Thursday, August 20, 2009
Lady Gophers Soccer
The lady gophers start the preseason with a #18 national ranking. With last year's outstanding season behind them, and loosing many oustanding seniors, they may not be able to match last year's success. They should be a very entertaining team, loaded with local talent. Get out to a match and support MN's only D1 program! Click here for schedule
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 1273 Newer› Newest»Ok, straight from the teams website...The defense lead or where at the top of every record for this yrs squad in the B10, then why, did they not do that well?? Cuz maybe they dont have that one special player that can make things happen up top. Most if not all top players are from where??
Like football ...OS and MICH get first crack at the top players with descent gpas etc...the rest of the Big Ten gets what's left over. That's why you get so many at risk players here at Minnesota. Same story with basketball only worse.The coach has to be a probation officer.
The only exception is NW. They usually just get the brainiacs.
The only time the Gophers had an advantage in recruiting was back in the dark ages when nobody was recruiting the Black athletes. It only lasted a couple of years. An ol Southern Gophers coach Murray Warmath was the first coach to recruit them. His teams kicked azz and he won a National Championship.Didn.t take long for lily white Bama ,Tenn etc to recruit them. That was the end of it for Minnesota til this day.
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You keep hearing that the only reason a kid would stay at U is because it is close to home. Maybe to some kids academics matter more than others. The U of M isn't Harvard by any means but it is certainly better than some of the warm weather schools that have been mentioned. Different kids have different priorities.
9:55, how do you know? Are you a homer?
No, he just doesnt understand that if you go to ANY big time program, they make sure that the players are passing the grades with tutors, so many hours of study hall, etc. All coaches are on top of this. Do you think they want their players flunking?? That doesnt look good. However, I do know a few players that are going to school with a Major in Soccer.
1007, actually a very high number of u of mn athletes never finish college. over the last 20yrs it MIGHT be the highest fail to grad rate in the b10? (hey joel, do you think the 17s on their ACTs has something to do with that? or do they just miss their probation officer?)
the 'hand holding' the coaches and staff does isn't enough when the athlete doesn't have the mindset (or the abilities) to be a student 1st and an athlete 2nd. bringing in a weak candidate is a sign of a weak/shallow coach who doesn't understand college themselves or they are only focused on getting themselves out of the hot seat by posting more Ws that next season. (long term failure of a program does not show the coach is a white knight either. it just shows he/she can't do the job)
statistics show that MOST kids (athletes or not) tend to stay regional when attending college. so why would ca or tx coaches even give a mn player a 2nd thought in the 1st place? the shallow mn h.s. soccer pool (re: no stud players who are 5'10" - 145lbs - fast as the wind) will keep u of mn 'local' (mid to bottom of the b10) for many years to come.
ems
lol - ems. sounds like today's talk radio. take exceptions, sensationalize them while attempting to turn them into the societal norms. sweeping broad generalizations.
ps - why can't SW develop any of these soccer studs (and if you check the USWNT, I think there might be one player who fits your stud player description).
722...exceptions? well to a point you're right. it's apples and oranges... if you take your non-traditional students (adult, night class, etc), students with a purpose (knows from day 1 what he/she wants to study), working students, non-working students, academic scholarship students, students who are 510-145-and can't run like the wind...the list goes on) there are too many variables to make final statements...like life, perception can be some people's reality.
the uswnt does have some horses that fit the bill. the younger teams, the smaller the stature. :)
my point was, get that 1 kid who draws national attention and the rest will benefit through osmosis.
tough to change some parent's minds when it comes to hockey (if that's who you were referring to) there's something in edina's h2o that prevents studs from being raised here. most of the kids are munchkins who depend on team work to succeed. except in their ACTs, SATs, and as national merit scholars. :)
ems
Dear Patrick Reusse and your looming ilk,
I know that the Vikings are good now that they have a QB, the Twins are not in season, and you are worn out talking about Tim Brewster, so the areas for you to cast your venom have decreased, but why in the world are you and your relatives hanging out on a women's soccer blog. Are things really that rough around the office?
The Vikings got their Favre, the Twins are still searching for their Santana and the Gopher Soccer team is still looking for Marta. That is not big news.
What is also not big news is that the U of M has athletes that have made some poor choices, just like every other school in the country.
Also not big news - it's cold in Minnesota, the U predominantly must recruit from other cold weather states - so what.
So yes, the news has been tough on you lately.
I've got an idea for some news. Since you never played a sport in your life, how about you go on a new salad diet, you might actually be able to walk up and down the soccer field once. People would probably follow this news more than the mumbling and gurgling you have been throwing out for years in the Star Trib and now on the Gopher soccer blog.
Happy salad hunting.
College Cup 1st weekend predictions:
MSU - lose
PSU - win, win
OSU - lose
Pur - lose
WIS - win, lose
My dark horse might actually be Wisconsin due to home field and the two higher seeded teams are from FL & AZ.
PSU off to Sweet 16, but then will most likely run into UCLA. Hoping for better and in soccer it's not uncommon to be completely out-played, out-shot, out-just about everything but still win 1-0 in OT or PK's.
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The 9:37 comment is what's wrong with America. Everybody does it so I will too.
The U's problems "are what they are". As a taxpayer issues like graduation rates should be monitored and the enablers should be punished.
For those interested, you can follow all the NCAA games on the NCAA website..GAMETRACKER.
NO, screwed by the selection committee. Sorry your daughter didn't get recruit 2:46. Better luck next time, try staying out of the shallow gene pool and maybe they will have a chance!
Wait how is Harvard 'better' than the U? Nestled on the rude, east coach, run by rude east coast a-holes...hmmm I would suggest a mid-west university or college over the east coast. Run by arrogant academics. Most of these idiots end up as wall street theives or court-system theives (aka lawyers). Yes the Southwest has nice weather, but generally import their top students, because their HS suck.
5:50, what about the west coast, upper NW? South West??
Yes the Harvard crowd, they end up consuming tax dollars instead of contributing much...through overprices, unnecassary research.
I have worked with 4 Harvard grads and 4 MIT grads in the IT industry. All very book smart, only 1 could accomplish a simple workplace task. That makes a 12.5% success rate. Outstanding...
Looks like Purdue is going to go down in round 1
geez. someone's got a wild hair up their.....
not much of a happy hour for a few folks out there.....
many of the games you can also watch free on your computer.
go to the NCAA site, click on the gametracker site and check to see if the home school is webcasting the game.
Here's the link for all the live action:
http://www.ncaa.com/brackets/2009/ncaa_bracket_DI_soccer_women.html
MSU being outshot 27-3, but still 0-0. You gotta love college soccer!
