Classic Lake - Armstrong. Lake Conference - Apple Valley. Minneapolis City - Minneapolis Southwest. North Suburban - Totino-Grace. Northwest Suburban - Anoka. ** Update ** St. Paul City - St. Paul Como Park and/or St. Paul Central. Suburban East - Woodbury. ** Update **
** MUST WATCH ** Minneapolis South vs. Robbinsdale Armstrong - 3:00 PM at Robbinsdale Armstrong This should tell how better Armstrong comparing to Minneapolis Southwest. The Falcons need to make a strong case for #1 in Section 6AA. They better trounce the Tigers more than 3 goals. I have Falcons 4-0 Tigers.
White Bear Lake vs. Stillwater Area - 5:00 PM at Stillwater Area The Bears need to win this game to secure #2 in Section 4AA. I have Bears 2-1 Stillwater.
Elk River vs. Eden Prairie - 10:00 AM at Eden Prairie These two could possibily meet in State Tournament (if they can win their sections). I have Elks 3-2 Eagles.
This year section playoffs will be more interesting.
Section 1AA. It's a toss-up between 3 team. Section 2AA. It's a toss-up between 3 teams. Section 3AA. Apple Valley. No questions here. Section 4AA. It's a toss-up between 4 teams. Section 5AA. It's a toss-up between 4 teams. Section 6AA. Mpls SW or Armstrong. Section 7AA. Anoka. Section 8AA. Elk River.
Seedings are important so I'll get more details once section brackets are up.
Each conference has their own meeting and rank their players 1 through whatever I don't know how high. Then when figuring Mr. Soccer you must have been voted best Senior in your conference to be up for the award. As for All-State I believe it is limited to 3 players from a team which is unfortunate as im sure this year as it has been in years past some teams have more than 3 worthy of it. It just works this way for the coaches all state team though. StarTrib and PP have their own methods im sure. When figuring the All-State team though the conference rankings are used for those as well because you work your way down the ranking list for how many your conference is getting that year. That varies pending on talent Im sure.
I agree. tomASS, you're constantly adding irrelevant and pointless information to this blog which is a pain to continuously sift through to read about what this blog is actually about (soccer).
Me Xman you aren't your usual hard-nosed self with your vague predictions for sections... what does your gut tell you for those sections with 2 or 3 teams in the mix in your opinion?
600 - since when has anyone really discussed the game of soccer on this blog? What sifting? you see my name skip over it, is scrolling that difficult for you?
602- it wasn't said, it was written
659 - oh to the contrary, the fishing is so easy in here that you almost don't need bait. Who's tweaking whom?
People really shouldn't argue that apple valley isn't the best team. Its the same team that won summer state. They are the eden Prairie of last year. But Eden Prairie actually had good competition. No one can compete with Apple Valley. The question should... be who is the second best team in state? Or who can play a 6-3-1 and tie them?
1044 - how yeah very compelling soccer statements - the one to XMan is the only one of the three that has substance
1147 - I would go with a 5-2-3, have the two mids play centrally. You need more pressure up on their defense to prevent easy direct balls in. The outside backs would support the mids on the attack . Two mids would clean up the central slop. But we are splitting hairs depending on the responsibilities you assign the players in a 6-3-1. The cliche about controlling mid field is out the window when you play AV. There is little midfield play that influences their attack.
You will also need a very organized defense that does not ball watch
South was better, they have 2-3 of their top guys back from injuries from what I heard in the stands that just started playing recently. 2nd place city conf. team beat classic lake champs...that should tell you a little about the quality in the city and shows even more that SW is very deserving of the #3 ranking.
Two years in a row for South over Armstrong, which actually played better than last year (4-0). Look for these two teams to meet again Oct. 19 in 6AA semis.
South has two Westside players returning, both are very very good and one may be the most talented player I have seen. Both are also leaders which is just what south needs.
BSM has been on a downhill slide since they won state in 2006. Blew their chances in the state quarters in 2007 and not very good at all last year. Must not be recruiting as well recently, or is it that their assistant coach left for his own gig after 2007 (which only lasted a year. Parents can be brutal).
2:17 dad fred or ryan's dad, take this to MYSA section. there will be more people interested to talk ODP during HS season. this section is for HS? Let's ask the question, are these some of the best players in the region or this is a the group that showed up?
Must have been a close vote total to put Armstrong over South, who beat them yesterday. I've been in seed meetings before where the top seed was unanimous with 7 pts, next 4 were separated by a point a piece. Interesting to see how close you can be to a home game and not get it. SW has a nice home field, but South has a terrible stadium.
I guess you have two city teams that might support each-other, while the suburbs/country teams might support teams they know?
2:42, I'm curious to see how summer success translates to HS seasons. I assume bloggers in the HS section would know the most about HS soccer. Is this not HS soccer related? Are you the blog Nazi? Did your kid not make it? Are you angry about something?
Nobody's Dad, 2:17
P.S. Anyone know how those lads are doing? I don't even know who they play for.
1. Lakeville South 2. Lakeville North 3. Rochester Mayo 4. Northfield 5. Rochester Century 6. Owatonna 7. Faribault 8. Farmington 9. Rochester John Marshall
Frederick Neher - He goes by James, he is an excellent goalie. Quite a big boy, around 6'4" and 215 if iI had to guess. He plays for Mahtomedi for school ball and Black Hawks for club ball.
Ryan Goddard - He is one of the 2 Jefferson players that is on the Valley United Premier team. He is potent up front and is is the creator of the majority of Jefferson's scoring opportunities.
Brandon Wolf - Brandon also plays for the Valley United team during the summer and I believe he played up front. He was on Varsity for Rosemount his freshman, sophomore, and junior year playing as sweeper/stopper but for his senior year he switched to football because he didn't get along with Rosemount's coach. I heard that he has a verbal agreement to go to UW Milwaukee for college next year.
i believe the TopDrawer Soccer info is based off their evaluations and internal rankings. If you aren't currently in their player data pool (especially for grades 2013 and younger), i think all you might have to do is send them an email? Not sure. Most of the older graduating years listings I'm sure were compiled off of MNT, ODP, etc... info.
What are youre predictions for section winners of 1AA 2AA and 6AA, three close sections with some talent. I say toss up between Jefferson and Ep for 2AA, North for 1AA, and SW for 6AA
For 1AA I'd say Lakeville South beats Lakeville North because South has more depth and speed, North relies to much on 2 players. Also in the event they do play each other, it would be at South because they are the higher seed.
For 2AA I'd say EP over Jefferson. I think the teams are really even but EP has a better midfield.
For 6AA I'd say Armstrong. They are used to tougher competition, I don't think SW will react well aganist stronger team that they aren't able to run up the score on.
828 thanks for the input. I see where youre coming from with South of North..but I could also see it going either way. And with the armstrong loss to south, it seems that SW could come away with the section, but I think Armstrong could pull through. EP has been looking quite average, but so has Jefferson. I think it will come down to Jefferson being able to play the soccer that they know how to. Ive seen moments of great soccer, but the inconsistency is a huge issue for them. I mean a tie to Kennedy? (could be blamed on the field- it was raining, and it's the worst field in the state). I think Storlien will pull out another state birth. He could do so much more with the talent he has though.
