With all the nonsense in the previous posting, its time to let the kids play. Looks like MN weather will keep the games from starting for a few more days. Hopefully the fields will hold up. Good luck to everyone in the tournament!
Schedule and results here: http://www.mnyouthsoccer.org/events/statecup.cfm#sched
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 1034 Newer› Newest»946, Get over yourselves, It's probably a simple typo. 902, SSM is a school that has a soccer program. School first, soccer second. SSM girls soccer is in the initial start up mode. They would like to be considered big time like their hockey program but have a long way to go. Until you start seeing their players end up playing for the World Cup or on the Olympic team I don't see a need to send my kid there.
1107 makes a point that I have a hard time agreeing with or understanding. "If they go to Bangu they are (expensive) possessions, too, until a better player comes along and then they are dumped."
People need to realize that Bangu is NOT a community club. They don't make accommodations for everyone. If a player is on a team one year, they are not guaranteed a spot the following year. That's the nature of being an elite club. You have to continue to work and progress or someone will take your spot. What's wrong with that?
There is no "entitlement" involved. My daughter does play for Bangu and I've seen a lot of bitter parents after their girl didn't make the top team. The player may be disappointed, even devastated, but it's a life lesson - nothing is handed to you. Maybe the parents should use that as a "teachable moment" to let their kid know they have to work for what they want in life and channel that energy into doing what they need to make the top team again, if that's what the child wants.
I believe in a lot of cases the parents are the ones who are thinking, "how can I spin this as I brag about my kids accomplishments?"
Bangu will continue to attempt to improve its teams from year to year. Do people think they should just stagnate, and the 16 – 18 girls that are on the team at U13 should be the same 16 – 18 girls that play U17 or 18?
Kids develop at different paces.
Thank God a CC has never bumped a kid from the top team to the second team......what's that.....you say they have......oh...nevermind.
anon 11:34
Slow night at the bar! Drinking buddies tried of you whining about the RTR website and MA......GUESS WHAT......WE ARE TOO!
SSMSC Usaully you have good things to add here. The tired line about CC's treating kids as possessions is something I've never seen in my 20 + years of involvement in Mn soccer. Kids come and go from all programs. I want to see us get as excited about the people who do their recruiting by running down the other clubs I've seen that and can find it on websites etc. When you and others address that kind of B. S. then I will see that we are serious about cleaning up our act. No, academy programs don't need "buy in" from the clubs to succeed. We too often are not clear about whether we mean club or parents. Academy programs need buy in from parents, there are many parents, yes, even of high level players who value integrity in addition to how many wins a team or club has.
You may be right 921, but please define you view of "integrity". You seem to conclude that no one at SSM, Bangu, Wings, etc has any. You also are dreaming if in 20 years you haven't seen any club treat its players as possessions. That statement in and of itself destroys any credible argument you bring to the table.
I do agree that in the last few years we've seen our fair share of mudslinging by people in one club about people in another. It would be nice to not have this a part of youth sport but that's another dream.
anon 5:56 wrote "Maybe the parents should use that as a "teachable moment" to let their kid know they have to work for what they want in life and channel that energy into doing what they need to make the top team again, if that's what the child wants"
You are making a big mistake in your assumption that said kid did not make the team because they did not work hard enough.
Guess what? There is a lot more that goes into whether or not someone makes these teams than how hard they work. A lot of it is sheer geneticly determined athletic potential.
What's your teachable moment then? Sorry, Sweetie, but no matter how hard you work, there will always be someone better than you?
As a CC parent, I wonder if what some are seeing as "a CC treating their players as possesions" isn't in fact more likely the player and parent feeling pride and a sense of community by playing for the "home town" team. Remember most of the kids on a CC team all go to school together, live near one another, and were probably friends prior to Soccer.
I haven't seen the " you are a possesion of the club" mentality, but I have seen peer pressure for a child to stay on a team, or try out for the local team for a variety of reasons.
They want to play with friends/classmates if possible.
they want to play with the kids who they will play with in High School Soccer.
They feel pride in their local community and want to represent it.
I am sure I haven't seen all of the actions others would precieve as a CC acting as the local kids are their possesions, but I wonder if it is viewed that way by the Non community based clubs for some of the above stated reasons.
Fact is the draw to the Community Club for many is the idea that it is Community Based.
