12 and then an emotional response which has nothing to do with anything and means nothing.
8:44,,,,, ohhhhh wise one please enlighten us which two 2011 gopher recruits are blessed with high soccer IQs , college level work ethic , have blended with older teammates in high level games and therefore will affect outcome of big ten games in their freshman and sophmore years.
actually 11:30 - please advise which current 2008 or 2009 GG's can do what you claim (not contribute but to use your words "affect outcome").
8:44 - since MDW has already received 5 verbals from the 2011, are you saying that she's guessing wrong on 60% of these recruits?
8:44 is right there isn't anything special about the 2011 GG verbals. Same old kick n chase MN bunch.
11:54 and you must be the master of talent assessment.
what it boils down to is that there are a few "has beens" who believe their ability to assess soccer talent is second to none. they tried to put all their value and self worth into 15-17 year old girls.
they aren't happy with themselves and this is their channel for release. it is sad but true.
one of the iowa kids leaves UCLA. is the transfer rate increased with these early commitments?
If the GGs had Toney they could finish 2nd or third in the B10. They have nobody close to her so they will probably finish 4th or fifth. That's not all bad. But why can't MDW land just one stud every couple of years.I say cheat. Let the soccer boosters come up with some cash under the table.There have to be a few studs in Latin America who could come here and live with someones family. I'm sure they'd jump at the chance to go to college and play here in America.C'mon be creative. Everybody else does it.
Let's face it. There's ONE huge play-maker in the 2011 class and so far have not heard where she's going. Could it be here?!
NO
5:31 you seem so sure! Stranger things!
I can tell you that the player alluded to in the 5:28 post will not only not be a GG- but probably won't even end up in the Region. Educated guess?
UNC
Nah. UCLA or Stanford for sure.
UNC waiting to load up for 2012, UCLA already stocked , Stanford most likely with some friend connections just one 2011 recruit and fine athletic trainer department.
14/1/10 4:36 check santa clara for transfers in one to two years with nine recruits in 2010 and eight 2011 all with hype and expecting to play. Coach has to know only half will end up staying apparently not caring about how many have to transfer to be able to play. Typical ego of west coast coaches. Appears 5 players get skimmed from roster each year before graduation.
11:50 - agreed (the recent SSM transferring out at UCLA to Texas Tech is a good example - much different than a player coming back to play at home like the Kallman girl).
There are many variables and influences that go into choosing where to go to school. Some kids are athlete-students, some are student-athletes (usually some degree in between). In looking over the recruiting list, I see National Team kids going to Ivy league schools and many going to the top 10 "elite" programs. I see National Team kids staying home and others moving across country. There are no wrong decisions.
Non Resident Tuition / Fees: Texas Tech: $13,185 + $2,910
Non Resident Tuition / Fees: UCLA: $32,453.13
(numbers exclude room/board,books,personal expenses for both schools)
9:54 - not sure of your point. are we returning to the partial scholarship on the lower tuition discussion. it's very valid if the player is not getting a "full ride" (and very, very, very, very few of them do - no matter what their parents tell you).
8:45, that transfer from UCLA that lived in Iowa is not the same player that attended SSM..the ssm player is still at UCLA, she made all pac-10 freshman team, started in college cup and was 2nd team all american..
9:54, try doing your numbers again, UCLA for out of state student is 50K!!! Not 32K.
As for that transfer out out of UCLA, ISU/Iowa/Penn State/IL all had talks with her, did MN??
10:54 - you are correct on where the player in question is from.
I believe the $$$ that 9:54 used did not include room & board, etc...., but the number is correct (see official link).
http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/fees/gradfee.htm
Regarding your last line - even if MN had, would it have mattered? I guess ISU/PSU/IL didn't do a very good recruiting job and failed.
BTW - what is your axe to grind with MN and/or MDW?
probably the same axe that people grind with PW...so just continue to pit the two against each other and the schools as well. To each their own but sure makes small people out of all who do. Get a life. Bothe coaches are very good as well as the schools. If ISU or some other close border school was having success (or failures) they'd be in the mix too.
2:12, maybe it was for playing time? On top of that, look at the TT website, great facilities on top of Coach Stone being a pioneer and is a Natl Coach. Coach Stone is the one who made Colo Rush, has coached the Atl Beat before the league folded. TT is a new program. Im sure he has great connections.
11:19, who ever said anyone had a axe to grind with MN and or PSU?? It was just a question is all. jeez. Dont we have some people that are very gun shy for some reason.
2:18 - you are correct, my apologies. sorry to have lumped you in with the very vocal minority of posters out there constantly clamoring why it doesn't appear MDW recruits nationally, why MN is going the opposite way of WI, MI, etc..., how she missed out on this recruit or that recruit, and on and on and on.
I'm sure they'll say that its because they "care" so much for the program and are "pushing it to strive for excellence", but IMO it's just an easy way to cast stones (most likely something deeper in there somewhere).
LOL at 14/1/10 528-1118.
Darn, no GG's drafted, yet again. While places like Mississippi State, Wis-Greenbay, some rather lowly programs have players drafted. Whats the world coming too??
lol 9:55, now that's one pitiful and desperate attempt to knock a program. what i don't understand is if you don't like the team then why are you blogging on a Lady Gophers Soccer thread? Just to insult?
9:55
If we are talking about the WPS draft...
According to the WPS website...
It looks like Ole Miss not Miss State.
It looks like Wis-Milwuakee not Wis-Green Bay.
Weren't all those players drafted seniors? How many seniors started for the GGs this past season?
9:34, you just stuck your foot into your mouth, saying you gotta be a senior, ok, so what your saying is, once the GG are seniors, they will be everywhere on the draft board in WPS??? Got it..
once again a desperate attempt by 10:21 to rip. what can we all do to "turn that frown upside" 10:21? life's too short to go through it with your knickers in a twist all the time.
10:43, again, who is ripping. I think im posting facts, arent I?? MN's best player isnt better or being developed than a player from Mississippi?? The next player to be drafted will be CP. Hey, the Vikes won today :)
10:21,
I'm not saying any GG seniors will be drafted. What I'm saying is the players drafted this year were seniors and the GGs didn't have many (if any) seniors that played significant minutes in 2009.