Southwest will get beat by the winner of the Hopkins Wayzata game. Southwest however is the best team in the section. Not a strong section just 5 mediocre teams that could win it.
Section 1AA - Lakeville North Section 2AA - Jefferson I would have picked EP but it's the coach that I have a huge question. Section 3AA - Apple Valley Section 4AA - Woodbury Section 5AA - Centennial Section 6AA - Armstrong Section 7AA - Anoka Section 8AA - Elk River
Osseo has won several in a row, but they are way down. They had a kid from Vietnam on the team. Turned out he was 21. (Fresh off the boat--honest mistake) Had to forfeit 3 games.
Then the AD and coach started vetting all the players. Kicked off three more Liberians--kids that lied on their paperwork. Yow, huh? The AD there is on top of it, from what I hear. Let's not even think about last year's Osseo team...
1. Apple Valley 2. Woodbury 3. Anoka 4. Eagan 5. Minneapolis Southwest 6. White Bear Lake 7. Eden Prairie 8. Elk River 9. Edina 10. Bloomington Jefferson Others: Centennial, Park Cottage Grove
12:39 Somehwhat right on Osseo the liberians you talk about were never on the team they had academic problem. The boys last year were all legal.... But as the AD goes he know s nothing his head in hte cloud with his booster club. On another note tell me what you know about the assistant coach CH not showing up to games or practice the last 2 weeks? Thats the real news, now that team is in really big trouble without coaching
Had the chance to watch about 10 HS games this year. Including Apple Valley, Minneapolis SouthWest, Edina, Woodbury and Jefferson. Boys HS soccer is poor, very poor. Outside of AV's ability to consistently score goals, the quality of play is in the basement...nowhere but up for next year...I guess.
Instead of ragging on h.s. soccer just accept it for what it is. there are almost 200 teams in a and aa combined. As a result the talent is diluted. Quit watching games if you think it's that poor.
anon 8:00pm : do you buy your milk from Walmart, SA station or Byerlys? I get mine from Aldys. It's still milk. HS soccer is still soccer to lots of people. quit watching and you might be surprised, it will still be happening.
Can someone please explain how teams are grouped together in sections? How does a team like Hastings ever have a chance when they are grouped with schools like AV, Burnsville and Eagan. Seems to me like things are a little lopsided in the sections and definately favor the bigger suburban schools!
10:45 - Are you telling me Hastings should be in the State Tourney even if they can't beat AV, Burns and Eagan? Shouldn't the State Tournament simply be:
AV Woodbury Anoka Southwest Eagan EP Jefferson White Bear
HS Soccer is as logical as the BCS system. It's almost as though MYSA is running things.
They have a few outstate sections--and several metro sections. They tried to limit it a bit with the semi-suburb schools like Elk River or Hastings. Some poepl got tired of the same team (like ER) going to state every year while the teams in their conference beat them during the regular season. They trie to split up the major conferences into two sections where possible.
9:24 - Eastview scord Eastview didn't have much offence, they were basically relying on Benda to be a one man show up front. Eastview took a 1-0 lead around half and tried to sit on the lead. With 15 minutes left Burnsville got Zimenski, Eastviews sweeper, out of the center and was able to sneak a goal in. Then it was all down hill for Eastview and Burnsville finished 2 more mediocre goals.
In the finals (guesses): 1AA - The Lakeville's 2AA - Prior Lake Jefferson 3AA - Just Apple Valley 4AA - Woodbury Stillwater 5AA - Osseo Centennial 6AA - Southwest South 7AA - Coon Rapids Anoka 8AA - Who's in this section?
TomAss - What is more confusing: A. High School section assignments. B. MYSA district assignments and schedules.
Funny thing is: give me 5 hours and I could sort out both, for each class, for each gender, for all ages and I could make it be a thing of beauty and logic. Funnier thing is: we pay a bunch of dummies to do this stuff and I would do it for free.
Stats aren't everything...in fact, maybe not so much as much as is the player well rounded, a team player, unselfish, AND a great player. The whole package.
What....are you kidding, based on the past few years I would say it all about the hype. Postings regarding the player here, talking to coaches throughout the state about the kid. Stats do help get the coaches attention. Your coach has to be willing to sell the kid to his peers. He has to be respected by the other coaches. Your coach should hopefully be on some the sections committees so he can be sure to work hard for his players. (like Jason Jacob from last year)
It is a political process, JY has done a great job selling PY and I would be shocked if he wasn't Mr. Soccer. On the same hand I can't think of anyone else in Class A that should be Mr. Soccer. In Class AA, I would say it still up for grabs. What coach and family are willing to start the buzz.
Rosentahl will not be Mr Soccer. The player of the year from the Lake Conf and all the other Conf who are seniors are up for the award. Which means only 1 AV player can be up and it will be #1 the deep sweeper. Trust me on this. Scanlon loves the kid and does not love Rosenthal.
The Sweeper is so overrated from AV! He is good but some people make him out to be greatness. He struggles to put his free kicks on frame like AV usually does.
-Top 5 Goal Scorers for the Lake Conference ---David Rosenthal, SR (Apple Valley) - 31 ---Justin Clark, SR (Eagan) - 17 ---Luke Grittner, SR (Eagan) - 16 ---Tom Obarski, JR (Apple Valley) - 15 ---Ebenezer Mengistu, JR (Park of Cottage Grove) - 12
Granted, goals aren't everything, but the gap between Rosenthal and the rest is pretty remarkable
Whitney didn't win it last year because of hype, buzz and parental help. He won it because he scored a ton of goals for the best team and he had been a top player in MYSA and ODP for years. I'd say he was a top 5 U17 player last summer.
You have to be the best player on one of the best teams to win Mr. Soccer. So, who is the best player on each of the top 10 teams? They're the players that will be up for it.
I would rather have a State Title than a Mr. Soccer. Scanlon probably would too. The best player on AV should probably win it. It will be like Jeter winning MVP even though Mauer is better and more deserving.
Why is Jefferson still rated? They finished 7th in the Lake Conference. Final Season Poll - October 12, 2009
1. Apple Valley 2. Woodbury 3. Anoka 4. Eagan 5. Minneapolis Southwest 6. White Bear Lake 7. Eden Prairie 8. Elk River 9. Edina 10. Bloomington Jefferson Others: Centennial, Park Cottage Grove
Can anyone answer why for Sections that all the A schools have 14-16 teams in their brackets and all the AA schools have at the most 9. Couldn't the AA schools combine some of the brackets. Just seems out of wack.
could be that there are a lot more A teams than AA teams. not sure how to correct it other than to lower the enrollment number that determines whether you are A or AA, but that really wouldn't impact the top A teams as they are traditionally the smaller private schools which aren't currently near the current number.
Maybe they need to change the criteria for A and AA, I know its based on student population, maybe you can move some of the larger A schools to AA, since there are 8 sections for each A and AA, wouldn't it be better to try to level it out to some extent. Maybe making it harder for some teams to get to state makes it worth it. Some of the brackets make it real easy for some of the schools to always qualify for state. Just seems to me that they could try to level out the fields somehow.