MSU finally succombs to the pressure. Santa Clara with the goal in OT to win.
Univ. MN Duluth womens soccer has moved on to the second round of NCAA DII tournament, go Bulldogs!
WI wins in PK's over ASU 4-3 when the Sun Devils miss their last two!
Looks like a new show may be in town! NSC in talks with USL for a team other than the Thunder. How does this affect MTA? www.insidemnsoccer.com
AZ ST conf record 2-6-1. Wisc wins so
PS hammers Colgate 5 zip
Santa Clara slaughters Mi St
shots 29-3 corners 10-3
Cent Mi 2 Purdue zip
Or ST 3 Oh St 1 Conf record 4--5-0
Or St physically crushed OS 21 fouls
Now you know why the B10 doesn't get much respect.
5:53
Try a warm glass of milk and get a good nites sleep. You'll feel a lot better in the AM.
Gotta keep recruiting those Bangu players thou!!
7:32 - you are right. they should start focusing on the Coon Rapids, SCV, Prior Lake, etc... kids.
First round observations....
Power conferences still rule.
From last Tuesday
"power conferences rule....
Pac 10 - 8 out of 10 teams
ACC - 8 out of 11 teams
Big East - 7 teams
SEC - 6 teams
that's 45% of the field in 4 conferences and i believe there are 34 at-large bids so that's almost 75% of the at-large bids going to these four conferences."
Now down to 32 teams and 21 are from 4 conferences or 66% of the remaining field (up from 45%). ACC & P10 with 6, SEC with 5, and BE with 4.
Watched the MSU vs. Santa Clara and Ohio State vs. Oregon State games. Let's just say the Big 10's got a way to go.
Conclusions.......I don't know, going out on a limb here, could it be warmer year round weather, larger population bases, better all year training and competition. Just a wild guess.
9:28...i think the point was recruiting from only MTA/Bangu...is not going to get GGs what they need...MDW needs to expand her view whether that is inside or outside the state....I agree that not all talent lies at MTA.....before you start with my DD not being good enough...she graduated from college already
So here's how the teams, that got at large bids over Minnesota, ended up in the first round.
Last Unoffical RPI-Team-(NCAA Result)
38-Minnesota (NO BID)
39-Rutgers (Beat Duke)
40-St Johns (Lost Virginia)
42-Michigan State (Lost Santa Clara)
43-San Diego (Lost San Diego State)
44-Villanova (Lost Washington State)
46-Duke (Lost Rutgers)
10:21 - 9:26 here. Just a little tongue in cheek...
I agree with you but IMO MDW's got a tough sell ahead of her. In looking at the tournament results it looks like she's not alone. Except for maybe PSU, just about every other coach in the Big 10 is in the same boat. How to get big time players up here (and as I've mentioned before not just kids from CA, Fl, TX, etc... but kids from those states with accomplishments).
so socmom, except for when the two at-large teams played each other (Rutgers vs. Duke - what kind of 1st round match up is that), they all lost?
Do you know the rankings of Ohio State and Oregon State? Unless OSU had a bad night, they got drilled AT HOME by the Beavers. The score was 3-1, but OSU's only goal came on an own goal.
Never quite sure about how accurate the soccer RPI's are but nothing else to go off of.
The one thing that separates the soccer field of 64 and basketball's March Madness is they only seed the top 16 teams. That's why you end up with matches like Duke/Rutgers (RPI's of #39 & #46) and Oregon State/Ohio State (RPI's of #12 & #19) in the first round. Either that or they don't pay as much attention to the RPI's as we think they do (or claim to). Most likely it's to cut down on travel expenses since women's soccer is not a profit generating sport.
Cutting down expenses??? USC to WI, Oregon to Ohio State. I do know that one rule is, same conference teams cannot play each other in rounds 1 n 2.
Anon 10:21
From the looks of it...
MDW may need to start looking elsewhere to recruit.
There may not be an MTA much longer.
What a mess the Thunder have created.
http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/
"BREAKING NEWS – New USL-1 Franchise to Replace Minnesota Thunder"
Good point, but they do regionalize things to a much greater degree. Look at the UNC regional bracket. Except for Washington State, Villanova, & Rutgers, the other 13 teams are all very close to each other (and even the trips for Villanova & Rutgers were much, much shorter than the GG's traveling to Ohio State).
socmom - the Thunder professional team and MTA are two separate entities. Worse case they'll just change their name or go back to Bangu, Wings, or whatever they want to call themselves.
Last night was further evidence why big ten soccer is so poorly regarded.
The problem is Maturi. He keeps hiring people who are in over their heads. Both MDW and Brewster are a perfect example. Mdw had the one miracle year and Brewster is just another cheerleader.
Gophers look pathetic vs SD ST. The U belongs in the MIAC.
Build a stadium on campus and they will come. NOT
not sure if you are right, but there are so many folks who have this belief that the UofM is this huge pillar of all things incredible. why would anyone not want to go there. how could any local kid want to leave. nothing wrong with home town pride but reality check please.
NCAA
UCF shouldn't have too much trouble with WI. WI does have outstanding coach.
Penn St should beat Virginia. But then they play UCLA .This will give you a comparison of conference champions.
Expect Big Ten to go 3 wins & 5 loses.
Agree with the article in Sat Red Star sports page......why import a bunch of losers...rather give scholarships to local kids. Can't do any worse.
UCLA did not win the Pac 10.
What about those UMD Bulldogs!
or as they sometimes refer to themselves as Bitches in Heat
Good luck in second round tomorrow in Denver if they don't get snowed on.
Go Claire and Kelly!
West Fla and ST Rose would both be first division teams in the Big Ten this year. They would give Penn State all they could handle and possibly pull the upset. Many of their players would help make the GGs title contenders. Maybe the boosters could finagle a few transfers.
5:10 - what teams are these?
One in and 15 to go. Stanford knocks off BYU 2-0.
5:10 - yea right. Very good DII teams, but get real. Look at their schedules.
Looks like the GG's landed their first 2011. Local MTA girl (shock-surprise). She's an excellent player and hopefully will be able to contribute down the road.
Wow. PSU gives up 6 goals in a 28 minute span of second half to lose 6-2.
If anyone ever wondered where the best soccer was played this year you don't have to guess anymore.
ACC - 8 teams in the tournament.
7 TEAMS INTO THE SWEET 16.
WI wins over UCF 1-0. On to the Sweet 16.