Don't put words into my mouth. You've proven you're not near smart enough to know what I'm thinking.
Don't engage when enraged...you end up with your foot in your mouth.
Anonymous said...
Any of you want to bet that the GGs can't pull one of the best 2011s MN has to offer? I guarantee that they don't get the one they want the most.
11/1/10 7:34 PM
Anonymous said...
734 here. You're right, they didn't get my daughter. But that is not what I am talking about. I bet everything in my wallet she won't get the F with the most National Team experience from the current U17s. If MDW were to claim isn't interested in her, then she is a liar. Any D1 coach would be happy with that recruit. Again, this is not my child! I am just making what seems to be an obvious statement.
12/1/10 8:19 AM
I want to get these quotes back near the bottom of the page. I have a feeling the person who wrote them may want to discuss them again sometime soon...
and why would they want to discuss them again?
I'm just guessing here...
But perhaps said player's verbal is about to be announced?
Several future Gophers honored by ESPN RISE.
From ESPN Rise
(Updated January 14, 2010)
=Girls State-by-State Stars (Minnesota)
D: Lauren Bauer, Eagan (Minn.), Sr., Minnesota
F: Corinne Buie, Edina (Minn.), Sr.
F: Lauren DiGregorio, Burnsville (Minn.), Sr., Colorado College
MF: Caitlin Graboski, Woodbury (Minn.), Sr., Iowa State
MF: Erin Green, White Bear Lake (Minn.), Sr., Iowa State
GK: Maddie Jobe, Benilde-St. Margaret's (St. Louis Park, Minn.), Sr., Iowa State
D: Kassey Kallman, Woodbury (Minn.), Sr. Florida State
GK: Karalyn Leetz, Park (Cottage Grove, Minn.), Jr., Minnesota
MF: Brianne Price, Eastview (Apple Valley, Minn.), Jr., Minnesota
D: Becca Roberts, Centennial (Circle Pines, Minn.), Jr., Minnesota
F: Catie Sessions, Woodbury (Minn.), Sr., Wisconsin
F: Julie Sierks, Edina (Minn.), Sr., Northwestern
F: Taylor Uhl, Eden Prairie (Minn.), Jr.
F: Taylor Wodnick, Wayzata (Plymouth, Minn.), Jr., Minnesota
Congrats to all the young ladies.
Only 5 of the 14 were able to be snared by the GGs. I don't think those are great results, do you?
Your should have stopped at "I don't think." That is apparent.
Big Soccer showing one more 2011 added to the Gophers.
6:43 -
1. It is actually 5/13 - One of the girls apparently hasn't committed, a region teamer at that, so let's wait and see first.
2. There is only one team on the list better than the GG's and that is FSU so I highly doubt every girl was either recruited or offered a scholarship - there are only so many scholarships
3. you use one argument saying the GG's should recruit more out of state and then you are implying they should be getting more in state. Pick an argument.
And yes - congrats to all the ladies, it is good to see a strong list moving on to the Division 1 level.
8:18 - looks now like 6/14. Congrats to all the ladies.
One more 2011 recruit and MDW has replaced the upcoming senior class.
I think her numbers are looking good.
8:18 is on mark, I dont think getting 5 of those MN girls to go to the GG is a very good thing. Sure they are on ESPN, Im happy for them, lot of hard work to be on that list, however, what has their club teams done on a Natl level?? Hint, NADA!! The kid going to FSU will do very well down there, Digger going to Colorado College will do very well as well, very nice college by the way with some good soccer, however, the GG's keep thinking they MUST get all these MN girls. I just dont get it. Same ole Same ole, it must be just ole right to be just ok in the Big-10. The GG's are not going to be able to compete with Penn State, but it seems coach isnt doing anything about it. What is the programs goal, to place in the top 1/2 of the B10, win the B10, go to NCAA, advance in NCAA? By recruiting instate, it seems goal #1 is the best they might be able to pull off?? And, before someone says Im slamming on the team, Im NOT. Its just facts and the direction of the recruiting that is bothersome. I dont want to start naming names on this site, but some of these committed players, you just have to ask, WHY WHY WHY??
Reality check folks. Not many players want to move the the "Great White North".
MDW has a better chance of getting top in-state players to stay here than getting a kid from Texas, Florida, California, East Coast etc to come to this climate.
It's just not that easy.
10:17 - could have written the exact same thing for football. why can't the gopher football program ever get the kids that go to OSU/PSU or the top notch kids out of Texas, CA, or FL.
Please 10:17 help us all understand as you appear to have a keen insight into college recruiting that even with 100% scholarships (unlike soccer) even the MN football doesn't get the top notch kids? Inquiring minds want to know.....
ps - not really interested in hearing about VB, hockey, or BB as those are apples/oranges IMO (winter indoor sports with solid MN tradition/history).
again 10:17 - you either don't know how to develop players, don't know how college recruiting works, or, don't really care.
All of the above is my guess.
i won't name names either, but there are several current and graduated gopher players that you would have been saying the same thing about at the time of their commitments.
these same players went on to be All Big 10 players.
Congrats to MDW and staff. Very solid recruiting class imho with a nice mix (gk,defense, midfield, forwards).
10:17 here...Ok, so if your all ok with the same ole same ole and the direction of the program, I guess I will be as well. Just one question, who ever said you have to go to FL, TX, CA to recruit??
what is this the movie "Groundhog Day"?
2:22 - Hypothetically Speaking
so let's just say they get Shelley Southerner from Columbia, SC.
And they also get Pippy Longstocking from Reading, PA.
And then they get Maggie Canuck from BC, Canada
These are just letters on paper. They mean absolutely nothing to you, and I guarantee you have never seen them play. Heck, you have probably not seen half the D 1H.S. players from Minnesota play. Yet since the state they are from is not something besides IA or MN, you automatically assume they suck.
The depth of your arguments is hilarious.
Maggie Canuck shows up, you are super excited because she is from Canada, you think she is the next Mia Hamm just because she is not from here....
I'm not saying that the next Mia Hamm is from Minnesota, but she certainly isn't coming from another state, just because she is from another state.
The depth of your arguments is hilarious.
Think what you want. Till we see different, the GG's will be a middle of the pack Big-10 program.
With all the win win win at all cost at every age that is put on MN Clubs by parents, its kinda different here with college. its like, wow, I made it to college, now all I have to do is slide.