IMO, its not the quantity of teams in a section but the quality of teams in the section. Look at the best Class A sections that have a lot of teams. The top teams either get a bye or destroy some really weak low seed. It's based on geography. If the top 5 teams in the state are all neighboring schools, then unfortunately only 1 is going to make it to state. Unless they set up a NCAA style tournament where everyone gets seeded in one big bracket, not sure what you are gonna do.
I sense someone out there has a specific example that pertains to them regarding the sections. If so, please provide us the details so everyone could provide feedback.
1040- Jefferson is still rated because they finished with a solid record and some good wins. They beat Edina, tied EP, and showed that they are a contender to win their section. Conference play isn't everything. When Jefferson plays well, they play very, very well. Everyone feels like they have to bash on Jefferson all the time, when really no team stands out other than AV. Too much negativity on this blog.
I like the idea of a NCAA bracket but how do you determine the seedings? Currently aren't sections seedings determined by the coaches in those sections? How would this work with a NCAA style bracket. I think it could be a real interesting format.
Mister Soccer - although your effort at sorting this out would be valiant, I can pretty much guarantee you that for every scenario that you think you've solved, 50% of the folks out there won't like it. What seems "right" in your mind might not be "right" in others.
You are absolutely correct in that in the end, the best team wins. The only caveat to that would be if the two best teams are in the same section and play on someone's home field versus a neutral site.
The better team likely earned the home field. Most section opponents play each other in regular season (if the coach is smart in scheduling). Thus, the home field advantage is to the better team.
You're correct, however, my scenarios would certainly be an improvement. I can guarantee it.
Wait. That's selling myself short. It can be as easy as knowing there should be an 8 team playoff in College Football instead of the BCS. So simple, so logical, so beautiful.
This nonsense happens everywhere. Why do the Wild play Vancouver and Edmonton instead of Chicago and Detroit?
prairie seeds academy will win class A. This is no joke they are a hand picked team that just played exhibitions all year. I do not know how they got in but they will crush.
Who knows more about this Prairie Seeds Academy? Is this the team that a bunch of kids form northern suburbs moved to? Does Isaac K. play on it? I heard he had left Cooper (previous to that played for Armstrong) and gone to a charter school, maybe this is it?
How can they play exhibitions and be in sectionals?
740...I just did a little looking and came across a rule that states a team has to play in 3 official varsity contests to be considered for tournament play. Did they? I'd also be curious what the rules are on recruiting and if they followed them. I'm in a AA school so this doesn't affect me, but this seems beyond unfair. They are in Totino's section too;
Lake Conf has 3 sections where they are seeded 1 and 2. That is impressive. Section 1 Lakeville's 1 and 2, Section 2 EP and Jeff, Section 3 AV and Eagan. No conf can claim that. As for Mr Soccer it has to be a senior who is the top rated player out of their conf. Rosenthal is not top in the Lake so he has no chance. The sweeper is #1. So he will win it. Its a slam dunk. Trust me.
Rosenthal isn't the best player on his team either, but Mr. Soccer is heavily biased towards goalscorers, essentially who made the biggest impact on helping their team win, which is undeniably Rosenthal. He's almost doubled the goals of any other player in the Lake, which like (I believe) 7:52 was going for, is the best Conference in the state.
Northwest Suburban has Elk River #1 in section 8, Centennial #1 and and Osseo #2 in section 5 and and Anoka #1, Blaine #2, and Coon Rapids #3 in section 7
If/When Bijan Jabari wins Mr. Soccer it will be embarrassing to MN soccer. No wonder why we don't get any respect for boys soccer around the region/country
1108 you are missing the point. If Rosenthal wasn't voted the best player in his conf., and he may have been, but it sounds like the 'sweeper' might have been Scanlon's choice. If that is the case than Rosenthal isn't even eligible.
If you want roster info - go to mshsl.org and you'll see which kids are on the varsity soccer roster. Prairie Seeds also played Shattuck this fall. Go to SSM's website to see their roster and record.
3:58 - Miller is Region 2 and national ODP player. He is fun to watch. Very fast with the ball on dribble. Very talented player. And no I'm not from Woodbury. I've seen him play in summer and high school games.
Miller is the best but cant win Mr Soccer because he is a junior. AV may or may not be the best team, but when you go 18-0 and dominate the way they did they will get the Mr. Soccer. Jabari will win this award for sure because he is the player that was the top rated in the Lake on AV. The coaches tomorrow will give it to the AV player, if Scanlon would have pushed Rosenthal then he would have won. Its a done deal and will be decided tomorrow and then announced next Sunday at the banquet. Lets talk about section matches up because this is done.
Miller is way better then Obarski. Sorry but its a no brainer. Miller plays in with the Natl team for his age. Obarski is not even close to that level.
Anoka first big time team to go down. Who is next? I will say MPLS SW. They will lose to Wayzata.
8:19....Don't know where you got your info from but Miller is NOT listed on ANY National team roster...not at U15, U17 or U18. Maybe just for Region 2 team?
"Whitney didn't win it last year because of hype ..... but he had been a top player in MYSA and ODP for years. I'd say he was a top 5 U17 player last summer." Mr. Soccer 16/10/09 10:02 AM
You have just shown how much you really don't know. First, I would have said that he could not even break into the top 11 players at the U18 age group that were the majority of the senior he played against. As far as the top 5 in the U17 age group I would say that is over statement of the facts as well. Sucess in MYSA league, LOL I guess if you think finishing last in league in 08 is sucess I have some prime land in Florida that I would like to sell you.
He scored goals, his coach promoted him heavily, this blog carried on and on about the kid. I do think it also was something the coaches did to make up for not awarding his older brother Mr. Soccer, who probably did deserve it.
People should not knock players here by name, not right. Think about what you are doing, would you like it if your kid was being ripped by a stranger just because hes good at soccer. Tom O is a very good player, Whitney B is a very good player, Eric M is a very good player.
I only promote by name. I don't hate by name. These are high school kids. There even is an unwritten rule not to hate on college athletes. It does not open the door to hate by name.
10:16, I disagree. We'll have to agree to disagree, but I'll take a MN team from the last 2 years with WB on it and it will be better than your team. He would for sure be in my top 11.
That's a big shocker for me. Anoka has been doing well and especially at defense department. Two goals are the max they've given in a game this year versus scoring 6:1 ratio (48 for and 8 against). Champion of the tough NWS conference with record of 8-0-1.
I don't want to take credits away from Duluth East, they've done a great job in stopping the Tornadoes attacking and blasted in two goals for the win is a great accomplishment. Congrats.
No matter how much better you think one team is then the other team the score will be close. Its the playoffs and teams fight harder then every to stay alive. Now that the really really poor teams are out you will see maybe one game by more then a goal.
Minneapolis South vs. Robbinsdale Armstrong - 7PM at Armstrong The last time they met, the Tigers came out ahead 1-0. The Falcons have many good players and will they show up to play tonight. This will be a good game to watch with all the chips on the table this time. I have Falcons 3-1 Tigers.
Centennial vs. Champlin Park - 7PM at Centennial The last time they met, the Cougars came out ahead 1-0. Both have speedy attackers. The Cougars defense is more solid. I have Cougars 2-1 Rebels.