Congrats to WI and good luck next weekend. Anyone know how they got to be the host for the weekend? Virtually every other seeded team got to play host except Florida which had to travel to Ohio and UCF which had to travel to WI. The only exceptions was when the NCAA awarded host sites to Ohio State and WI (too unseeded teams).
The Wilkins factor, just like what Alvrez did to Gopher football and what Ryan did to BB.
Saw that GG were all set to host it at home if they had made it in. Was that true as well? Even had ticket sales all set.
14/11/09 12;32 P.M..... WRONG AGAIN.... Got back from Wisconsin NCCA tournament games, Badger team of four freshmen and 5 sophmores starters manhandled a very good UCF team.. Woodbury alum Senior defender played solid game. Vast team improvement from Tennessee loss in match played in Minneapolis earlier this fall. Friday game with ASU could have went either way. Badger GK played possessed with ice in her veins. Stopped two shoot out shots. Right about coach and coaching staff.
WI is a program on the rise. They took the top 2010 recruit in MN this year and it won't be the last time.
Gopher fans, why would anyone think that Wilklins and ??Farmer won't repeat at WI what they've already done at PSU? Back to the desert GG's.
Just because WI is better now doesn't mean it is bad for the Gophers. It actually helps them in some ways. Good for WI for getting to the sweet 16. somebody had to show up for the Big Ten.
Gophers have still beat them 5 of the last 6 years and now that both of them are good, it will create some great rivalries.
I believe Minnesota and Wisconsin will be travel partners for next year in the Big ten conference games. This helps both teams.
Every year the stars kind of align for a team or two. Last year Illinois made it to the Sweet 16 - this year they only won two league games. The GG's had a great year with many timely wins and got to play at home in the opening rounds and made it to the Sweet 16. This year, WI ended up with a significant home field advantage with warm weather teams traveling from AZ & FL. The Badgers were losing 3-2 in the shootout, but won 4-3 when the last two ASU shooters missed. Give them all the credit in the world.
Except for the real cream of the crop in women's college soccer, most games seem to be decided by a goal. The GG's played 10 Big 10 league games. EVERY single game ended up either tied or with a ONE goal differential. A bounce here, a foul/free kick here, a missed opportuntiy there, and that can be the difference between a really good year and a disappointing one.
I agree with 8:23 in that both programs will provide a great rivalry in the future years.
WI...Farmer is from Canada and has many contacts up there. That sure helps in the recruiting. Look at what MI is doing, they are recruiting from everywhere.
MI can recruit from wherever they want. They have an abysmal style of soccer that I'm not sure Mia Hamm could have helped out with in her prime.
Glad to hear everyone is stepping up their recruiting games. It would be nice to see the Big Ten improve their NCAA resume. They had a much better with RPI and scheduling this year and took down some good teams. But they had a poor showing in the NCAA's.
The Gophers will be right back in the mix again next year and hopefully leave zero doubt in anyone's minds as to who should get NCAA nods. Purdue's representation was a joke.
WI will never be able to accomplish what PSU did for many reasons (one of them NOT being effort by the coaching staff).
The recruting base is so much smaller than PSU. PSU pulls not only from the midwest, but the entire eastern seaboard. WI will take a step ahead due to the better staff, but I doubt they will ever turn into a true "elite" national program. Much like MN, just too many obstacles to overcome.
Into the Sweet 16 observations.....
12 of the 16 seeded teams advanced.
QUANTITY & QUALITY
ACC - 8 teams selected, 7 made the Sweet 16. Unreal.
QUANTITY & some QUALITY
PAC 10 - 8 teams selected, 3 made it into the Sweet 16 (if anyone saw Oregon State dismantle Ohio State in Columbus on Friday then no shock that the Beavers took out Florida). PAC 10 also went 3-0 against the SEC.
QUALITY but not much QUANTITY
WCC - 2 of their 3 teams made it into the Sweet 16 (Portland & Santa Clara)
QUANTITY but not much QUALITY
Big East - 7 teams selected, only one made it into the Sweet 16 (Notre Dame)
SouthEast - 6 teams selected, only one made it into the Sweet 16 (South Carolina)
Big 10 - 5 teams selected, only one made it into the Sweet 16 (WI)
When the dust settles, as is usually the case with NCAA women's soccer, I would not be shocked if it's a PAC 10 vs. ACC final four showdown of Stanford, UCLA, UNC, FSU.
I can see Notre Dame taking down FSU, however, they will have to do it at FSU. If this happens, it will be the same schools from last yrs final 4. Howver, UCLA v Stanford in one bracket and ND v UNC in the other. This could come down to this, with UNC beating ND and Stanford beating UCLA during season. Its hard to beat a team twice??
it would only be fitting if the top team from the 2 top conferences squared off for the title.
MN / WI rivalry. They will travel together a few times. The losers must carry the winners luggage.
Unfortunately, the lack of success by the big ten this year likely will mean a smaller # of big ten teams getting their invitation next year. I expect 3, or at most 4, big ten teams to be invited next year.
4:48 - could be right. I think it will all depend on how they do in their non-conference play. Win games against top notch competition and everything else will take care of itself. The other question is if they don't take 4-5 Big 10's, where else are they going to take them from? They are already taking 8 schools from the Pac 10/ACC, 7 schools from the SEC/Big East, etc... I could see them adding teams from the West Coast and maybe Big 12.
Big 12 down this year, but how does Missouri not make it in?
The Badger coach love on this blog is bordering (pun intended) on ludicrous. She may indeed build a program there, or if she is that great she may leave, since the Big 10 is so mediocre according to most people that write here. The Badgers won 1/2 of their starts in the mediocre Big Ten - not exactly dynasty material. She can coach ties well. Whoop-de-doo.
10:36 someone getting under your skin? Fact is. PW is coming into Minn. to take who she wants. Who wouldn't want to play for her?
Didn't the GGs beat Wisconsin this year? And now Wisconsin is in Sweet 16?
PW has improved the program (much like MDW it had nowhere eles to go but up). The ball bounced their way a bit this year (kind of like the GG's last year) and was fortunate to host the first round games with an overrated seeded team (sounds familiar to MN last year).
Congrats to them this year, hopefully they can sustain it (the measure of a real program - kudos to MDW) and everyone don't let the WI parent get under your skin.
is Inside MN soccer having server/web issues (or is it just me)?
PW has said, that after PSU, there were only 2 other campus's she would want to move to, WI and Portland. I dont think UP is going to open up any time soon.
I see on BS spreadsheet, that the 2011 kid from Iowa MN was recruiting committed to ISU.
Good luck to the young lady and hopefully she can help out ISU. They seem to be on the right track but have a long way to go (when you go 2-8 in league play-and that was improvement from the previous year).