There is no one more than I that wants to see the GG's do well, and go to the sweet 16 EVERY year, not just once every so often, I would love to see them get to the college cup, but till things are done differently, they wont be. Now, I said I wouldnt use recruits names on this board, or else I could give examples.
Pippy Longstocking backed out of her GG commit 2 days ago, Sorry!! She was heard saying, there just is way too many instate recruits from avg club teams.
4:06 -
No Pippy didn't.
4:06 -
And you say it as if the Gophers don't plan to and set a goal of the Sweet 16 every year. Are you serious?
College coaches don't recruit club teams they recruit the players they need for their team. Being from an average club team has absolutely nothing to do with how good or bad the individual player is.
If you think that Minnesota politics within the club soccer scene is unique, you need to get out more.
4:15, I couldnt agree more, but, the players coming out of these avg clubs (at best) are not the best players within the region. They are robots. Not just the teams, but the players.
How many 2010 and 2011s could of started and made a impact with the Lightning if they would not of folded. We all know KK could, she did last yr.
TU from EP commits to MN, the 2011 class is shaping up to be very good/if not one of MDW best. And, I love the fact that they are all from MN teams. GO Gophers!!!
5:01 We don't "all know" that KK did/played with the Lightening.
Unless one followed the lightning closely or are related to kk...most would NOT know. Busted.
What is it with the person obsessed with thinking a Kallman is posting on this blog?
What is it with the person obsessed with always posting ABOUT a kallman?
7:38, aka Busted...Busted for what?? Arent you fan?? One would think since there are GG's on the Lightning (before they folded) one would follow the action. Now we are starting to see the lack of interest and mind set, just a weekend fan then?? KK was used as a example. I guess I could of used MP as well, but, did she really do anything special with the Lightning?? And now starting with the GG's??? Now we are getting somewhere. Didnt the GG's just recruit MP's younger sister?? The question is still not answered thou, what 2010s or 2011s would of done well with Lightning. I think I know the answer.
Congrats to MDW and GG staff. A very solid 2011 recruiting class. Doesn't look like she lost anyone to WI or any other B10 school (since the verbals are this early my speculation is she got the players she targeted).
Since it appears that she got everyone she had targeted and you brought up the fact that she didnt lose anyone to any other program, does that mean no one else recruited these players?? After all, MN is a target rich area isnt it?? These players are going to lead the program to the high ground.
10:43 here, 11:14 - I would have no idea if anyone else targeted them (as some of these are RII ODP players I would suspect that they did - but would have no way of confirming and not much for guessing). Understanding how the process works as I mentioned before when someone verbals this early then that player is usually an original recruiting target. Maybe others out there would know. This begs two questions....what's you point...why don't you ask the players yourself?
sensing a wee bit of sarcasm in 11:14's post.
my two cents is that the players won't take the gophers to the college cup, doubtful if even the sweet 16 (not a huge surprise since the b10 rarely sends anyone anyway), but they will be upper half in the standings and the vast, vast majority of us will be proud to have them represent the school.
20/1/10 11:40 agree 4th place in b10 2010 possible ncca bid, 6th place 2011, 5th place 2012, 4th place 2013 3rd place 2013 ncca bid.
who is coming in for 2010 and 2011??
Here's the link to the commits for all colleges:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=te2GVkHQTlqYnSB2pMfsjsQ&output=html&gid=9
Published Minnesota commits are as follows:
2010
Bauer, Lauren
Misel, MacKenzie
2011
Leetz, Karalyn
Price, Brianne
Roberts, Becca
Thyken, Katie
Uhl, Taylor
Wodnick, Taylor
Home grown stars!
What do you mean that MDW got all the 2011s? What about OS? She is THE biggest 2011, and I don't notice her name on the list?
I suppose the next thing will be something like this- "Nice try Mr Schultz. You are just mad that MDW wasn't interested in recruiting your kid." Let me help you not make the mistake by saying don't get your undies in a bunch, I am not OS's parent- just someone educated in MN players. And I am certain that MDW wanted OS, not sure the deal but obviously can't get that deal closed.
Anonymous said...
Home grown stars!
21/1/10 7:48 PM
You do mean, Home Grown. Right??!! Stars? The jury is out with that statement
10:58 - Neither can the 10 or 15 other schools recruiting OS - because she obviously hasn't committed. Get a life. Go do something useful. You are wasting everyone's time. i have no doubt that MDW would like to have OS. I also have no doubt that you are an idiot and have contributed absolutely nothing useful to the conversation.
the coach or the school isn't always to blame if a high school student decides to go elsewhere. there are lots of influences like weather, wanting to move away and spread their wings, "fit", post-graduate opportunities, and for some (last but not least) quality/ranking of the soccer program. How these (plus others) are shuffled and their priorities make every decision unique. I hope MDW gets every player she wants, but when she doesn't it's not necessarily her fault. It's kind of that "free will" thing.
9:00 has it exactly right. People on this blog seem to always assume it's MDW's fault if she doesn't get a recruit and that she didn't do enough. She is an excellent recruiter and coach, but all the other "pieces" that MOST players look for/should look for, are out of her control completely.
9:00....So what your saying is, MDW is recruiting ALL the top 25 recruits in the Nation then?? And if she would happen to get one, Super??
2:21 - your usual response (and why do you always state "so what your saying" - why the constant desire to put words into other peoples mouths?).
No coach recruits ALL the top 25 recruits in the nation. Lucky if they focus on 5-10 (and that would only be at the top elite programs). Recruiting takes time and energy and must be focused where any program can get the most bang for their buck. Chasing after out of state top 25 kids that MN, WI, IA, IL, NW, etc... have very little chance of getting is not a wise use of resources and time.
I'm sure you understand the process - players contact the schools they are interested in/schools contact the players they are interested in. I would bet that if any of those colleges mentioned above sent out weekly recruiting shout-outs to ALL the top 25 players in the nation they would get maybe 1-2 responses back from a player showing mutual interest.
Like the one post stated - "what is this the movie Groundhog Day"?
i guess i missed Groundhog Day. Sorry, I cant relate to that show. Must of been a great must see thou if your always posting it thou??
from wikipedia....