Maple Grove vs. Osseo - 7PM at Osseo The last time they met, the Crimson took the game 1-0. Was it a fluke or the Crimson know how to win in Section. I have Orioles 3-0 Crimson.
Stillwater Area vs. White Bear Lake - 5M at White Bear Lake It was a tie when they met last. Both have strong defense. This probably will come down to spot kicks. I have Stillwater 2-1 Bears.
Eagan vs. Park of Cottage Grove 7PM at Eagan The Wildcats have a strong record in tough Lake conference. Finishing 2nd behind the almighty Apple Valley. The Wolfpack will have their hands full tonight. I have Wildcats 3-0 Wolfpack.
Mr. Soccer I have used a blog name and have even signed my own name not some fake name. Only to have someone post stuff with my name on it. So, I think the name thing is kind of pointless.
To be clear, you would take the '08 Wings U16 team that won one game and scored a whopping 11 goals in league, and the 09 MTA Super Star team that finished third in its POOL at state cup over the ANY of the players on the 09 U18 team that won State Cup for the last 5 years. The facts do not support ANY of your statments. It not jealously it is pointing out the inconsistancy of your statements.
As far as mentioning players by name, I would agree, note in my post his name was mention by you, not me. Your post is full of untruths and when called on it you whine about slaming the kid. I don't know him personnelly, he maybe a really nice person. But the point of the orginal post wasn't even aimed at him. It was how players get considered to be Mr. Soccer. I get the feeling that you may have had something to do with the Mr. Soccer hype last year and feel a need to defend your shaky position.
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«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 1678 Newer› Newest»102 - I agree they can control the ball, but they can not breakdown a packed in defense in the attacking third.
Of course they may not need to the way they can shoot the ball from distance.
I think AV players know what to do without much instructions from Scanlon. They've been at MRL level so it should be no brainer.
Conference Champs Update 10/9
Classic Lake - Armstrong.
Lake Conference - Apple Valley.
Minneapolis City - Minneapolis Southwest.
North Suburban - Totino-Grace.
Northwest Suburban - Anoka. ** Update **
St. Paul City - St. Paul Como Park and/or St. Paul Central.
Suburban East - Woodbury. ** Update **
Reagan did not. Stick to soccer.
XMan Games to Watch - Saturday 10/10
** MUST WATCH **
Minneapolis South vs. Robbinsdale Armstrong - 3:00 PM at Robbinsdale Armstrong
This should tell how better Armstrong comparing to Minneapolis Southwest.
The Falcons need to make a strong case for #1 in Section 6AA.
They better trounce the Tigers more than 3 goals.
I have Falcons 4-0 Tigers.
White Bear Lake vs. Stillwater Area - 5:00 PM at Stillwater Area
The Bears need to win this game to secure #2 in Section 4AA.
I have Bears 2-1 Stillwater.
Elk River vs. Eden Prairie - 10:00 AM at Eden Prairie
These two could possibily meet in State Tournament (if they can win their sections).
I have Elks 3-2 Eagles.
310 - If not him, then who?
Reagan loved soccer and he defeated communism single-handedly! Check
Liverpool was his favorite team
Dynamo Kiev his least favorite team
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Me XMan
thanks for the heads up - think I will meander my way over to EP
This year section playoffs will be more interesting.
Section 1AA. It's a toss-up between 3 team.
Section 2AA. It's a toss-up between 3 teams.
Section 3AA. Apple Valley. No questions here.
Section 4AA. It's a toss-up between 4 teams.
Section 5AA. It's a toss-up between 4 teams.
Section 6AA. Mpls SW or Armstrong.
Section 7AA. Anoka.
Section 8AA. Elk River.
Seedings are important so I'll get more details once section brackets are up.
Could someone give me some insight on how All-State/Mr. Soccer is decided?
Each conference has their own meeting and rank their players 1 through whatever I don't know how high. Then when figuring Mr. Soccer you must have been voted best Senior in your conference to be up for the award. As for All-State I believe it is limited to 3 players from a team which is unfortunate as im sure this year as it has been in years past some teams have more than 3 worthy of it. It just works this way for the coaches all state team though. StarTrib and PP have their own methods im sure. When figuring the All-State team though the conference rankings are used for those as well because you work your way down the ranking list for how many your conference is getting that year. That varies pending on talent Im sure.
3:28 Stick to soccer. Go somewhere else to discuss politics.
I agree. tomASS, you're constantly adding irrelevant and pointless information to this blog which is a pain to continuously sift through to read about what this blog is actually about (soccer).
couldn't have said it any better ^
But it's so much fun to tweak him.
poke him a little when we need some laughs.
AV I don't know if beating Hastings or Richfield is anything to brag about.
how about going 18-0 in the regular season
Me Xman you aren't your usual hard-nosed self with your vague predictions for sections... what does your gut tell you for those sections with 2 or 3 teams in the mix in your opinion?
443 - fine reading of the moniker
600 - since when has anyone really discussed the game of soccer on this blog? What sifting? you see my name skip over it, is scrolling that difficult for you?
602- it wasn't said, it was written
659 - oh to the contrary, the fishing is so easy in here that you almost don't need bait. Who's tweaking whom?
I thought it was Joe McCarthy
Look at the last three posts before you
tomASS...I believe they're all about soccer
People really shouldn't argue that apple valley isn't the best team. Its the same team that won summer state. They are the eden Prairie of last year. But Eden Prairie actually had good competition. No one can compete with Apple Valley. The question should... be who is the second best team in state? Or who can play a 6-3-1 and tie them?
1044 - how yeah very compelling soccer statements - the one to XMan is the only one of the three that has substance
1147 - I would go with a 5-2-3, have the two mids play centrally. You need more pressure up on their defense to prevent easy direct balls in. The outside backs would support the mids on the attack . Two mids would clean up the central slop. But we are splitting hairs depending on the responsibilities you assign the players in a 6-3-1. The cliche about controlling mid field is out the window when you play AV. There is little midfield play that influences their attack.
You will also need a very organized defense that does not ball watch
10:35 If I had wanted to use your moniker I would have added a "hole" to it.
South 1, Armstrong 0. Score one for the 612.
I can't believe Armstrong lost to South. What happended? Anyone?
xman nice prediction on South vs. Armstrong, only off by about 5 goals. South was the better team.
Armstrong had off day or South is that better?
South was better, they have 2-3 of their top guys back from injuries from what I heard in the stands that just started playing recently. 2nd place city conf. team beat classic lake champs...that should tell you a little about the quality in the city and shows even more that SW is very deserving of the #3 ranking.
Two years in a row for South over Armstrong, which actually played better than last year (4-0). Look for these two teams to meet again Oct. 19 in 6AA semis.
Burnsville 1, Bloomington Jefferson 0
Now let's hear from Jefferson's cheerleaders.
1035 - very original, nobody has ever come up with that one before ;-)
South has two Westside players returning, both are very very good and one may be the most talented player I have seen. Both are also leaders which is just what south needs.
6:59 Doesn't have to be original - just accurate. :-P Just glad you have a sense of humor.