Anon 10:06
You make some good points. But there is proof of the "possession" mentality.
In fact a very prominent HS coach from a very large western suburban school who also coaches in a very large western suburban club was sanctioned within the past few years for telling his HS players they must play for the local club if they expected to make the HS team.
These type of issues aren't imaginary they are very real and are vivid proof of the "possession" mentality.
I think I didn't word my last comment correctly. I am not sure if the CC admins think of the players as possessions....but some of those involved certainly do.
I understand a sense of "pride" and "community involvement"-- those are great things to have. But they don't pay the food bill or the rent. The "community" isn't going to take care of these kids when they are adults. Why can't CCs be proud when a kid goes on to higher levels and succeeds? Doesn't the sense of pride go both ways? I can think of one very specific example where a smaller, lower level club is very proud of a player who has moved on and competed at the highest levels available in soccer. That club always issues a press release when he former player does something impressive. The message is "we are looking out for the PLAYERS, not our Win/Loss record." Adopt that approach, and THEN you have something useful and unique that will bring in players.
10:27 The non-CC group out there seems to continualy argue that it should be the kids choice who they play for and the reasons they play for should be solely the decision of that kid and their family.
I agree with that.
I however want you to see the other side of the story. Because a child/family decides to play in a CC vs a non-CC it doesn't mean they have been presured to do so, It VERY LIKELY is because that is what they choose to do. They feel it is in their childs best interest to be part of the community and play with their friends and neighbors, and have a chance to play (in club soccer) with many of the same kids they will see at school and play school soccer for.
Choices, We ALL have the right to make our own for what each of us believes is best for our unique situation.
I agree also that it is wrong for anyone in a position of power to try to leverage their position to unfairly influence kids.
SSM I agree, but let's be clear I do not consider at this time, we as a state have this mythical "higher level" I think the SSM program is on its' way I think a true academy program if done well would be great. Now we have a broad spectrum of CC's and a few who aspire to more. I'm ok with that too if it's what we want.
Here's one of my complaints, a small example. These guys target a kid they want, talk to their parents do the recruiting thing behind the back of coaches, doc etc. They never ask about the kid's committment level or any other things indiscernable from sitting at the end of the field. Then when it is discovered all the sneaking around behind the backs of the coaches etc. The loud cry of "cc possession " is rolled out. Be honorable and it will be returned. Again I can't imagine any coach from any club wanting to keeep a player and family who is not interested in being there. That smacks of sour grapes for the ones not landed.
10:37 I feel it is very arrogant of you to assume that a high level soccer experience cannot be obtained in a Community Club.
What the heck are you talking about "paying the food bill or rent" "The community isn't going to take care of them when they are adults"
So let me understand, Now that I play for a Non-CC club I don't have to worry about paying my rent or having food to eat because my old soccer club that I played for as a child will be there to help me out. WHAT???
If you are referring to "life lessons" learned in sports both types of clubs offer those lessons.
Here's the deal. When a club goes out recruits families (recruiting is good) expectations arise from promises implied. When we fall short of that instead of taking responsibility we blame. We didn't get the players we wanted because CC's treat them as possessions, A HS coach allegedly threatens players, everyone is against us When a CC falls short of goals it is because they cannot serve the needs of the players so their shortfalls are used as evidence of lack of a cc's ability. funny system we have.
11:19 BINGO !!!
It's the same system that's in place in every major metro area in the USA.
It's just that Minnesota is about 5-10 years behind the curve.
Check into how the Magic evolved. Or Scott Gallagher or Vardar or the Texans. Or any other elite club that competes nationally.
Changes will continue to occur and the true elite programs in Minnesota and across the USA will continue to evolve.
It's not whether the CC system or elite club system is better. It's comparing apples and oranges. Both systems serve a need. The change will occur and there's no reason to stop the change. Change is good.
The new Thunder owners realize what is happening across the US and in Europe and will continue their quest which ultimately will be good for the Minnesota soccer community.
We all want change. Yes, even those of us parents in CC's. we want a new true high level soccer option to send our kids to who would benefit. what we have now is unproductive unless you count pounding cc teams with kids from them. I want more for our soccer kids. Let's abandon the idea of tweaking our system and make something work.
Did anyone notice the 16s play tonight?
They will finally get their second group games in.