Groundhog Day is a 1993 comedy film directed by Harold Ramis, starring Bill Murray and Andie MacDowell. It was written by Ramis and Danny Rubin, based on a story by Rubin. Murray plays Phil Connors, an egocentric Pittsburgh TV weatherman who, during a hated assignment covering the annual Groundhog Day event in Punxsutawney, finds himself repeating the same day over and over again.
Was at the Gopher's BB game today and couldn't help but notice that the UofM/MDW putting on the full court press on a few recruits.
Did your DD enjoy the game?
that was a tough game to watch - especially the last 90 seconds. classic gopher basketball loss.....
Minnesota is Purgatory for all sportsfans HS College and Pro.
Minnesota is Purgatory for all sportsfans HS College and Pro.
Yes compare the over all revenue programs at the university, mens football program , basketball, and hockey with the programs of another northern simialiar school to the east at Wisconsin. Athletic director has presided over the gradual slide of each of those programs simply because its accepted that it cant compete consistently in the upper third of Big Ten. The scheduling of patsy midmajor nonconference foes helps the records of coaches but has graduated eroded the overall perceptions that Minnesota is a major player and competitor nation wide. Average is accepted here. Badgers athletic director wants to win at every sport and compete as national power. This Gopher downward below ground level trend and slippage will continue in all the programs womens too. One NCCA appearance in 6 years and a 27-30-3big ten record is accepted with no hope of competing nationally is ok because of dismal past record of previous coach. The need to change gopher culture and mentality needs to be done not at womens soccer level but at the top and get athletic director that wants to win national title in every sport.
8:15 I understand your desires for MN to excel as do we all.
Regarding WI and the women's programs, "wanting to" and having the consistent results to back it up are too different things. Only time will tell if you are correct or not.
Well said 8:15!!
8:15 What is the NCCA?
darn, i guessed wrong on the "weekly bash mdw and gophers" pool. I had last night at 10:56pm and it looks like it didn't come in until this am.
hey 8:15 - could you be more consistent?!? you're costing me money!!
8:15 - so you are telling me that Wisconsin has had an amazing soccer record the past few years. What a joke.
At least you waited a few days to spew and misspell more jargon. Can you at least type and spell correctly? Try to use complete sentences if possible as well.
Since you use the Badgers as your reference point then explain these numbers? They want to win more? How do you figure?
Sear's Director Cup standings:
2009/2010 Minnesota 20th
Wisconsin 21st
2008/2009 Minnesota 14th
Wisconsin 41st
2007/2008 Minnesota 28th
Wisconsin 18th
2006/2007 Minnesota 20th
Wisconsin 16th
2005/2006 Minnesota 16th
Wisconsin 22nd
2004/2005 Minnesota 22nd
Wisconsin 19th
2003/2004 Minnesota 20th
Wisconsin 26th
what's the old expression in journalism (especially tabloids)...."don't let the facts get in the way of a good story".
The bottom line is The Big Ten Stinks and gets no respect. Maturi was a terrible hire and his hires stink. The Gophers #1 priority is to just keep players out of jail and not to flunk out.
8:15 & 5:31 - pure opinions/side of an issue of which they are entitled to.
1:21 - an opionion/contrary side of the issue but substantiated by some facts.
most folks usually tend to send with the side that has some statistical support (at least that's my opinion).
8:15 stated the 3 revenue sports gophers football , basketball and hockey that allow the other non revenue progams to exist have slowly eroded downward to status of low national and even regional expectations. The other program of neighboring state is consistently now in upper third of big ten and rated in top twenty nationally to generate the income necessary to make other programs long term financially
competitve. Not too long ago the athletic department had a several million dollar deficit and was facing dropping some of mens sports programs. If the main programs continue on this trend then that level of success that major mens revenue have becomes the norm of minor nonrevenue sports programs.. Check this years Big Ten record of mens football, basketball and hockey compared with UofW. NOW ask yourself how long A.D. going to brag about the minor revenue sports teams making up for their schools Sears Cup finishing with decreasing athletic budget. Do any of those revenue teams have a chance to compete for a national title or even a Big Ten title. You dont attract top level talent by AD and coaches with an attitude that its ok to schedule midmajor or non conference patsies to ensure their jobs. Top student athletes want to compete against the best. How many years would a major revenue coach stay if they went to one bowl game or had one NCCA tournament bid and a less than .500 record in Big Ten after six years? Then also acknowledging program with Big Ten best facities cant recruit outside the state small recruitng base. Average is Ok because its better than the past apparently. With a new football stadium , highly paid basketball coach and a state in land of hockey something is still missing. It lays in expectations, standard of excellence and intrinsic competitivenss of AD and who he hires and continues to employ. Get an AD that has competed himself in college at a high level as student athlete someone the stature of Tony Dungy. Added to this equation is the dismal graduating records of the student athletes competing in those revenue sports. Getting better expectations and culture of constant success starts at the top. The soccer program has improved has good student athletes but needs to be pushed further the same as revenue sports team pressure to compete on regional and national level constantly. If it doesnt happen pounce on opportunity to hire a coach of national stature that has better chance of winning like womens volleyball or wrestling coach have shown over the years.
6:36 - excellent post. agree completely regarding the football program (although the gophers non-conference schedule is traditionally tougher than WI). please help me understand how the AD is holding back the basketball program (with a top tier coach)? not sure what to tell you about hockey as until the last few years they always did well. regarding women's soccer, could you please rattle off a few of the national stature coaches that you had in mind (and please save us all from reading about someone like Greg Ryan at MI)?
To hire a national stature coach if opportunity presents itself is to improve the summer camps and winter clinics availabity,number of fields; dorm access,publicity and campus experience. The camp income for most coaches of that status is several hundred thousand and serve dual purpose of recruiting students to campus. You assist in making camp profitable for coach then you can pick and choose. Another is sponsoring tournaments and sponsorships. The key is income generated outside salary for coach and assists without aligning salary structure laid down by AD for other sports. It gets back to intrinsic drive of AD to make it happen.
One name comes to mind is divison 3mens coach with big time womens head coaching experience and constant winning record at very high level programs coaching now in ozarks. But short leash needed with strong code of conduct in public. Dont need to mention any futher names hope MDW program keeps improving and attracting good student athletes along with a few special players from surrounding states and Canada.