South also added from an injury one of the best 9th graders in the state. he scored the game winner vs. Armstrong.
South should jump to the #2 seed behind SW.
7 17pm thank you for letting us know your son is back.
7:18 - he's not my son. I actually went to watch Armstrong.
7 28 so you were seated with the 9th graders father ?
analon 713 - nothing wrong with accuracy ;-)
What do you guys think of Benilde-St. Margaret's team this year?
BSM has been on a downhill slide since they won state in 2006. Blew their chances in the state quarters in 2007 and not very good at all last year. Must not be recruiting as well recently, or is it that their assistant coach left for his own gig after 2007 (which only lasted a year. Parents can be brutal).
Please post section brackets if you have them. TIA.
Congratulations to
Frederick Neher
Gerald Ben
Ryan Goddard
Chukwuska Iwe
Brandon Wolf
on making the '92 ODP Extended Region Pool list. Any information on how those lads are doing this fall?
2:17 dad fred or ryan's dad, take this to MYSA section. there will be more people interested to talk ODP during HS season. this section is for HS? Let's ask the question, are these some of the best players in the region or this is a the group that showed up?
HS soccer please - OK
Section 4AA
1. Woodbury
2. White Bear Lake
3. Stillwater
4. CDH
5. Roseville
6. Tartan
7. Hill Murray
8. North St Paul
Section 6AA
1. SW
2. ARM
3. SOUTH
4. WYZ
5. HPK
6. STMA
7. BUF
8. COOP
Must have been a close vote total to put Armstrong over South, who beat them yesterday. I've been in seed meetings before where the top seed was unanimous with 7 pts, next 4 were separated by a point a piece. Interesting to see how close you can be to a home game and not get it. SW has a nice home field, but South has a terrible stadium.
I guess you have two city teams that might support each-other, while the suburbs/country teams might support teams they know?
well Armstrong might get another shot at South. That should be a good one assuming they both win.
2:42,
I'm curious to see how summer success translates to HS seasons. I assume bloggers in the HS section would know the most about HS soccer. Is this not HS soccer related? Are you the blog Nazi? Did your kid not make it? Are you angry about something?
Nobody's Dad,
2:17
P.S. Anyone know how those lads are doing? I don't even know who they play for.
And what the hec is an "Extended region pool list"? NEVER heard of that. Where is it posted?
Section 2AA
1 EP
2 Jeff
3 Edina
4 Mtonka
5 Prior Lake
6 Shakopee
7 Kennedy
8 Chaska
top 4 seeds will all win Tuesday night
what about sea biscuit?
Where can you find all of the section rankings? If someone has them could you post them please -
Section 1AA
1. Lakeville South
2. Lakeville North
3. Rochester Mayo
4. Northfield
5. Rochester Century
6. Owatonna
7. Faribault
8. Farmington
9. Rochester John Marshall
8v9 play-in game tonight
Most brackets are now posted on the MSHSL website:
http://mshsl.org/mshsl/showsection.asp?actnum=413
"Extended Region Pool List" is posted through the MYSA website, like almost everything else.
Or maybe 2:17 is just making it ALL the hec up.
http://www.region2.com/Boys_ODP_Regional_Camp_2009.htm
wow, 60+ kids now on ODP listings. can USSF Academy kids even do ODP anymore?
Get as many as decent kids as they can. More money coming in that way.
Are the players on that ODP list not very good? I know a few of the MN kids on the 92 and 93 lists do quite well here in MN leagues.
I would say a player on the 93 list is the top Under-18 player in MN.
2:17
good to see a few MN boys on the Top Drawer Soccer 2010 top 100.
That's pretty cool but I don't think either of those players have played for Super Eagles for a while. What is that list based upon?
How do you get on that list? Is it from nomination or from trying out and performing?
@ 10:39
Frederick Neher - He goes by James, he is an excellent goalie. Quite a big boy, around 6'4" and 215 if iI had to guess. He plays for Mahtomedi for school ball and Black Hawks for club ball.
Ryan Goddard - He is one of the 2 Jefferson players that is on the Valley United Premier team. He is potent up front and is is the creator of the majority of Jefferson's scoring opportunities.
Brandon Wolf - Brandon also plays for the Valley United team during the summer and I believe he played up front. He was on Varsity for Rosemount his freshman, sophomore, and junior year playing as sweeper/stopper but for his senior year he switched to football because he didn't get along with Rosemount's coach. I heard that he has a verbal agreement to go to UW Milwaukee for college next year.
i believe the TopDrawer Soccer info is based off their evaluations and internal rankings. If you aren't currently in their player data pool (especially for grades 2013 and younger), i think all you might have to do is send them an email? Not sure. Most of the older graduating years listings I'm sure were compiled off of MNT, ODP, etc... info.
What are youre predictions for section winners of 1AA 2AA and 6AA, three close sections with some talent. I say toss up between Jefferson and Ep for 2AA, North for 1AA, and SW for 6AA
For 1AA I'd say Lakeville South beats Lakeville North because South has more depth and speed, North relies to much on 2 players. Also in the event they do play each other, it would be at South because they are the higher seed.
For 2AA I'd say EP over Jefferson. I think the teams are really even but EP has a better midfield.
For 6AA I'd say Armstrong. They are used to tougher competition, I don't think SW will react well aganist stronger team that they aren't able to run up the score on.
armstrong just lost to south...no way they get out of section.
I have seen EP 3 times this year - They barely beat Chaska, They barely beat Chanhassen. Those games showed me an ordinary team.
Jefferson will win again in section 2
828 thanks for the input. I see where youre coming from with South of North..but I could also see it going either way. And with the armstrong loss to south, it seems that SW could come away with the section, but I think Armstrong could pull through. EP has been looking quite average, but so has Jefferson. I think it will come down to Jefferson being able to play the soccer that they know how to. Ive seen moments of great soccer, but the inconsistency is a huge issue for them. I mean a tie to Kennedy? (could be blamed on the field- it was raining, and it's the worst field in the state). I think Storlien will pull out another state birth. He could do so much more with the talent he has though.
South over North****
any scores from Monday games???
Anyone got Section 8AA bracket?
Southwest will get beat by the winner of the Hopkins Wayzata game. Southwest however is the best team in the section. Not a strong section just 5 mediocre teams that could win it.
XMan AA Section Winners Prediction - 10/13
Section 1AA - Lakeville North
Section 2AA - Jefferson
I would have picked EP but it's the coach that I have a huge question.
Section 3AA - Apple Valley
Section 4AA - Woodbury
Section 5AA - Centennial
Section 6AA - Armstrong
Section 7AA - Anoka
Section 8AA - Elk River
xman's done so well with his predictions lately...
It's a prediction. It is what it is. Just having fun.
This year gives no surprises like last year.
Take out Apple Valley and you have a "TOURNAMENT".
MeX
What's up with Osseo this year?
Osseo has won several in a row, but they are way down. They had a kid from Vietnam on the team. Turned out he was 21. (Fresh off the boat--honest mistake) Had to forfeit 3 games.
Then the AD and coach started vetting all the players. Kicked off three more Liberians--kids that lied on their paperwork. Yow, huh? The AD there is on top of it, from what I hear. Let's not even think about last year's Osseo team...