I get a server error when trying to log onto insidesoccerminn.
Wilkins era at Wisconsin
25-25-8 overall
10-16-4 Big Ten
MDW same period
43-17-5 overall
18-10-2 Big Ten
Compare apples to apples. MDW in her 6th year of rebuilding and Wilkins in her 3rd. Sweet 16 after 5th yr for MDW and after 3rd year for Wilkins.
it's obvious someone's either currently gotta a kid, gonna have a kid in 2010 or 2011, or hopes to have a kid sometime in the near future playing at WI.
It's obvious someone (s) has a kid at MN that they're all of a sudden so interested in WI just because they suddenly appear to be competition after years of not being in the running. No kid there or going there. Not one going to Iowa either but they're on the upswing as well. So is Iowa State in the Big 12. Programs change.
17/11/09 8;58 P.M. dont know what planet you got those figures from but these are from both schools web sites. MDW first 3 years 25-27-4 overall 9-20-1 conference. PW very similiar 26-23-7 overall and 10-16-4. MDW 6 year total 68-43-9 overall and 27-30-3 conference. Both coaches built programs up but PW took on more challenging schedule in third year with squad of freshman and sophmores. MDW gotten alot from just local recruits but true test comes in two years with large senior class graduating in 2011. ALOT riding on recruiting 2011 class of gophers from local talent base.
There are no CS's or KK's in 2011. Good luck to the Gophs though.
2010 - two RII ODP players and one with US GNT experience
2011 - eight RII ODP players and one with US GNT experience
you are correct in that none of them have the same initials as CS or KK.....
IOWA
2009 1-9-0 in Big 10
2008 3-6-1 in Big 10
IOWA STATE
2009 2-8-0 in Big 12
2008 0-8-2 in Big 12
ISU had no where to go but up, if Iowa is on the upswing then I would hate to think what you might call a downswing. The Big 12 is not a very strong conference so I could see ISU moving up the pecking order. If what everone says here is true and all the Big 10 schools are stepping up their recruiting, then IMO Iowa will most likely just be treading water in the future.
Iowa will not be a threat in the Big-10 in any time in the future, they are like MN in a way, only recruiting mostly Iowa kids. And they arent going to win with just Iowa kids. Sure, Rainey has a few players from outside the state, but are they difference makers?? Dont think so. Teams will be looking at Penn State with the likes of Haley Brock and the player from Jersey, 2 horses. Thing with Penn State, they are loosing the all pro keeper. Iowa lost a few players to UCLA in Cline and Sharp, and he lost Fuller going to Ohio State. Iowa is having the same problem as MN, they loose the more elite players to out of state schools.
What folks don't always realize is that:
Penn State is as close to Boston, MA as Minneapolis is to Chicago.
Penn State is as close to NYC as Minneapolis is to Des Moines, IA or Madison, WI.
Kind of gives the words "local recruiting kids" a whole new meaning.
comparing the Iowa and Minnesota soccer programs is really hilarious. Iowa has been really bad for a really long time. Rainey is a good coach, but they are really going to struggle in the Big Ten for quite awhile. They were holding a lot of stock in this season being their NCAA season.
comparing the Iowa and Minnesota soccer programs is really hilarious. Iowa has been really bad for a really long time. Rainey is a good coach, but they are really going to struggle in the Big Ten for quite awhile. They were holding a lot of stock in this season being their NCAA season.
2011 is actually going to be a strong recruiting class. Plus the eight girls you mentioned, there are 3-4 more to add to that list. It's the 2012 class that will drop off dramatically.
Most of the 2011s were schooled by Inferno in an early scrimmage. They may improve this year while training together (finally), but the GGs will need outside help to compete for a title in the B10.
2011 MN girls is considerably weaker than the 2012s from MTA Blue.
A lot of these schools recruit on name only...ala Penn State. Rutgers is close to NY and Boston as well, they arent doing as well as Penn State are they?? So is Boston U, are they doing what PSU is doing?? NOPE. Another reason WI will do well, is because of the coach. Kids want to go to a proven winner. PSU is a proven winner, PW is a proven winner. Do you think UNC has to go out and recruit as hard as MDW?? NOPE, kids come to them. That is the difference in alot of programs. Maybe that is why the kid from MN that will be attending FSU next yr is doing what she is doing?? Going to a proven winner??? If MN could win the Big-10 in back to back yrs, then she would be getting looks from kids that are not from the area. hey, something exciting is happening up at MN. But till that happens, it will be the same ole same ole. Lets look at WVU. They had a great back to back yrs (not so good this yr). Alot of good 09s went to WVU. Lets see what the coach can do with them now. Another great example, Nebraska in its heyday, was a stud team. Guess what, Coach Walker was recruiting the heck out of canada. Now, alot more D1 programs are going north of the boarder. And now Coach Walker isnt getting the players he once did from up there.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single coach in any college sport who was able to achieve beyond what they had already achieved by their fifth year.
The first four - five years they are instilling their system and recruiting their players. By the fifth year both are pretty much in place, and the program usually stays at about that level (given some year to year flucuations).
So my question is, am I wrong? Is there a coach you can name who didn't really take their team to the next level until, say, year 10?
As an example, think of Glen Mason, by his fifth year he had the gopher football team in a low level bowl game. His teams never really made it past that level, however, and he was asked to leave.
11:25 - wasn't there, but let's see.....a team that is a year older, has played together for 4+ years, many of them also play HS together vs. a team that is a year younger with 3 practices under their belt with a new coach. If they hadn't of schooled them I would have been very worried about the Inferno. Also, the 2011 class is divided amongst roughly 4 teams (MTA U17, EP, Wayzata, and MTA U16), as compared to the Inferno which has virtually every top 2010 in the state. Much more depth at 2011. The 2012 class is much like the 2010's where almost all the top kids were consolidated onto the MTA U16 teams a few years ago.
12:45 - name one 2012 with any current recognition above and beyond MN ODP?
12:51
Here are the TUITION ONLY numbers for Penn State, Rutgers, and Boston U.
Of course, if you are a PA or NJ resident, your tuition is even lower at those state institutions.
(And, it’s possible both PSU and Rutgers offer reciprocity with neighboring states)
I guess it's not too surprising PSU can recruit over the other two schools in question.
Add the Nittany Lions championship soccer tradition and you have an easier sell IMHO.
Penn State $12,567 (Non Resident)
Rutgers $20,456 (Non Resident)
Boston University $37,910 (Private)
I'm assuming, of course, not every recruited player is on a "full ride" and therefore has to consider the cost of college.