I dont think you need some Natl Level coach up here at MN..MDW is a good coach, however, I have a problem with her recruiting skills. Lets use a few examples.
There is a freshman at Tennessee, went to Shattuck for one yr, she is on the Canadian U20 Natl Team, plays hockey (just like Alev at WI), This player was recruited by a smaller school in FL, WI and Tennessee, she picked TN. Another Canadian Natl teamer, also went to Shattuck, she is now playing with the full CNT, she was recruited by Vanderbilt, and went there. I can say, both players were not recruited by MN. Another example, the player that ended up going to UCLA, she was not recruited by MN, she made visits to WI and Iowa in the B10, here are 3 players in her own back yard and not one of them were recruited. Not saying she would of gotten them, but that is not the point. Of all the tournaments at Shattuck, MDW was not at any of them. Now, lets look at 2010s and 2011s. There are a few Shattuck players that just committed to Univ of IL, another to Univ of IND, and another one to Evansville and SW IL State. 2 of these recruits are again on the Canadian Youth NT, another one is on the Region II ODP team, and the 4th one is on the Sweden NT. Now, either MDW's new in-exerienced coach she just hired last yr isnt doing a good enough job of finding this players and letting MDW know that she has to get down there at SSM, or, MDW just doesnt care?? Farmer at WI is a heck of a recruiter, Bell at FSU is also a heck of a recruiter being involved in Region II ODP, most of these great coaches have great asst coaches that do a great job of recruiting. MN, has a beginner. That might be the first thing I would be looking at when it comes time to go over the over all operations of the program.
To hire a new coach you need the old to quit or be released.
I don't see MDW leaving on her own.
What exactly would be the reason to fire her at this point?
The program's headed in the right direction.
Maybe it's not moving fast enough for some, but there has been progess.
And regarding the guy in the Ozarks.
Maybe there's a reason he moved from women's to men's coaching.
are the previous 6 posts all from the same person?
Nope.
7:44 - hundreds of thousands of dollars for soccer camps income for "most coaches of that status"? If week long residential camps are $400 (usually more) then they would need 500 campers just to generate $200K. That's assuming that all the coaches needed, food, housing, fields, etc... are all free.....
This is just the same person with the same whine just coming at it now from a different angle. Have to admire the persistance (which begs the bigger question - why?).
If it makes you feel better to think it's the same person....have at it. Incorrect though. Have to admire YOUR persistance though.
Nope
10:35 & 10:36 - why not give this a try......let's see if no one responds back to your ongoing comments regarding MDW/MN soccer and let's see how long it takes before you post again along this same topic (personally I'd give it tops 4-5 days).
10:35..great line, telling the dude that you admire HIS or HERS persistance. I like reading about the pros and cons, but this poster has nothing positive to say, all he can do is complain about the posters. And I would happen to agree, there are many different posters on this board.
As for camps, camps are almost at every program now. Some cost a whole lot more than others. You look at Notre Dames camps. Camps are cash cows. Here is what is being recommened by some. If your a ODP player on the Region team, then it is recommened not to attend these camps, dah, camps are for players not that involved in ODP and that arent on club teams that do not travel like the Eclipe/MTAs of the world. If MN is having these camps, who is attending them?? Is it used as a recruiting tool, or a cash cow?? I would think, the kids/players who attend MN camps are mostly from MN. Unlike players from all over the US that go to UNC, Notre Dame, Cali schools camps.
There is a big U17/18 tournament down at Shattuck this weekend. Some out of state teams coming in. Wonder if the GGs will have a coach there. Since I will be there, I will let you all know if I saw the Maroon and Gold down there.
"big U17-U18 tournament"? All the U18's are already committed (unless playing DIII).
Virtually all the top U17's have already committed or are wrapping up the process.
MDW is already done with 2010 and has 6 2011's verbals and I'm sure is either done or waiting on a couple of more. Why would anyone go down there? Maybe if there were U15's & U16's, but the older age groups are either done or wrapping up.
8:55 -
The two kids you speak of from the CNT that went to Vandy and Tennessee both started most of the games, scored 2 or 3 goals the entire year and took 15-20 SOG.
Please tell me how this is so much better than what minnesota is getting locally? Why would MDW/GG's go after this type of player when they know better what they are getting locally.
Please tell me the history of CNT players in the U.S. collegiate game. I don't see it. Who are the great ones. I don't see it. What is their success rate?
It is because you work for Shattuck and are trying to promote your program. Good for you, but come up with some better arguments.
The player at UCLA is a good one, no one has disputed this. But she isn't from Canada.
You say Farmer is such a tremendous recruiter, but in the same paragraph, you talk about the CNTeamer turning down Wisconsin.
Well, which is it. Make up your mind.
The Canadian National Team argument is so old and tired it causes most on here to yawn.
We understand....you want MDW to get all your Shattuck players. Ok, topic over, let's start a new one.
He will go away from the Shattuck/CNTeamer argument for a few days, rotate a few other arguments and then come back to it.
Ground Hog Day!
8:55 -
Agreed that Bell is a good recruiter at FSU.
I'm sure Farmer is as well.
And I'm sure the young one for the Gophers is doing just fine as they are done or near done with 2011.
I'm still not seeing a single commitment for 2011 for Wisconsin's stellar recruiting.
Regarding academics at the U the U's graduation rate is on of the lowest in the Big Ten. Another reason making it difficult to recruit.
Really don't know how many student athletes ever look at the graduation rate when detrmining a school fit...seems it's up to the individual to decide their own fate as far as graduation.
Did it ever occur to you that Wilkins is cutting back to 24-25 players. She is only bringing in five 2010's to keep her roster at 28-29 for 2010. She will likely only bring in two-three for 2011 to try to be at 24-25 for the 2011 season. I know this because another MN kid from 2010 would be committed to UW for 2010 if it wasn't a numbers game for the 2010 class. The Badgers also played 8-9 players who were FR/SO this past year so they are going to be VERY GOOD going forward. About her and Farmer, they are both very upstanding people and are going to make life very difficult for the rest of the B10 going forward. The player I'm referring to was just too late to get noticed in time for the 2010 class, but I can tell you that UW will be a very first class and good program going forward. One last note, Wilklins did not turn any of her non recruits from the previous coach loose, which says alot about her class, even though she had to pass on players she would have loved to bring in right now for 2010 and for the 2009 class.