Is there anything to be watching for?
11:19 has it right. The reality is that the cc's don't organize, by and large, to propagandize their kids (and especially parents) the way the gubirds do. Thus, it is offensive to cc coaches and directors when they hear that the gubirds are bad-mouthing the cc. Lovely that the gubirds will sit at the end of the field and figure out which kids to talk to without ever having any interaction with the coach of the team. Is it really surprising then that the coach would not approve? There is no honor in these people, and to cry foul about a possession mentality is ludicrous in light of the utter lack of any ethical standard in this regard among gu leaders. This is the proverbial trees vs. forest argument. Is a possession mentality (which is a joke anyway) worse than a complete lack of respect for cc coaches and directors? The best part of the gu philosophy, though, is that they then take credit for raising the level of MN soccer when the CC's organize to try to maintain their rosters. What a convenient little world!
12:13, maybe the gubirds believe they are offering a service that benefits a certain type of player. They identify, sell, and then hope talent comes together. The way I see it they are working for themsleves true, but also for the talented players.
Maybe they wouldn't feel such necessity to recruit if other coaches actually DID care about players who might be better developmentally served in another environment, rather than simply caring about what the loss of a top player would do to their own team's W/L record.
12:49 - well put. The soccer landscape is evolving and just like human evolution it takes time. I'm sure Cro-Magnon man whined about being replaced by higher level homo sapiens. Thunder Academy/potential USSF Academy/SSM will slowly separate themselves from the balance of the youth soccer community. Those who want to come with come, those who wish to stay will stay. Hopefully all will be happy. It appears in reading some of the postings that there are a few Don Quixote's out there who always need their own personal windmill.
First off I am a parent. If someone thinks my child has ability at something and might benefit from something they have or do I would want them to come directly to me. Who knows what motives or agenda a current coach might have. It is my responsibility as the parent to make the decisions that best fit my child. I would be foolish to leave it up to others, whether she currently has a parent coach, CC coach, or a Club Coach. 1213, You sound like a coach who has lost players to another team. Your comment about the coaches not approving offends me as a parent. Who do they think they are to not approve whether someone would like to talk to me about my child. You would be just the coach not the parent. Heaven help any coach who would make that mistake. You seem to think the Teams leaders (coaches and Directors) are owed something. Well here it is! Thanks for everything you've done and have a great life. I think coaches who lose players take it way to hard and see it as a comment on their coaching when in fact it is mostly about the talent that is on their current team.
He who holds the player pass owns the player.
1:39 et al it never ends. The intentions and agenda of all other coaches is suspect for their agenda and motives. On the other hand, the agenda and motives of the Bangu people are above reproach and their methods are dictated by the bad behavior of others. Tired story and way worse to listen to than cc whining. Bangu is at best a glorified cc and in fact there of plenty of cc's with as much or more to brag of here. Elite to me is a higher level than they offer.
To the poster (s) referencing AAU basketball and all star hockey teams, elite dance teams . You are correct they have em and kids go to them. These teams do not play or compete against the programs from which they came end of story. So you are making a moronic comparison but hey, on here you are one of the smarter ones.
I've told this story before but once again it seems appropriate: Our family has experienced both sides...the CC and Wings and Bangu. For the oldest the decision to leave the cc was made for us when she was cut from the premier team. It was handled poorly but it was the best thing that could have happened. She was able to be offered a position on three higher ranked premier teams and continues to play in college. The brains behind the cc club was finally forced out of town. The next daughter left the same cc when the majority of her "home town" team purposely lost their last league game so they would be relegated. We were appalled! There were four players who then left and went to the Dark side! Best decisions we ever made.
me thinks the comparison had more to do with participants with comparable skills being grouped together to enhance development. i guess you can put me on the moronic side.
2:01 you are incorrect. I have a kid who plays for a community based AAU basketball team and she plays against All Star teams every weekend and at the regional qualifiers. All of these kids spend the winter playing in their traditional community traveling and HS programs. They then play against their winter teammates in the spring.