I think we should all give WI a wee bit more time to convince us that they are this upper echelon program. Illinois made the Sweet 16 last year and this year finished near the basement. WI was a team that won half of their conference games, was fortunate to win a shootout, and then granted did handily beat IMO a completely over-rated UCF team. Has PW done a nice job at turning things around - yes, definitely, just like MDW.
One good year does not confirm a program as "arrived" let alone be considered as elite.
emphasis on "good" year, not "great" year
Give PW 20 players from the state of WI and see if she can win a big 10 title.
1:26 - excellent points.
2:06 - not sure the point of your post as MN is not obligated to only field MN players.
1:26...Ok how about UConn then?? Big-east with alot of winning history. And while your at it, Maryland in the ACC. ?? They are fighting for the same playes as Maryland and UConn, and BC. Penn State recruits itself. Proven winner, I want to go play for a winner. Not a program that is in the middle of the pack. I can stay closer to home for that. And that is what is happening here at MN
and why WI will always be WI......
same as MN. no tradition, crummy weather, far from home. You are absolutely correct 2:46 in why the top recruits pick the Penn State's and UNC's of the world instead of the MN's and WI's.
Let's just say for instance - MINNESOTA wins the College Cup and brings home a national title. I'm not saying this is going to happen. Just saying what if?
If that happened, there would still be criticism - got lucky, one time deal, can't maintain it, top recruits won't keep coming here, etc. etc.
It is the nature of sports, especially soccer. There are some that are always going to question and critique. It's just the way it is.
If a player is picking the school ONLY for soccer as their first priority, let's hope the stars align to make the rest of it a fit for 4+ years for the STUDENT...distance from home, academics, campus life, other sport venues, tradition, etc., etc. None of us will EVER truly know why a given athlete chose one school over another unless you are their parents.
or more importantly the student-athlete.
3:07..So your telling me all those players that go to Memphis to play BB, they are going there to become Lawyers?? GOT IT!!
Whats wrong with a player going to a top notch program? No matter where a player goes, you get what you put into it. A player going to FSU mite come out with a degree in basketweaving, and a player from MN mite go onto becoming the next Neil Armstrong. OR, it can be reversed. I know of a couple GG's majoring in Soccer.
I just read on another thread that there are a few mn kids that left the state to go play for WI-GB and they are coming home. ?? Couldnt handle it?? Not what you thought it would be, by saying, it really is work M-F. Alot of study involved to be able to play?
I would think, players going to Stanford, ND, UCLA, UNC are all getting a great education. On top of having played for a outstanding soccer program. I dont think there is ANYTHING wrong with a player wanting to play for a elite program.
There is nothing wrong with choosing any school. You can pick the best soccer program you are recruited to, the best academic school, or some combination thereof. To each their own.
too much talk about a topic that doesn't really pertain to MN soccer. big time recruiting, elite programs, blah, blah, blah.
by the way 3:51, your second and last paragraphs completely contradict each other. for all we know there are kids going to the schools you mentioned majoring in soccer and there could be kids from WI-GB who might end up being astronauts.
Of note today...
"Gopher Graduation Rates Leap Forward"
Make of it what you will....
http://www.gophersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8400&ATCLID=204836073
Mite? Are we talking hockey? Correct spelling really does make a difference when trying to argue a point. Maybe you can try ALL CAPS...the bloggers yelling. Just like they do on the news shows. The who yells the loudest is the smartest.
The main difference in MDW and PW? PW has a track record of success as a head coach. MDW came from a weak Mizzou.
Like I said before, give PW 20 players from WI and see if she can win a big 10 title, I don't think so.
MDW wasn't a head coach at Missouri so she didn't have a track record as a head coach.
Comparing their resumes is stupid. They have both done well. PW is quite a bit older with more years under her belt.
PW was given a head coaching position in a program that already had huge success and tradition.
MDW wasn't.
Comparing the two isn't apples to apples.
Lou Holtz turned the football program around in a heartbeat. Then he bailed for the Irish. Could you blame him.
PW is the head coach at WI. Anything done at PSU is totally irrelevant, it is a different situation with a different recruiting base. PSU remains the top program in the Big Ten three years after she has gone, and they are still getting top recruits.
If WI takes another step forward in 2010, and MN does not, then the WI lover will have something to justify all the plaudits in comparing WI and MN. Otherwise, MDW and MN is the better program.
hey 8:17, based on Lou Holtz's accomplishments I guess it's about time for MDW to go to ND.
The "Holtz" mystique........
inherited a program that went 1-10 the previous year.
Went 4-7 in his first year (3-6 in the Big 10).
Went 7-5 in his second year (.500 in the Big 10). He only won 6 of those games as he had already left before the bowl game.
This is the Mighty Lou Holtz's record at MN. From listening to the lore about him you would thought he had won the Rose Bowl. He won 7 Big 10 games and lost 10. His overall record was 10-12.
He never won the Big 10 (MDW has).
Never won a post-season/bowl game (the GG's went to the Sweet 16 last year losing to the eventual national runner ups in OT).
Based on what Lou Holtz actually accomplished at MN we should be giving MDW a contract extension. The funny thing is if MDW actually did go to ND, the Fighting Irish would still be a top 10 if not top 5 program every year.
O gosh, I went to the U. Thta is how I was taught to spell. And use grammar.
i still want to know the story about lou holtz leaving arkansas...? like the cowboys used to say, 'it's quiet out there...too quiet'.
i'm surprised mdw hasn't been named 'soccer czar' by bho.
ems
why is 8:23 an idiot? I would bet that most folks (myself included) agree in most part or entirely with the statement (I guess that makes us all idiots). You kind of remind me of the one soldier marching out of step with his entire platoon who's yelling at all the other soldiers to get in step with him.....
Why does someone with a different opinion than yours have to be called an idiot?
EW (psu women's head coach) had experience at 2 different ivy league schools prior to taking the helm at psu. she continues to coach in some capacity with our national teams...that experience & knowledge (and the fact that psu 'didn't suck' before PW left) probably has contributed to the ongoing success at psu as much as anything. so wisc gets a succesful head coach, psu replaces her with a succesful head coach, and mn takes an asst from mizzou who recruits using the #6 mtc bus. hope is on the horizon...the northstar line is up and running! big lake athletes, start stretching!
ems
succesSful.
bonehead!
ems
Why did PW leave PSU?
It's possible that PW's most profound coaching experience came as she assisted, for seven years, then head coach Patrick Farmer as he built the PSU program from scratch.