Final Season Poll - October 12, 2009
1. Apple Valley
2. Woodbury
3. Anoka
4. Eagan
5. Minneapolis Southwest
6. White Bear Lake
7. Eden Prairie
8. Elk River
9. Edina
10. Bloomington Jefferson
Others: Centennial, Park Cottage Grove
12:39
Somehwhat right on Osseo the liberians you talk about were never on the team they had academic problem. The boys last year were all legal....
But as the AD goes he know s nothing his head in hte cloud with his booster club.
On another note tell me what you know about the assistant coach CH not showing up to games or practice the last 2 weeks?
Thats the real news, now that team is in really big trouble without coaching
South 3 STMA 0
Southwest 1 Cooper 1 halftime
Had the chance to watch about 10 HS games this year. Including Apple Valley, Minneapolis SouthWest, Edina, Woodbury and Jefferson. Boys HS soccer is poor, very poor. Outside of AV's ability to consistently score goals, the quality of play is in the basement...nowhere but up for next year...I guess.
At least HS has cheerleaders and friends. Traveling don't have any. Mostly parents. BTW, HS games play in stadium too.
Instead of ragging on h.s. soccer just accept it for what it is. there are almost 200 teams in a and aa combined. As a result the talent is diluted. Quit watching games if you think it's that poor.
anyone have the wayzata vs hopkins score?
Wayzata 2 Hopkins 1
Jefferson 2 Kennedy 1
Armstrong score?
SW 4
Cooper 1
armstrong 1
buffalo 0 double OT
Park CG 2
Rosemount 1
Prior Lake 1
Minnetonka 0
wow lots of close games today
anon 8:00pm : do you buy your milk from Walmart, SA station or Byerlys? I get mine from Aldys. It's still milk. HS soccer is still soccer to lots of people. quit watching and you might be surprised, it will still be happening.
Anyone know the AV - Sibley score??
10:16 well said
AV - 7
Sibley- 0
Sibley had 2 shots on goal, AV had 3 goals taken back for being off-sides.
they're not goals then if they were offsides - the shots never occurred
No surprises tonight.
Burnsville over Eastview... what happened at that game?
Can someone please explain how teams are grouped together in sections? How does a team like Hastings ever have a chance when they are grouped with schools like AV, Burnsville and Eagan. Seems to me like things are a little lopsided in the sections and definately favor the bigger suburban schools!
Way to go Burnsville - Go get AV!
I believe schools can petition to get section reassignments.
Burnsville also just beat Jefferson and tied EP earlier in the year. They only lost to AV 1 to 0 the 1st time so maybe they can find a way to win!?
10:45 - Are you telling me Hastings should be in the State Tourney even if they can't beat AV, Burns and Eagan? Shouldn't the State Tournament simply be:
AV
Woodbury
Anoka
Southwest
Eagan
EP
Jefferson
White Bear
HS Soccer is as logical as the BCS system. It's almost as though MYSA is running things.
mister soccer - LOL now that is funny no matter what type of soccer fan you are
They have a few outstate sections--and several metro sections. They tried to limit it a bit with the semi-suburb schools like Elk River or Hastings. Some poepl got tired of the same team (like ER) going to state every year while the teams in their conference beat them during the regular season.
They trie to split up the major conferences into two sections where possible.
#1-4 all won in 4AA
WDB to host CDH (WDB won 4-1 early)
WBL to host STW (0-0 tie last weekend)
WDB has the best all-around player. STW has the best keeper.
WDB can beat anyone.
and just who would the best all-around player be?
miller
maybe the best all-around player on THAT team but not even close to being that in metro teams.
9:24 - Eastview scord Eastview didn't have much offence, they were basically relying on Benda to be a one man show up front. Eastview took a 1-0 lead around half and tried to sit on the lead. With 15 minutes left Burnsville got Zimenski, Eastviews sweeper, out of the center and was able to sneak a goal in. Then it was all down hill for Eastview and Burnsville finished 2 more mediocre goals.
The two following goals were anything but mediocre. Maybe Ziminski was so distracted from all the yelling his coach does to him.
In the finals (guesses):
1AA - The Lakeville's
2AA - Prior Lake Jefferson
3AA - Just Apple Valley
4AA - Woodbury Stillwater
5AA - Osseo Centennial
6AA - Southwest South
7AA - Coon Rapids Anoka
8AA - Who's in this section?
Elk River, Brainerd, St. Cloud TEch, Fergus Falls, St. Cloud Apollo, Moorhead, Zimmerman.
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/showbrackets.asp?tournid=515
TomAss -
What is more confusing:
A. High School section assignments.
B. MYSA district assignments and schedules.
Funny thing is: give me 5 hours and I could sort out both, for each class, for each gender, for all ages and I could make it be a thing of beauty and logic. Funnier thing is: we pay a bunch of dummies to do this stuff and I would do it for free.
Mr. S - asinine more so than confusing.
Are you sure that was Z's coach or his dad, who has been famous for years of yelling at his kid what to do.
Oh, you must be referring to "psycho Joe!"
Joe is a good guy. Easy Psycho!
AV's Rosenthal will be Mr. Soccer. He has the best stats for the best team. I don't know if AV has ever had a Mr. Soccer before, have they?
Joe is a bit psycho, say he is nice guy doesnt mean anything. Petters, nice guy, Hecker, nice guy, Madoff, nice guy, Dohmer, nice guy...
Stats aren't everything...in fact, maybe not so much as much as is the player well rounded, a team player, unselfish, AND a great player. The whole package.
What....are you kidding, based on the past few years I would say it all about the hype. Postings regarding the player here, talking to coaches throughout the state about the kid. Stats do help get the coaches attention. Your coach has to be willing to sell the kid to his peers. He has to be respected by the other coaches. Your coach should hopefully be on some the sections committees so he can be sure to work hard for his players. (like Jason Jacob from last year)
It is a political process, JY has done a great job selling PY and I would be shocked if he wasn't Mr. Soccer. On the same hand I can't think of anyone else in Class A that should be Mr. Soccer. In Class AA, I would say it still up for grabs. What coach and family are willing to start the buzz.
What was the first year Mr. Soccer was awarded?
Who are all the contenders for AA Mr soccer?
Rosentahl will not be Mr Soccer. The player of the year from the Lake Conf and all the other Conf who are seniors are up for the award. Which means only 1 AV player can be up and it will be #1 the deep sweeper. Trust me on this. Scanlon loves the kid and does not love Rosenthal.
Can someone who was involved on the process last year tells us how all state players are selected?
eenie, meenie, minnie moe, catch a parent by the toe
The Sweeper is so overrated from AV! He is good but some people make him out to be greatness. He struggles to put his free kicks on frame like AV usually does.
The choice for Mr. Soccer is quite clear:
-Top 5 Goal Scorers for the Lake Conference
---David Rosenthal, SR (Apple Valley) - 31
---Justin Clark, SR (Eagan) - 17
---Luke Grittner, SR (Eagan) - 16
---Tom Obarski, JR (Apple Valley) - 15
---Ebenezer Mengistu, JR (Park of Cottage Grove) - 12
Granted, goals aren't everything, but the gap between Rosenthal and the rest is pretty remarkable
Whitney didn't win it last year because of hype, buzz and parental help. He won it because he scored a ton of goals for the best team and he had been a top player in MYSA and ODP for years. I'd say he was a top 5 U17 player last summer.