1:57 I hope you are not as ignorant as you post is. Tell me what CC has more to brag about, I am waiting on pins and needles for this one!! It amazes me how many people want to think that Bangu is not an elite club, if winning national championships is the barometer than we only have about 5-10 elite clubs in the country. If winning multiple state cups, sending competitive teams to regionals and having success on the national level is the barometer than Bangu is an elite club by every standard. Outside of petty jealous MN, Bangu is highly respected by other clubs, college coaches and the national staff. My guess is 1:57 has never seen or would know and elite team if it bit you in the face. So please tell me what CC's have to brag about at the elite level, and I will make a little harder for you because you cannot reference St Croix's Magnussens teams or Woodbury Inferno because those elite teams were all formed by recruiting the best kids in an age group to from regionally competitive teams, which ironically is OK for them because they are not Bangu yet if Bangu does it is it wrong and the worst thing you could do to soccer in MN.
Doors open, sling away!!!
What is funny is how people like 1:57 continue to run down the higher level clubs with statements like "Bangu is at best a glorified cc and in fact there of plenty of cc's with as much or more to brag of here. Elite to me is a higher level than they offer." So what level of club fits the bill? In Region 2 only Eclipse and the Michigan Hawks have stronger lineups from U14-U18 than Bangu does. Bangu is at the same level as Saint Louis SC, FC Milwaukee, Carmel, Internationals, etc. I am not sure what magic system you propose to give MN a club that would perennially be better than those clubs.
Can someone lay out the playoff brackets for the U17s? Looks like both Bangu eams are set but what are the other possinblities? If WDB is the wildcard that bumps them out of playing the Stars again, right? Then that would pit Bangu vs Bangu in the semis????
Seeing that the old site is no longer and we don't have somone to do it, I thougt I would go inside the numbers.
Club with Semi-Finalist to Date
Tonka 1- U13
Wings 1- U13
Wayzata 2- U14, U15
Northern Lights 1- U14
EP 1- U15
Coon Rapids 1- U15
White Bear 1- U17
Woodbury 2 U16, U17 (not final by any means but good assuption that they both will go through)
Bangu 8, 2 U13, 2 U14, 1 U15, 2 U17 (assuming the stars tie or beat Eagan) U18 Finalist
Seems to me that Bangu is still pretty healthy on the girls side!!
Barring a major upset the U17 semi's will look like this
Bangu Stars vs Bangu Select
Woodbury vs WBL
Select and WBL are in for sure, Woodbury should handle Tonka easly and the Stars need a tie or win to advance, can't see that not happening.
At U17 if Stars tie or defeat Eagan and if Eclipse defeats Tonka by 3-0 the semis would be Eclipse v White Bear and Bangu v Bangu. That is the most likely scenario although anything could happen.
I am curious about one thing. A familiar complaint is that Bangu takes the best cc kids and then uses them to "beat up" on the cc teams. I take it this is strictly a complaint from parents and coaches of younger teams? I don't believe any Bangu teams from U15 up play in MN at all except when required by state cup.
I hope your nose is in the door. I'm not 1:57, but if your defense of bang-u elitism is the best the powder blue can do, I would feel better about being at a cc. Your defense is that other teams that have done well have been recruited, so they don't count? Bangu is not an elite club unless you ask their leaders or the parents who pay them (cha-ching!)(which are you?), or if you enjoy the so-called soccer experts at NSR (any gu parents among the ranking specialists?!) Winning a bunch of MN State Cups does not make you an elite club in the same way that winning a bunch of North Dakota, Iowa or South Dakota (ie. Dakota Gold - often good, but not elite). Winning a bunch of regional titles (how many does non-Storlein bangu (his national-caliber team was not a bangu-bred team)have: 1? 2?)would seem a reasonable benchmark. MN is not elite in soccer. Blimey MN soccer self-proclaimed soccer gurus: Arrogant, naive and rather sad you are, actually.
Your point is well taken. But if granted then you apparently also are saying that Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, Missouri, Kansas and others are not "elite" either. That may be true. MN record at regions equals or surpasses any of them. You can name call all you want but please check the facts first.
243, Good point. I'm pretty sure this what their younger girls teams do.
Bangu U14 plays MRL, U15 Premier
Bangu U13 play U14 Premier
Bangu U12 Blues play U13 league
Bangu U11 Blue plays Tournament only. Plays U12 at all tournaments except the big 3 (NSC, USA, Walmart)
Bangu U11 White Plays age group
Bangu U10 Blue plays up at Tournaments like U11 Blue.
Bangu U9 has two teams not sure what they play. I think they play age group but not sure maybe U10 in tournaments.