11:07- Even though you are so certain that MDW wouldn't think of going down to SSM this weekend to look at players, you should know that her staff has committed to attend. So, I guess you really don't know jack after all?
I will say that you SHOULD be right. All of the seniors on U18 teams SHOULD have a home, but SSM has not dont a very good job with this group. As I write this I am watching the U20 Canada vs. Mexico game which happens to have an SSM player who is a senior (and a former one as well) playing who JUST RECENTLY committed to a school. So, never say never. There are jewels out there which have not been snatched up.
who's Jack?
This quote always reminds me of many of the more ardent posters on this and other threads (usually MTA or SSM related):
Queen:
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Hamlet Act 3, scene 2, 222–230
"When we declare that "the lady doth protest too much," we almost always mean that the lady objects so much as to lose credibility. The Queen affirms so much as to lose credibility. Her vows are too elaborate, too artful, too insistent."
Nothing like a little classic literature to start the day.......everyone can now go back to their American Idol office pools.
5:31 -
Hate to burst your bubble, but Wilkins keeping players from the former staff around wasn't a charity event. She had to. A little naive......
I just know some of the recruits that will be attending MN, and I just dont see some of them being big time play makers is all.
I just know some of the recruits that will be attending MN, and I just dont see some of them being big time play makers is all.
hard not to disagree, but like the saying goes, "a good team needs piano players and piano movers". they've got some very solid athletes/players/finishers but no real playmakers as of yet in either their 2010 or 2011 classes (imo).
There are probably 2-3 big time playmakers in all of the big 10, and there are probably only 20 in the entire country.
Saying that one of the 2010/2011's isn't a big time playmaker is very relative and although probably true, not a bold statement. I believe one or two of them could be.
There is a ton of pace and potential in the 2011 class. It is easy to anonymously state you have seen them play and they aren't big time in your opinion. Your background and ability to assess talent are completely anonymous, thus so is your opinion.
We'll just have to see, but I think they are a heckuva a class.
People said some of the same things about Jennie Clark when she first came in. Who is this kid we have never heard of from iowa? Well, now she is an All American.
Could be the same for a 2011 or two.
wasn't Jennie Clark a defender? imo when folks talk about playmakers they are referring to versatile cm's or creative forwards. don't get me wrong - she was a great player and deserving all american, but hardly a playmaker in the more general sense.
Agreed - I wasn't saying she was/is a playmaker.
I was stating that she was regarded is a similar way and turned out to be pretty good.
10:47 here, sorry -she still is .....(made it sound like she had already graduated but the gg's will be fortunate to have her for one more year).
gotcha 10:52, imo the rare playmakers either have it or they don't, not usually something that is developed. i agree that there are maybe 20 in the country and only a few currently residing in the big 10. if given the opportunity there are lots of current gg's and incoming gg's that can put the ball in the back of net. the harder and rarer part is finding those who can create the opportunities.
Well, the gg did show up at the SSM Showcase this weekend. As did over 40 other coaches. FULL HOUSE without question.
One thing I did notice, however- MDW showed up on Sat just in time for the U18 MTA game and then bailed. Multiple, multiple games on Saturday with great players and MDW came for the U18 MTA game and left. Then, on Sunday one of the gg Assistants showed up for the Woodbury vs. 56rs game (last game of the day). Looks like they are really interested in recruiting.....right?
9;08
gg's are Big Ten. Other than Wayzata , not much for a D1 coach to look at. MTA 18s are not a team I would expect MDW to look at.
11:50- Really? So, you don't think there was much for a Big Ten coach to look at other than Wayzata? Are you kidding me?
I guess she probably knows better than Janet Rayfield from Illinois or Eileen Narcotta from Iowa? They were there and watched each of the teams. There were coaches there recruiting from the East Coast, and MDW couldn't muster up the time to actually watch some kids who were playing within 90 minutes of her house by car?
It would seem that a coach would want to have one of her staff there looking for a diamond in the rough at the very least.
Were there any 2012's or 2013's?
8:02
The 18s of note should be decided, of the 17s Wayzata has 3-4 , other than that.....
Rayfield , Narcotta, probably looking at Iowa and Illinois contacts.
The SSM tourney hosted U17s and U18s.
U17s are basically Jrs, right?
That means they graduate in 2011.
Perhaps the other coaches named still need to fill 2011 roster slots.
From the looks of it, MDW has that year covered and is looking towards 2012 and beyond.
#10, the kid from Sweden, is VERY good and probably the best player there this wend, however, not committed.
The coaches know exactly who they are going to watch before they show up.
Rayfield, Narcotta, MDW and I'm sure most of the other coaches knew exactly who they were there to watch.
Coaches don't just fly around to random "big" club tourneys to watch random players. They know exactly who they are going to watch before they get there.
I can tell you first hand that the Gopher coaching staff blew us away in recruiting our daughter. It wasn't even comparable to many other quality programs to which she was recruited.
For others, they may have a different experience.
However, the animosity here stems from one person's personal frustration. I wouldn't know what it is, but it seems quite amateurish.
With signing day on Wed. will there be any surprises?
MDW has periodically attended MTA practices and watches drills etc...The majority of the best players come out of MTA. Only a couple from other clubs. She knows the Minnesota players quite well.
9:49, who has animosity? why are you assuming? I think people on this thread (and this thread is more civilized than most) who just might be a GG fan should have their 2 cents worth. If those that are GG fans and are not happy with the way things are progressing, or, are happy, should express and state comments. Who said who is wrong or right? Im not the same poster as 9:08pm, but that poster is correct, the GG coach showed up just prior to the MTA Blue team played, and left shortly after. For each their own I guess. 9:08 was correct as well, there were alot of coaches from D1 all the way down to D3. From South Florida, to Maine, to Wy and everywhere in between. I was close enough to hear coach Rayfield state that she was very impressed on Shattuck and what is taking place up there.
of course Rayfield is going to say that. she is recruiting.
Yep she is, DAH!? Not only for IL but for Region II ODP as well.
You know who I give props to? The Coaching staff from Bemidji State, University of Wisconsin- Milwaukee, and Luther College. They were there through the whole thing, including Sunday afternoon.