Farmer is an amazing guy. Wilkins would tell you that he is an unbelievable mentor. These two will build a national power at UW, despite some of your forecasts of the inability to recruit to a northern clime. Not to mention that Rosenfeld can recruit in Canada, where he's wired to their youth program. Wilkins wanted a challenge by moving to Wisconsin, she got it, and she will answer it.
See 8:23 from yesterday. Talk is cheap from the one or maybe two PW worshippers here (wonder if they face Madison five times a day, bow and pray). Only time will tell.
How do you make this argument?
Paula Wilkens is going to build an empire
She is stealing all the players from Minnesota...they are all jumping up and running for the border
Wisconsin is going to be unbelievable, Paula Wilkens has to be one of the greatest coaches ever.
Minnesota is recruiting in state players
They are going to always suck
They have just gotten lucky
Same people making the same arguments that keep contradicting themselves.
EMS is like the character from the Peanuts
"Wah Wuh Wuh Wuh Waaauh, Wuh Waah Waah Wuh"
Just keep gurgling dude
Maybe, just maybe she can coach!
Whether the people posting here are MDW fans or PW fans....WHY all the ripping on both of them? Pretty immature. And likewise, from fans of both, WHY all the boasting? The programs and schools and the campus environment are what they are. Different strokes for different folks. Programs that are not historically elite will always rise a bit..fall a bit. It's nice kids have options.
So likewise it is actually MDW fan, as in singular. as in prolific. Do you really think the only people that post on this blog are from Minnesota? Small world you live in.
methinks 7:21 pretty much confirmed 7:14's post.
methinks just like Pavlov's dog he will respond to this.
Speaking from Experience...During visit to MadTown, was able to attend a football game at Camp Randall, had a great time. During Visit to MN, ah, walked the campus, watched a soccer game (that we have seen many times before), had 1 on 1 time with All WI Coaches, had 1 on 1 time with MDW. Spent night with WI teammate, went home after visit at MN.
So watching a soccer game was a bad thing to do?
Wow
you are a soccer recruit, no?
On my official visit (not a big ten school), I spent the night with a player and had an absolutely terrible time with them, a nightmare in fact. - crazy party, etc.
Still chose the school - there was much more to my personal decision than how fun (or not fun) that one night was on my visit.
don't know why you weren't at a Gopher football game but I know the gopher soccer team and coaching staff hosted dozens of recruits at football games this year.
I think 8:39's recruiting visit comparison makes a valid point.
Some would say there really isn't a huge difference between WI and MN soccer programs, location, academics, cost, etc.
It may come down to the "extras" or "personal touch" on a recruiting visit.
Coaches are in the business of selling themselves, the team, the university, and the soccer program.
It's not a stretch to think some coaches are better at the above than others.
Hopefully kids (and parents) aren't choosing a college - arguably 4-5 (in my case 6) of the most important years of their lives on how much of the coaching staff they met or whether they spent the night with the team.
If so, then it would appear that soccer is their #1 priority in choosing a school. Not sure that's a great idea.
I like the Peanuts gang AND EMS! A spade is a spade.
What makes you "think" EMS is a dude? Some of the writings are very sensitive and thoughful. Almost poetic.
Early Morning Sage is a Dude
wah wuh wuh wuh wah
a very crabby, very angry, very bitter dude.
one who sticks and moves, dodges and hides.
No, Im not a recruit, but I am a parent that made a visit. And others as well.
I also think soccer is a big part of some of these players lives. Most of them have spent the last 7 yrs busting ars to get to the level they are at. Some, but not all, want to play with and against the best they can. What is wrong with this?? jealously?? Its ok to spend thousands of dollars during club only for your child to decide to go to a community college, but its also ok if your daughter wants to attend Notre Dame, FSU and the likes. And yes, what is wrong with picking a school for soccer 1st?? 9:41, why shouldnt it be a priorty?? You say you have 6 kids, ah, good for you, Im sure you can retire early then huh?? So, your saying your kids didnt spend the night on recruiting visits?? No big deal, but, it is a big deal for some, to see if they are going to bond with a team and players. Coach ask the players next day how the recruit fit, that sort of thing. But, your above all that Im sure. I spent 10K on club, Im ok with my kid picking Deluth Community College.
Oh yea, one more thing. How would you like to be a coach with hundreds of recruits coming to your school to look. Are you as a coach suppose to spend the same time with a recruit you know nothing about?? Nope. Just the way things are I guess. Is this player recruiting the school or the other way??
2:05 - since you seem keen on math - let's take a look at the math which doesn't get talked about much but ends up being a determining factor for most.
Let's say tuition, fees, books, and lodging is 15,000 at both WI and MN. I know this isn't exactly correct, but just for the sake of analysis and an apples to apples comparison.
One school offers your daughter 60% and one offers her 100%.
So at 40% of 15K - you are going to need to come up with an extra 6,000 over each year for a total of 24,000. Put a present value on that over a 10/20/30 year with a conservative 6% return and you are looking at
43/80/144K
I'm not saying Wisconsin/Minnesota offered you 60 and 100%. But what I am saying is that a 1 hour meeting with an assistant coach is nice, a trip to a football game is great, eating skittles and staying up all night with a player in the dorms is awesome, but if the decision is a close one - and I imagine it is for many between the two schools (or decisions between two other similar schools) - money comes into play more than most are willing to admit.
It adds up quickly when you look at the math
agree there is nothing wrong with soccer being a key component of the decision making process.
do not agree it should be the #1 priority (i tend to prefer the academic component).
agree that there is nothing wrong with leveraging one's soccer abilities to get a scholarship which A) might be the only way to financially go to college, B) get into a college that you might not be able to normally get into, or C) save a bunch of money.
some kids go to college to get educated, some kids go to play soccer, some are able to do both. to each their own - that's what makes this a great country.
How many scholarships does MDW get for her team?
D1 teams get 14 full scholarships. How the schools divide them up is up to them. It varies every year how many/much is available (based on who is graduating) and when combined with what their roster needs are (GK, defenders, MF, F) makes the recruiting process not only challenging for the schools but just as much for the potential recruits. A family might love a school and their child might be easily good enough to play there, but if that school only has 2-3 scholarships available and your kids a defender and they are set at defense from the prior two years, then the fits not there (unless as a walk-on). It's all about finding the right fit.
For example...if the GGS get 14 scholarships and there are 18 players on the roster that is a really good deal for the players.That should attract plenty of good players.
BC beat WI 1-0. That's the end for the Big Ten for this year.Better luck next year.
8:10 - not sure what you mean? What it most likely means is very few kids are getting full rides (100%) or they may be for the first year and then see their percentage shrink over the following years. Or it could mean that a lot of kids are getting a lot and many kids are getting very little. There could also be red-shirt players who are on scholarship but are not showing up on the roster. You never really know.