Basically the kids play tournament only and a lot play up against older teams. When they hit U12 they play league as U13.
This endless back and forth is delightful. Here is the question: if everything is great, we have an elite club delivering us to apparently national prominence, why do we need the Thunder merger? Why when Wayzata and Wings propose something new are they viciously attacked by Bangu people? Oh, I know it is the underhanded doings of DOC's, coaches and parent thugs masquerading as CC volunteers.
3:08 - where and when were all the Wings/Wayzata attacks?
2:53 - Disney Showcase, Las Vegas Showcase, PDA Showcase, Nike Manchester Classic in Portland.....yes, they have become an elite club and acceptance into these tournaments in many ways confirms that. Who or what is a soccer expert anyway - someone who agrees with you?
MN currently has 3 girls (4 if you inlcude the SSM girl) in national pools. Maybe not Cal, Texas, or FL, but better than probably 40 other states.
and now for something completely different........here's hoping the weather holds up, everyone stays healthy, and there is lots of great soccer this weekend! Good luck to all the girls!
2:53 Remember to take your medication!! Bangu is the Elite Soccer Club in Minnesota. You can argue all you want whether or not they truly are Elite. They are the 19th ranked girls club in the country. They have many teams ranked in several ranking forums, they win and do well at regional and national tournaments. They are a Nike Premier club. You have all these out of state indictators pointing to being an elite club vs. your opinion based on Um... HATRED!! Yes take some more medication! I'm sure your kid would be welcome if they had truly elite talent. Hope to see you at tryouts!! Don't forget your medication!!
2007 regional results
MN 12-5-3
Ohio (N&S) 17-18-3
MO 15-6-1
IN 10-5-5
WI 10-9-4
258 is absolutely right. It is very true that MN may not be an elite soccer state, but it is every bit as strong as other states in the region with comparable populations and will only continue to improve now that there is more pooling of players going on than 5 years ago. It all depends on the definition of elite. IL,MI,CA,TX and a few others are at one level. Then there is everyone else.
308, Many other clubs are evolving to the next level through mergers with other clubs and Pro soccer affiliations. Either evolve or become extinct or irrelevant. Take you choice.
Sunday should be fun with the semi finals taking place.
Go out, spend the day and enjoy soccer.
Here's the games I would watch...
9:30 Bangu White and Wayzata - U14
Noon Eden Prairie Wayzata - U15
2:30 Either of the U16 semi final games - ? vs ?
5:00 The Bangu vs Bangu game - not officially set, but most likey match up
7:00 the U18 finals
If you don't think the cc's see their players as possessions check with WH. Don't only sling mud at MA.
If you think the #1 priority is player development you are nuts.Won/lost records sell.
Soccer in MN is a business.
Let's all leave over already. Elite is relative. Is Bangu/will Thunder be elite here in MN? Of course they will. Will they be elite regionally/nationally? Maybe. I applaud them for trying to do something for talented players that CCs nor MYSA can possibly do.
And Thunder is not "better" than any other CC that strives to provide a community service for thousands of members.
Does MN, in the best interest of our high potential players, need to try and put them on equal footing with other top players from other states. Isn't that what's fair to the kids involved?
Lastly, educate your kids people - trophies are nice but they don't make champions.
Bangu does not make money off the players. The coaches make a competitive salary, especially when you consider they coach for 7-8 months of the year. They have one paid position in the club. Thus, bangu does not follow the money as some have said. I can't speak for the academy level, but in my three tests with the club, making money has never driven the coach. That argument Is baseless.
8:23
If it is not about the money why not do it for free? There are alot of coaches at all levels (including C1 and above) that do it for the pleasure of passing on there passion for the game onto the players.
They don't do it for free because it's their job. That why they're called "professional" coaches. Why don't you do your job for free?
Someone earlier asked why a Bangu/Thunder merger...
One of the reasons for the Thunder/Bangu merger is that in the future the Thunder will be offering more scholarship funds to the top 15-17 year old teams who have large travel expenses going to college search tournaments etc.
Another reason is to have access to knowledgeable soccer minds like Buzz Lagos, Manny Lagos and Amos Magee.