They put in the hours this weekend- I hope that it pays off for them in the end.
work harder or work smarter?
I wish them the best of luck too, but it is unrealistic to think of many of the programs that were there to stay for every game every day.
People are assuming that this past w/end at SSM they were only U17/18s playing...Wrong. There were numerous U16s playing up on numrous teams.
Any current GG players leaving the team or are they still all in tact.
I heard that one hockey player is going to play soccer in the fall.What impact if any on her scholarship?
Any current GG players leaving the team or are they still all in tact.
I heard that one hockey player is going to play soccer in the fall.What impact if any on her scholarship?
Congatulations to all DI girls expected to sign today:
• Taylor Bare, Anoka: Mo.-Kansas City
• Lauren Bauer, Eagan: Minnesota
• Catelyn Graboski, Woodbury: Iowa St.
• Erin Green, White Bear Lake: Iowa St.
• Stephanie Jacobson, Eagan: North Dakota State
• Maddie Jobe, Benilde-St. Margaret's: Iowa St.
• Kassey Kallman, Woodbury: Florida St.
• Anna Kouba, Centennial: Wis.-Green Bay
• Mary Kroening, Woodbury: Georgetown
• Jacquelyn Ley, Hill-Murray: Fairfield (Conn.)
• Kalena Litch, Wayzata: Drake
• Ahna Logan, Roseville: Wis.-Green Bay
• Bo Podkopacz, Wayzata: Northwestern
• Catie Sessions, Woodbury: Wisconsin
• Julie Sierks, Edina: Northwestern
• Brianna Wersal, Lakeville South: North Dakota
Good luck to all!
here's a few more that were plucked off of the recruiting list:
Cygan, Brittany GK Woodbury, MN MN STATE MANKATO
DiGregorio, Lauren F Burnsville, MN COLORADO COLLEGE
Lumberg, Samantha D Woodbury, MN BEMIDJI STATE
Melchert, Jordin GK Inver Gorve Height, MN DAYTON
Vallarelli, Courtney F Eagan, MN MN STATE MANKATO
Werth, Maren M Bloomington, MN AUGUSTANA (SD)
Congrats to all the girls.
Gopher Signing Day Blog
Recruits
Lauren Bauer
MacKenzie Misel
Alex Koller (transfer)
Spring Schedule
@ Missouri (March 7)
@ Wake Forest and @ Duke (March 26-28)
@ Nebraska (April 17)
Big 10 vs Big 12 Spring Challenge (April 24 @ ELR)
(vs Kansas and Iowa State) (Iowa attending)
Also from Gopher Signing Day Blog
Fall Schedule Notes ....
@ Notre Dame
@ Vanderbilt, Western Kentucky,Belmont
vs UC Santa Barbara & San Diego
@ Bowling Green & Toledo.
@ South Carolina
vs Illinois State
Wow - tough to knock that schedule. Duke, WF & Missouri in the spring. A great fall schedule with ND & S. Carolina coming off v. strong seasons and UCSB and San Diego are always in the tournament.
Welcome to the Big-10 Freshies!!!
Here’s a little info on the Gopher’s fall opponents.
I arranged them according to RPI; the * marks teams who earned an NCAA bid.
#5 Notre Dame* (Big East #1; Tourn Champ; NCAA Semis)
#9 South Carolina* (SEC # 2; Tourn Champ; NCAA “16”)
(#36 Minnesota) (Big Ten #4: No Tourn)
#47 San Diego* (West Coast #3; No Tourn; NCAA Round 1)
#51 Vanderbilt (SEC #4; Tourn Quarters)
#93 Western Kentucky (Sun Belt #3; Tourn Quarters)
#99 Illinois State* (Missouri Valley #1; Tourn Champ; NCAA Round 1)
#103 UC Santa Barbara* (Big West #3; Tourn Champ; NCAA Round 1)
#123 Toledo (Mid American #5;Tourn Semis)
#148 Belmont (Atlantic Sun#2; Tourn Finals)
# 252 Bowling Green (Mid American # 11; DNQ Tourn)
35+ young women signed NLI's for DI and DII soccer programs today as well as many others attending DIII schools.
Congrats to all the ladies on their effort and accomplishments.
Regarding the GG's, with all those road games, hopefully they can steal one or two from from one of the better programs. Big 10 conference play is still key as that would appear to impact the RPI's much more than the non-conference results. They need to finish at least top 4 in the conference (in my opinion) as last year's conference results in the NCAA College Cup could still linger. What helps out everyone is if other teams also perform well outside of conference play against quality teams (wins/draws please - no moral victories like we played them tough, west coast road trip travel is tough, etc...).
C'mon....other than ND you got a few average teams and the rest are cupcakes. Let's not get carried away folks.
5:23 - that's all you got...surely you have better than that.
#9 - S. Carolina away?
UCSB had an off year due to injuries but bounced back to win their conference tournament
San Diego was off a bit last year but traditionally end the year in the top 25.
7 of the ten are on the road.
If the GG's end up 6-3-1 IMO it would be considered a success.
Is it a "death march" - no, but compared to most schools non-conference schedules it is actually very solid and challenging.
Love to see some others to compare it against.
I guess you could call Bowling Green a "cupcake"...
But other than that one, I don't see many other's.
Wow! That is an impressive number of girls listed in 8:41 and 9:21. Some top notch soccer/academic schools too. Those objective results belie the whining on this blog about the poor quality of soccer in MN. Too bad MDW missed the boat on this class, but she is doing a good job trying to make up for it in 2011. Go MN!
Encouraging better non conference schedule for 2010... hopefully help team get NCCA bid with another 4th place finish in Big Ten. True test will come if program continues that in 2011 when younger team competes in Big Ten and likely to drop in standings and unlikely to qualify. Need to keep pushing program forward and challenge players, coaches and the image of program nationally. Good job on gopher womens web site and blog.
It is a better schedule than last year for sure. GG's SHOULD beat USC (east coast USC), the Cali schools at home, should win with home field, Vandy, again, I dont see them being all that.
why should they beat USC (east coast) in an away game? i like your confidence in the girls but that game sounds kind of tough.