Congrats to WI on a great season and being the Big 10 "ambassador" into the Sweet 16. Gave it all they had, but just couldn't keep up with BC (WI outshot 3-1). Good luck and good health to all their players (especially the seniors!).
4 of the 8 Sweet 16 games completed and there are 3 ACC teams and ND still standing (ND wins a tough battle with Oregon State).
Stanford and Santa Clara 0-0 30 mins in. 16 fouls in first 30 mins. wow
7 of the 8 Sweet 16 games either done or decided.
One game tomorrow - UNC #1 seed vs. Maryland #4 seed. Both from ACC.
As it stands........
ACC - 3 in plus one tomorrow so 50% of the elite 8 will be from the ACC
Pac 10 - 2 teams in (Stanford/UCLA)
WCC - one team (Portland)
Big East - one team (ND)
All the #1 seeds have advanced so far
3 of the four #2 seeds have advanced so far. Only Wake Forest as a #3 cracked the top seeding.
No Cinderella's, nothing but 900lb guerillas.
Shaping up to be a true west coast vs. east final four and championship - should be a lot of fun.
Go Stanford !
Stanford/Santa Clara...29 fouls in the game. Is this typical?
Never bring a potential recruit to a Gophers football game.The kid will probably barf. How did Maturi ever get his job? His hires are stinkers.
Only one OT game yesterday with FSU scoring in 108'th minute to beat Texas A&M. Games should start to tighten up the rest of the way.
11:56 - all depends on how tight the officiating is. Don't forget that the New Mexico girl that made the news only ended up with a yellow card. Are there at least 29 fouls in a normal women's college soccer game - easy. Do they always get called? The GG's played 20 games and in looking at their stats there was a total of 316 fouls called in those games. That's an average of roughly 16.
UNC over Maryland 1-0 for the last Elite 8 slot.
All 4 #1 seeds through
3 of the 4 #2 seeds through
Only 1 #3 seed through (Wake Forest)
If you look at the final RPI rankings, 7 of the top 8 teams made the Elite 8 with only Wake Forest who was #11 in the final RPI as the exception.
In soccer being the higher seed also pretty much guarantees you the home field which can be a big advantage.
Regarding fouls....
Here's how MN ranked during Big Ten only play.
Wisconsin.....137
Purdue........111
Ohio State....104
Illinois.......93
Penn State.....93
Michigan State.93
Northwestern...92
Michigan.......91
Iowa...........90
Indiana........81
Minnesota......78
looks like the average Big 10 game had roughly 18-19 or so fouls.
2 in, 2 still to go.
ND (#2 seed) beats FSU (#1 seed) in Tallahassee 2-0. Fairly tight game but ND more dangerous and found ways to finish.
UNC (#1 seed) blasts Wake Forest (#3 seed - only school left not a #1 or #2) 5-2 in Raleigh. UNC up 3-0 at half, then up 5-1 before coasting home.
Two great games remaining with Stanford-BC playing tonight in the bay area and then UCLA-Portland tomorrow down in LA.
Go Stanford !!!
Big Soccer showing another 2011 verbal for Minnesota.
Thirteen Lady Gophers earned All Big Ten Academic Honors.
Here's the list with majors.
Nice to see athletes excelling on and off the field.
Katie Bethke, Jr., Chemistry
Sara Clancy, Sr., Elementary Education
Jennie Clark, Jr., Communications
Shari Eckstrom, So., Business Marketing Education
Kylie Kallman, Jr., Marketing & Operations Management
Angela Olson, Jr., Kinesiology
Cat Parkhill, So., Entrepreneurial Management
Julie Rezac, Jr., Health & Wellness
Molly Rouse, Jr., Early Elementary Education
Katie Shelander,, Jr. Speech Language Hearing Sciences
Josie Solie, So., Undeclared
Tamara Strahota, So., Undeclared
Dana Tripp, Sr., Journalism
Congrats to the Gopher ladies for their academic success as well as giving us some good soccer the past few years.
Stanford 2 UCLA 1
Even game. Niether team looked over powering. Gophers have better goaltending. If Gophers had one or two players like Hof from MS they could play with either of these teams. The key is recruiting....
lol - one or two players? Other than Parkhill, I bet few of the GG's would even start on those teams. Is this Sid blogging again?
Let's see here....
PSU got drilled by VA which then go drilled by UCLA
WI got throttled by BC (1-0 final not indicative of 3-1 BC shot advantage) and BC got drilled by Stanford
What makes you think that the Gophers only need one or two players (being that they did not even GET INVITED to the tournament)?
You really can't make this stuff up....
GGs aren't even close to being on the same level as Stanford. Not just because of players, but their style of play.
NC 1 Stanford 0
Boring game. Two mediocre teams.
Soccoer going downhill in good ol USA
so if these two teams are mediocre, then what do we call the GG's?
Oops, the dratted direct style of play beats pretty possession (again).
Speed kills.
And while soccoer may be going downhill, the soccer in the good ol USA is improving every year.
Anon 2:14
Those are strong words.
I'm just guessing you don't watch much women’s college soccer.
To what are you comparing?
However, it was a disappointing game from a Stanford fan’s POV.
But that’s the way it goes and AD and UNC win again.
BTW, I bet MDW would welcome any of the players from either “mediocre” team.
Maturi getting heat to reduce cost of all non revenue sports.Cross your fingers.
soccer is totally fine....would be one of the last possible sports to go for any university. Title IX is a federal law and requires equal # of scholarships for men/women. As long football is around, soccer will be there as well. Football is a huge chunk of scholarships so it takes quite a few women's sports to equal the # used in football.
The athletic department had a huge deficit in its budget 7-9 years ago and discussed cutting a few sports such as golf. Soccer wasn't on the chopping block then and won't be anywhere in the future as long as football is around.
Soccer will be fine. MDW was just down in Texas at the ECNL tournament scouting.
And good luck recruiting from the states represented at ECNL Final Four Showcase.
Although, maybe MDW can nab a WI player.
(FC Milwaukee didn't have a bad showing).
Here's how the attending clubs broke down by USYS Region / State.
(Obviously, more than one club came from some of the states).
R1 - CT, MA, MD, NJ, NY, PA, VA
R2 - IL, MN, MO, OH, WI
R3 - AL, GA, NC, SC, TX
R4 - AZ, CA, CO, NV, WA
Again, it begs the question of location.
I can't imagine a soccer kid, from any of those states, finding MN that inviting.