You have to be the best player on one of the best teams to win Mr. Soccer. So, who is the best player on each of the top 10 teams? They're the players that will be up for it.
I would rather have a State Title than a Mr. Soccer. Scanlon probably would too. The best player on AV should probably win it. It will be like Jeter winning MVP even though Mauer is better and more deserving.
Everyone should want rings over MVPs.
Why is Jefferson still rated? They finished 7th in the Lake Conference.
Final Season Poll - October 12, 2009
1. Apple Valley
2. Woodbury
3. Anoka
4. Eagan
5. Minneapolis Southwest
6. White Bear Lake
7. Eden Prairie
8. Elk River
9. Edina
10. Bloomington Jefferson
Others: Centennial, Park Cottage Grove
Does anybody know or have the list of Mr. Soccer's from when it first was awarded up to last year?
Can anyone answer why for Sections that all the A schools have 14-16 teams in their brackets and all the AA schools have at the most 9. Couldn't the AA schools combine some of the brackets. Just seems out of wack.
could be that there are a lot more A teams than AA teams.
not sure how to correct it other than to lower the enrollment number that determines whether you are A or AA, but that really wouldn't impact the top A teams as they are traditionally the smaller private schools which aren't currently near the current number.
By combining brackets how would you still have 8 sections? If anything that would make it even harder to get to state.
AA has 65 largest schools and A has everyone else, 120+. what do you mean combine some of the brackets 1155?
Maybe they need to change the criteria for A and AA, I know its based on student population, maybe you can move some of the larger A schools to AA, since there are 8 sections for each A and AA, wouldn't it be better to try to level it out to some extent. Maybe making it harder for some teams to get to state makes it worth it. Some of the brackets make it real easy for some of the schools to always qualify for state.
Just seems to me that they could try to level out the fields somehow.
IMO, its not the quantity of teams in a section but the quality of teams in the section. Look at the best Class A sections that have a lot of teams. The top teams either get a bye or destroy some really weak low seed. It's based on geography. If the top 5 teams in the state are all neighboring schools, then unfortunately only 1 is going to make it to state. Unless they set up a NCAA style tournament where everyone gets seeded in one big bracket, not sure what you are gonna do.
I sense someone out there has a specific example that pertains to them regarding the sections. If so, please provide us the details so everyone could provide feedback.
1040- Jefferson is still rated because they finished with a solid record and some good wins. They beat Edina, tied EP, and showed that they are a contender to win their section. Conference play isn't everything. When Jefferson plays well, they play very, very well. Everyone feels like they have to bash on Jefferson all the time, when really no team stands out other than AV. Too much negativity on this blog.
I like the idea of a NCAA bracket but how do you determine the seedings? Currently aren't sections seedings determined by the coaches in those sections? How would this work with a NCAA style bracket. I think it could be a real interesting format.
Didn't I mention that Section Allocation is asinine to the extent that it's as though MYSA is running things?
Really, I mean things when I say it.
Don't waste your time trying to hash it out. It's been this way forever.
In the end, the best team wins it all and that's really all that matters.
Mister Soccer - although your effort at sorting this out would be valiant, I can pretty much guarantee you that for every scenario that you think you've solved, 50% of the folks out there won't like it. What seems "right" in your mind might not be "right" in others.
You are absolutely correct in that in the end, the best team wins. The only caveat to that would be if the two best teams are in the same section and play on someone's home field versus a neutral site.
The better team likely earned the home field. Most section opponents play each other in regular season (if the coach is smart in scheduling). Thus, the home field advantage is to the better team.
You're correct, however, my scenarios would certainly be an improvement. I can guarantee it.
Wait. That's selling myself short. It can be as easy as knowing there should be an 8 team playoff in College Football instead of the BCS. So simple, so logical, so beautiful.
This nonsense happens everywhere. Why do the Wild play Vancouver and Edmonton instead of Chicago and Detroit?
I'm only 5'7" I find it easy to sell myself short
prairie seeds academy will win class A. This is no joke they are a hand picked team that just played exhibitions all year. I do not know how they got in but they will crush.
9:52 AM Dude you've got to get out and see more soccer than just the Lake. Lot's more Mr. Soccer candidates than you know. Nice try though.
so let's hear some names 7:37....instead of nice try...give it a try.
Who knows more about this Prairie Seeds Academy?
Is this the team that a bunch of kids form northern suburbs moved to? Does Isaac K. play on it? I heard he had left Cooper (previous to that played for Armstrong) and gone to a charter school, maybe this is it?
How can they play exhibitions and be in sectionals?
740...I just did a little looking and came across a rule that states a team has to play in 3 official varsity contests to be considered for tournament play. Did they? I'd also be curious what the rules are on recruiting and if they followed them. I'm in a AA school so this doesn't affect me, but this seems beyond unfair. They are in Totino's section too;
WB wasn't the best player on his team.
Lake Conf has 3 sections where they are seeded 1 and 2. That is impressive. Section 1 Lakeville's 1 and 2, Section 2 EP and Jeff, Section 3 AV and Eagan. No conf can claim that. As for Mr Soccer it has to be a senior who is the top rated player out of their conf. Rosenthal is not top in the Lake so he has no chance. The sweeper is #1. So he will win it. Its a slam dunk. Trust me.
Eddie Becerra from SW should be given serious consideration.
11:08,
Rosenthal isn't the best player on his team either, but Mr. Soccer is heavily biased towards goalscorers, essentially who made the biggest impact on helping their team win, which is undeniably Rosenthal. He's almost doubled the goals of any other player in the Lake, which like (I believe) 7:52 was going for, is the best Conference in the state.
Northwest Suburban has Elk River #1 in section 8, Centennial #1 and and Osseo #2 in section 5 and and Anoka #1, Blaine #2, and Coon Rapids #3 in section 7
If/When Bijan Jabari wins Mr. Soccer it will be embarrassing to MN soccer. No wonder why we don't get any respect for boys soccer around the region/country
1108 you are missing the point. If Rosenthal wasn't voted the best player in his conf., and he may have been, but it sounds like the 'sweeper' might have been Scanlon's choice. If that is the case than Rosenthal isn't even eligible.
If you want roster info - go to mshsl.org and you'll see which kids are on the varsity soccer roster. Prairie Seeds also played Shattuck this fall. Go to SSM's website to see their roster and record.
Eric Miller from Woodbury is the best AA palyer. He is a junior.
^uhhhh...who?
Anyways, why does Mr. Soccer have to come from Apple Valley? The team is extremely overrated, they should be kissing the ground they walk on
They barely snuck by against Eastview, Burnsville, OWATONNA?! I mean, come on!
3:58 - Miller is Region 2 and national ODP player. He is fun to watch. Very fast with the ball on dribble. Very talented player. And no I'm not from Woodbury. I've seen him play in summer and high school games.