From what I've heard the Thunder merger virtually guarantees a USSF Academy designation for the club in 2009 or 2010. SSM will probably get in too as the USSF wants 2 clubs so when teams travel to Minnesota they get in more than 1 match.
And to top it off the youth teams will have access to state of the art soccer facility that will be built in St Paul that will include stadium field, 3 ptraining pitches, residential dorms for USSF Academy teams, weight training facility etc.
Any other questions why Bangu may be interested in signing up for a merger?
Days of the same argument back and forth. Remember folks there are 80,000 kids in Mn playing soccer, 79,900 don't care a bit what the pathetic individuals who spend their life blogging about a kid's game think. (I include myself so no need to point that out) So, go down to the local Legion Club and remember the good ole days when you were in high school so you take less time living through your children. Peace!
There's a huge difference between doing it for the money and receiving compensation for the time and effort that it takes to organize and manage a team at an elite level. I don't know too many people who can live off of $6,500 a year.
Warning! Bangu parent commentary ahead!
And now for something completely different - a discussion/report on a state cup game last night. In a key battle in the U16 pool, Bangu matched up with PSA. These are two of the likely would-be challengers to the powerful Woodbury Inferno club that is waltzing through their pool games.
It was a very fun game to watch - evenly matched, high intensity, fans excited, but well-behaved. Bangu probably had a little better of the run of play throughout the game (I don't track stats, but I'm guessing corners were maybe 8-3 or so, SOG more even), but as has often been their problem this Spring, they had difficulty converting their ball possession game into quality chances. Kudos to PSA and especially their back 4 - tough, tenacious defenders that made very few mistakes under a fair amount of pressure. To be fair, PSA had several quality chances, including maybe the best chance in the first half, but it ended scoreless and I would say pretty evenly played.
In the second half Bangu increased their ball control/time of possession, but again was unable to convert anything. For the most part PSA was held in check with really no solid second half chances until a counter-attack with about 3 minutes remaining. Bangu misplayed a clearing attempt (under pressure), PSA player nicely gathered it in on the run and turned the corner at the end line, seam pass to the 6, one touch, banged in. Pretty goal, nicely converted, 1-0 PSA. 3 more desperate minutes for Bangu, but really no more chances, game over. Congratulations to PSA, a well played, hard fought, fairly earned win. Good luck in the semi's and hopefully against the big, bad Inferno in the finals.
Sounds like you just described a common MN teenage girls soccer game. 1-0 on a counter.
yep, push-possess-push-possess-counter-lose.
An effective in-state strategy, but usually a recipe for disaster out-of-state against top notch teams.
Au contraire, 10:33. I think their style of play can be and has been very effective. You may have read too much into my description of the way the game went and determined that they were a less skilled team employing a boot'n scoot style or strategy. They certainly played a slightly more direct style than we did in the last game. But it was played skillfully and is certainly not a "recipe for disaster". Their performance in the MRL shows that they can and do represent the state of MN well.
Okay, enough defending PSA. If I keep that up I'll ruin the caricature of Bangu parents that many of you hold so dear. Wouldn't want to spoil your fun.
VoR, thanks for returning this discussion to State Cup.
How does PSA match up against "big, bad Inferno"?
VoR - au contraire to your au contraire. I follow this age group and I'm trying to come up with out of state successes for PSA (against any regionally ranked teams - let alone the teams they might face at regionals).
11:42 - Well first of all, PSA would have to get by a strong St. Croix team in the semis. If they do that, I think BBI (Big Bad Inferno) would have to be the heavy favorite in the finals. PSA has been in the same pool as BBI the past few years. I haven't seen the games because we were playing at the same time, but the scores were close - 1-0 last year. I would predict a similar result this year.
12:11 - I think perhaps just a miscommunication. I'll try and clarify. First, I don't think PSA will win the state cup. Second, if they did, I don't think they'll be successful against top teams in the region. All I was saying is that their success or lack of it will have nothing to do with their style of play or strategy, as you implied. They just don't have the aggregation of talent that those teams do (nor do we). BBI is closer and would compete well against almost any team in our region. But I don't think it would be disastrous results if PSA were at regions - they're better than that.
Wow, the last post was 666
It appears that some teams are not progressing, although they have talent, because kids are involved in several sports at the same time during the central part of the soccer season. Do you think this hinders the teams or adds a value?