Here's a TD link that lists which schools landed the most Top 100 players.
http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/players-to-watch/players-to-watch-archives/nid-14213/Decisions-for-100
Rankings in soccer mean even less that those in football; show me the results in six months.
Well 12:52, the top 4 teams in the College Cup were right on the mark. 1 v 1 and 1 v 2. I would think that would prove the point??
Different deal, 2:06. The rankings you are talkinga bout were the rankings as the year progressed, not the pre-season rankings.
Also, it isn't very tough to figure out who will be the top 5 College teams from year to year. How many surprises ever jump in there? The only thing that changes is the order of the top 5, but the names remain the same for the most part.
Success breeds success- this is why it is important to not only develop players but also to have great results. If you have great results, you get great players. Pretty simple formula, isn't it?
3:19, but whats up with changing the rules in the middle of the question. You asked, I answered, then you said "different deal", WTF?? Penn State will win the Big-10, Flat out!! MN, middle of the pack.
In regards to the statement about rankings at the end of the year, I think UNC, UCLA, Stanford were ranked in the top 10 for most of the season starting out before the first whistle. Notre Dame started slow but moved up thru the polls as the season progressed. But, I guess that is different. Got it.
As for USC, they had a good season last yr in the SEC. They were the surprise team of that conference. However, with the stellar 2010s the GG's pulled in, IM sure they can travel down to SC and pull one out.
927, is your last statement tongue in cheek or are you serious?
So Carolina is loosing a lot to graduation.
The 2010 senior rich Gopher roster may be able to handle the Gamecocks even without the freshmen.
Lets not get excited. Gophers will finish in the middle of the pack and that's about what you should expect. The only real in state studs went to FS and WI.MDW whiffed on both of em.The Gophers had their once in a lifetime run and now it's back to the pack.
12:24 agreed. Both KK and CS would have helped the Gophs this year. The two MN recruits won't, maybe the Iowa kid will. Heard that ND is transferring from UWGB to MSU-Mankato. Anyone hear anything if she is one of the five leaving GB?
A transfer to MSU would make ten new players this fall.
They just signed nine.
Swami Sez
KK will leave FSU and transfer to MN after two years because the social climates of FL and MN are oil and water.
LB will have a more successful Big Ten career than CS.
When both come true, we will see that MDW didn't whiff on the 2010s.
BTW, I wish both CS and KK the best in their college careers (except when CS and WI play the GGs). I don't expect the GGs will play FSU.
for those who want MDW to recruit top out of region talent....
http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/players-to-watch/players-to-watch-archives/nid-14219/Western-Girls-Galore
11:30 - not sure what your comment is?
The NCAA is hitting FSU with many penalties across various sports for cheating.This is a big time deal.
The NCAA will soon lower the boom on So Cal for cheating. That's why several of their coaches have bailed out.
The NCAA is hitting FSU with many penalties across various sports for cheating.This is a big time deal.
The NCAA will soon lower the boom on So Cal for cheating. That's why several of their coaches have bailed out.
Thanks for your opinion, Joey Two-times. Dude, what is your deal? I guess in some ways, it is just like a moniker.
what do any of the FSU and potential USC sanctions have to do with women's college soccer?
7/2/10 9:35..... All three players had significant injury time during club or prep career during high school years. If any of 3 going to have successful college experience against bigger stronger faster and way more physical college players all must dedicate themselves to staying injury free and year round conditioning to stay healthy. Their success lies in their individual self dedication and work ethic in off season conditoning. All three possess the skills and physical talents to contribute to their respective teams in some role freshman years.
After 2010 MDW will concede 2011 as rebuilding year and basis for using large 2011 freshman class rather than 2010 class with less depth and talent.
Why would anybody want to go to a college that's a cheater?
All 3 are some of the fittest players in the state. If anything, those 3 need to learn when to give their bodies a break not condition more.
There is conditioning for playing and there is conditioning geared for injury prevention. Conditioning for back problems, leg and groin strains and ankle ligaments. That conditioning is done not under coaches direction or as team but individual player and trainer. If left unattended and unaddressed the incidence and reoccurence much higher. None of those players exposed to twenty hours of practice or play a week , week after week in spring or fall sessions and games. Will be less occasions in college to give bodies a break and still stay competive. Possible issues should be addressed now and do hope all get to showcase their considerable soccer skills at healthy highest level.
9:24, your attempted rip of the 2010s simply puts on display both a lack of knowledge and insecurity in your DD's 2011 class. Next time, try praising without ripping; it is far more convincing.
lol 9:36. There are currently over a dozen schools on probation (including Alabama, Arkansas, Baylor, BYU, New Mexico, Oklahoma, TCU, etc...) and this doesn't include some recent ones (or self-imposed) like FSU, USC, Arizona. What about GG basketball from just a few years ago or Ohio State? When Roy Williams left Kansas basketball to go to UNC, the following year Kansas went on probation for events that occurred during William's timeframe. If you excluded every school with any kind of violation in their past your list would start shrinking pretty quickly.
Please....LB compared to CS - what color is the sky in your world!!
Please 7:17...let's not put any player down. They have both worked hard, worked through injuries and are both excellent players. Wish them both the best in college and oh by the way, wish them ALL the best in their college academic careers.
As 7:17 intimates, the better players in MN got away from MDW in the 2010 class. True, she got the better players for 2011. but the damage done in 2010 will hurt after this next season. Watch!
Did she get the better 2011 players? Wouldn't you consider the three best to be Kallman, Sessions, and Schultz for the 2011s?
As far as I can see, MDW is bating .000 on all three.
Kallman and Sessions are 2010's. Schultz's is a 2011.
OS is not anywhere near CS and KK's league. We're talking two very distinct levels.
There isn't a single 2011 that is as good as any of the 2010's.
lol
MDW must have been disheartened to see a 5-6 goal difference in a recent scrimmage between the 2010s she missed on and the 2011s she loaded up on.
Of course, all is not lost, since it was only a scrimmage, the 2011s still have time to develop and/or blossom, the GGs managed to get one of the 2010s (and a girl from Iowa to boot (pardon the pun)) . . .
when was this scrimmage?
While you all bicker about what MN players she missed out on, what about all the other top 100 players she missed out on?? Im still convinced that the best 2010 player in MN is the Swedan girl at Shattuck that is NOT committed to any college, and she is a Sr.
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