Edi from westside and southwest is the top player in mn at the age.
voldemort
rumor has it the hopkins coach was pushing for Kessler. They had 4 wins on the season.
Miller is the best but cant win Mr Soccer because he is a junior. AV may or may not be the best team, but when you go 18-0 and dominate the way they did they will get the Mr. Soccer. Jabari will win this award for sure because he is the player that was the top rated in the Lake on AV. The coaches tomorrow will give it to the AV player, if Scanlon would have pushed Rosenthal then he would have won. Its a done deal and will be decided tomorrow and then announced next Sunday at the banquet. Lets talk about section matches up because this is done.
Anoka score from today?
I don't think it should be limited to seniors it should just go to best player.
well there goes Prairie Seed Academy...lost 2-1 to Fridley.
anoka lost 2-1 to duluth east
Miller is not best AA player, not even best junior in the state, Obarski from AV is better
Miller is way better then Obarski. Sorry but its a no brainer. Miller plays in with the Natl team for his age. Obarski is not even close to that level.
Anoka first big time team to go down. Who is next? I will say MPLS SW. They will lose to Wayzata.
When and where did Miller play for the National team?
8:19....Don't know where you got your info from but Miller is NOT listed on ANY National team roster...not at U15, U17 or U18. Maybe just for Region 2 team?
Miller is def the best that will come out of MN for a while
"Whitney didn't win it last year because of hype ..... but he had been a top player in MYSA and ODP for years. I'd say he was a top 5 U17 player last summer." Mr. Soccer 16/10/09 10:02 AM
You have just shown how much you really don't know. First, I would have said that he could not even break into the top 11 players at the U18 age group that were the majority of the senior he played against. As far as the top 5 in the U17 age group I would say that is over statement of the facts as well. Sucess in MYSA league, LOL I guess if you think finishing last in league in 08 is sucess I have some prime land in Florida that I would like to sell you.
He scored goals, his coach promoted him heavily, this blog carried on and on about the kid. I do think it also was something the coaches did to make up for not awarding his older brother Mr. Soccer, who probably did deserve it.
So hold on, you think that Whitney Browne did not deserve to win Mr. Soccer?
People should not knock players here by name, not right.
Think about what you are doing, would you like it if your kid was being ripped by a stranger just because hes good at soccer.
Tom O is a very good player, Whitney B is a very good player, Eric M is a very good player.
Then stop promoting them by name as well....certainly opens the door for both sides....for and against. gets old.
You idiots are jealous.
I only promote by name. I don't hate by name. These are high school kids. There even is an unwritten rule not to hate on college athletes. It does not open the door to hate by name.
10:16, I disagree. We'll have to agree to disagree, but I'll take a MN team from the last 2 years with WB on it and it will be better than your team. He would for sure be in my top 11.
Please use a blog name so things are more clear.
burnsville vs valley tomorrow
predictions on that?
im thinking burnsville 2-1 or 2-2 OT. Valley beat burnsville 1-0 conference play. It was a very good game.
Edina vs. Jefferson; Edina 3-1.
I think edina will sweep this away, but again another very good game.
what do you guys think?
Burnsville deserves some respect
Jefferson will beat Edina 2-0
EP will beat Prior Lake 2-0
Wayzata will be S W 1-0
South will be Armstrong 2-1
AV will beat Burnsville 3-0
Eagan will beat Park 2-1
Woodbury?
WYZ 0 SW 3
RA 1 SOUTH 2
BV. O VALLY 6
EAG 4 PARK 1
voldemort will win all
this blog is hilarious
nailed that 1001 post!
Aooka lost due to head coach's inability in coaching the team.
They should replace him.
av will go against woodbury for the state crown.. srry ep.. u suck..
I cant finish easy goals so I blame the coach-what a joke
Actually, the Anoka coach is a nut.
Anoka 1-2 Duluth East
That's a big shocker for me. Anoka has been doing well and especially at defense department. Two goals are the max they've given in a game this year versus scoring 6:1 ratio (48 for and 8 against). Champion of the tough NWS conference with record of 8-0-1.
I don't want to take credits away from Duluth East, they've done a great job in stopping the Tornadoes attacking and blasted in two goals for the win is a great accomplishment. Congrats.
BTW, I wasn't at this game. What happened?
No matter how much better you think one team is then the other team the score will be close. Its the playoffs and teams fight harder then every to stay alive. Now that the really really poor teams are out you will see maybe one game by more then a goal.
XMan Games to Watch - Monday 10/19
Minneapolis South vs. Robbinsdale Armstrong - 7PM at Armstrong
The last time they met, the Tigers came out ahead 1-0.
The Falcons have many good players and will they show up to play tonight.
This will be a good game to watch with all the chips on the table this time.
I have Falcons 3-1 Tigers.
Centennial vs. Champlin Park - 7PM at Centennial
The last time they met, the Cougars came out ahead 1-0.
Both have speedy attackers. The Cougars defense is more solid.
I have Cougars 2-1 Rebels.
Maple Grove vs. Osseo - 7PM at Osseo
The last time they met, the Crimson took the game 1-0.
Was it a fluke or the Crimson know how to win in Section.
I have Orioles 3-0 Crimson.
Stillwater Area vs. White Bear Lake - 5M at White Bear Lake
It was a tie when they met last. Both have strong defense.
This probably will come down to spot kicks.
I have Stillwater 2-1 Bears.
Eagan vs. Park of Cottage Grove 7PM at Eagan
The Wildcats have a strong record in tough Lake conference.
Finishing 2nd behind the almighty Apple Valley.
The Wolfpack will have their hands full tonight.
I have Wildcats 3-0 Wolfpack.
Mr. Soccer
I have used a blog name and have even signed my own name not some fake name. Only to have someone post stuff with my name on it. So, I think the name thing is kind of pointless.
To be clear, you would take the '08 Wings U16 team that won one game and scored a whopping 11 goals in league, and the 09 MTA Super Star team that finished third in its POOL at state cup over the ANY of the players on the 09 U18 team that won State Cup for the last 5 years. The facts do not support ANY of your statments. It not jealously it is pointing out the inconsistancy of your statements.
As far as mentioning players by name, I would agree, note in my post his name was mention by you, not me. Your post is full of untruths and when called on it you whine about slaming the kid. I don't know him personnelly, he maybe a really nice person. But the point of the orginal post wasn't even aimed at him. It was how players get considered to be Mr. Soccer. I get the feeling that you may have had something to do with the Mr. Soccer hype last year and feel a need to defend your shaky position.
Section 3AA, Section 4AA, Section 5AA, and Section 6AA all playing semis tonight. Please post scores ASAP. Should be some fun and competitive
This if from minnesota-scores.net
Strength of Schedule Rankings
1 Apple Valley (20-0-0) 89.2
2 Woodbury (14-0-3) 82.6
3 Eagan (16-2-2) 71.7
4 Park of Cottage Grove (12-4-4) 71.1
5 Anoka (14-0-3) 70.9
T-6 Minneapolis Southwest (16-1-0) 70.6
T-6 Bloomington Jefferson (10-4-4) 70.6
8 Edina (11-4-2) 70.0
9 Eden Prairie (11-2-6) 69.8
10 Burnsville (9-5-3)
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