And with the weather in College Station that weekend (snow flurries!), the players got a taste of MN weather!
The NCAA just released it's final RPI for 2009.
This report includes all games through the end of the post season tournament.
Here's how the Big Ten teams ended up.
Looking at these, it still makes you question MN's snub.
Here's to next year...
16 Penn St.
21 Ohio St.
30 Wisconsin
36 Minnesota
39 Purdue
50 Michigan St.
52 Indiana
66 Illinois
77 Northwestern
79 Michigan
127 Iowa
http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weeklyrpi/2009WSOrpi1.html?gender=WSO&y=2009
Gophers get a GK verbal for 2011.
Is it usual for a team to have 3 GKs?
Hard not to think the CP won't be the keeper until she graduates since she is only a freshman (althogh as a redshirt she could currently academically be a sophomore).
KR -the other goalie from AV is currently a sophomore.
The incoming goalie will be a freshman when CP is a junior and KR is a senior.
Not uncommon to have three, rare to have three all on full D1's.
Scenarios could be many:
All three if feasible and not chewing up too much scholarship money.
Redshirt the 2011 so when she is plays one year later KR will have graduated.
Writing on the wall for KR (would not be the first goalie to leave MN).
Who knows.....
Most teams do have 3 on the roster so picking up a third for 1 or 2 years is totally normal. There is no writing on the wall for any of them. A GK commitment had to come in order to not be stuck with only 1 GK in the future and a lack of quality GK recruits in the pipeline.
but for the most part, 1:37 hit it on the head.
Additionally, scheduling for the national teams are not known for the future. It isn't impossible that KP might miss some time in the future during the Gopher season.
No disrespect to any player.....
When selecting a college assuming it's a good fit academically it's a good idea to check the roster. Number of players at each position and their academic year will give you a general idea of needs and depth. If the team is loaded at Def and you are a D unless you are a stud you probably won't see much PT for a couple of years. If you can live with this OK. But if you want PT you might have to check out some other teams. Do your homework. Good luck.
Anon 6:11...
Number of players on a roster seems to be more of an issue than number of players at any one position.
College coaches have a habit of putting players where the coach wants them and not necessarily where the player prefers or is strongest or most experienced.
Recruiting....
How is it that the volleyball team can recruit from all over the country and the soccer team can't?
13 on roster and 6 from..
Indiana,Canada,Calif,Col,Neb,and Fla.
Maybe MDW needs to let the Volleyball team recruit for her.
By the way the VB team playing in the final four again. Great job.
1:19 - I root for volleyball also, but uhhhhh think about it.....volleyball is played indoors.
They do have an excellent program, but comparing volleyball recruiting to soccer recruiting is COMPLETELY different.
agree 2:05 and MN has historically had strong AAU club and high school programs. The Pac 10 and Big 10 have historically also been two power VB conferences. I believe PSU recently set an unbroken match streak of over 100 games. Longer than the old UCLA basketball team back in the Coach Wooden days.
So you play a game or two a week
inside. You don't think these players ever go outside. Aren't these players here all winter. GGGs soccer is usually over by the end of Oct. You keep coming up with lame excuses for poor soccer recruiting.
you can't be serious 9:31. take a peak at the most recent ncaa college cup and the end of the year rpi's. in case you failed to notice, the whole conference did not do well (and historically has not). see any correlation or is it just a coincidence that virtually every coach at every school (with the exception of PSU) has a hard time soccer recruiting?
9:31 - collegiate soccer is a year round activity. D1 scholarship athletes train all year - it is a full time job. The season does not conclude the end of October. This isn't MN high school.
9:31 -
You must like bad drugs.
if you are comparing the recruiting to North Carolina then yes, you can use the word poor. But that isn't who the Gophers recruit against and if you take a look at who that is, it is actually really good.
You obviously are completely clueless on how recruiting works and especially how the college soccer season works.
I'll ask it again, name another team in the Big 10 who could have had 17 players from their home state and won the Big 10.
Baseball is in the same situation. They could put all their time and resources and budget into recruiting the top players in the states of Texas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, etc.....then they find out at the last minute that the scholarships they had offered to all these so called studs had been declined to go to a closer or "warmer" school. Then they end up losing out on the local talent because they had already offered out scholarships to others.
This isn't football where you can offer 3:1 on the scholarships you actually are allowed and then figure a way to back out of them at the end if everyone ends up committing.
There is much much more to it than just recruiting the top 100 players in the country. Sure they are recruited, strategically, but you still cannot lose site of what is regionally close.
Who are the new players for the Gophers next year. Scholarshiped or walk ons??
In one year anything is possible. If i do remember,the key players from that team were from bordering states. The best offensive player and midfield second team big ten were allowed to play and develop for fours years to give coach first decent season in five years. If the trend continues expect at U of Minn. weaker oppenents to be scheduled and yes all local minnesota local girls playing and even less outstate recruits coming. The California teams are all or mostly composed of California players and win conference titles all the time. But their recruiting base population is lot bigger than minnesota.
Big Soccer just posted another 2011 recruit for the Gophers.
This one's from EP.
So far, thats 2 showing for 2010 and 4 showing for 2011.
And congrats to the following current players.
It's always interesting to see how teammates view one another...
2009 Golden Gopher Soccer Team Awards
Teammate Award, Sara Clancy
12th Gopher Award, Katie Shelander
Most Improved Player, Angie Olson
Newcomer Award, Olivia Bagnall
Defensive MVP, Josie Solie
Midfield MVP, Molly Rouse
Offensive MVP, Katie Bethke
Ironwoman Award, Kylie Kallman
And better yet, KH will be playing Pro in Norway, she leaves next month. Lets give Hoody some props. Good Luck Hoody!!
Anonymous said...
In one year anything is possible. If i do remember,the key players from that team were from bordering states. The best offensive player and midfield second team big ten were allowed to play and develop for fours years to give coach first decent season in five years. If the trend continues expect at U of Minn. weaker oppenents to be scheduled and yes all local minnesota local girls playing and even less outstate recruits coming. The California teams are all or mostly composed of California players and win conference titles all the time. But their recruiting base population is lot bigger than minnesota.
16/12/09 6:54 PM
Lets break this down a little...Stanford, played with a IL girl (Eclipse) as starting outside back, another freshman starter from Texas (Texans), center back...UCLA started 2 Freshman from Iowa (SSM) and Vegas (Slammers/SoCal Blues), and another freshman first off bench was from WA (Crossfire). That is 5
players starting who were freshman from out of state on 2 of the top 4 teams in the country.
All mentioned freshman except the WA player all made the Pac-10 Freshman 1st team.
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