My predictions for tomorrow:
Bangu U12 over Tonka
Bangu U13 over Wings
Bangu U14 White over Wayzata
Bangu U14 wins also
Okay Bangu lets have a big celebration after all the wins at the semis - good luck to all.
The prom dilemma strikes again at the U17 games today. Funny to see girls leaving at half or even teams playing short. Would be nice to have a state cup tourney when all teams are at full strength.
WDB was awesome, Stars kicked it into gear, Wings rocked but WBL will prevail and Select played nice. Too bad the two Goo teams will face off in semis...should have kept the wildcard in Stars bracket.
To Anon 7:40 - Are you referring to track?
lecross, track, tennis, golf all run this time of year
Speaking of track...Congrats to all the girls who participated in True Team last night and then came to play today!!!
740 - no doubt hinders. Obviously, your DD is participating in another sport and you want confirmation that it is okay. Not so. We even have a girl on our team who intends on running a track meet the same day as the state cup finals. Get your priorities straight or don't complain when your DD doesn't make the team next year.
OMG....Woodbury parents were like a bunch of yapping terriers.Yapping at every call.Thought I was at the dog pound.
Have a kid that plays AAU bball and runs track while being a starter on a premier soccer team. It can be done IF the child wants to keep options open. It's tricky but for those who have the talent and ability to manage time, it can work. Funny how college coaches like multiple sport athletes and club soccer coaches don't.
Who are these college coaches and at what level?
I agree. Have one playing D2 and another to play D1 soon. Coaches were pleased with their participation in bball and/or track, especially wih state qualifying times and teams and strong academics. If you are good at time management it can be done.
We should have crowned the champions by now, but because of the weather, there we are at semi final day.
Predictions?
Here's mine...
U13
Winners Bangu Blue - Tonka
U14 Winners
Bangu Blue - Wayzata
U15
Bangu - Eden Prairie
U16
Woodbury PSA
U17
Bangu (Stars) - White Bear
U18 Champions - Bangu
Talked with several college coaches before committing. None, that is zero, cared one whit whether you played one or two or three sports. It doesn't matter. They all were very interested in academic performance.
My son was recruited by several D1schools for track and also soccer. By telling you that many of you may know who I am.
The soccer coaches at all of the D1schools recruiting him wanted him to be a full time soccer player. Not a soccer player and a track guy.
I can't speak for every school but I can for at least half a dozen.
State cup results
U13
Bangu Blue 1 - Wings 0
Bangu 12s 2 - Tonka 1 - shootout
U14
Bangu BLue 7 - Northern Lights 1
Bangu White 2 - Wayzata 1 - Overtime
Good day for the Goo Girls...wins by 12 Blue (Shoot out over Tonka), 13 Blue, 14 Blue, and 14 White (OT over Wayzata), and 15s won as well.
Tonka got robbed from what I saw.
One of the 12s took a dive in the box in the closing seconds and the refs gave the goos a PK. They scored on the PK, then the ref called the game putting it into overtime and then PKs, which the goos won.
opinions on the 13 blue game?
wings put up a hard battle from what i saw.
1232, Your giving an 11 year old maybe 12 a lot of credit for taking a dive. Actually I'm pretty sure the Bangu player never hit the dirt so how can it be a dive? The Tonka player played the body in the box and not the ball. It looked like a hockey check to me. It wasn't nearly as bad a foul as the one the ref missed about 10 minutes earlier in the box when the bangu player was going to net and the Tonka player laid her out without going to the ball. The bangu player had a clear path to the net. They were lucky not to get called on that foul also. Neither team played their best game. It was pretty windy which hurts play.
Hmmm...bangu parents, wonder who 116 is? Could it be JS? Don't take the bait.
U15 Results
Bangu 2 Coon Rapids 0
Eden Prairie 3 Wayzata 0
127 = AK
247, Wrong.
If it was AK, congrats. The team you coached last year, and your team this year in the championship game. Well done!
U16 results
Woodbury 5 Blackhawks 0
PSA 3 St. Croix 1
An 143: Who is JS????
12:32, I didn't see the game. However, bad call on the pk or not, wouldn't have mattered if your 13s put more goals in against the little 12s in the 69 minutes prior to that.
Maybe you should propose a rule change at the next AGM banning refs from whistling pk calls in the final minutes of all semifinal state cup games. Your club has a nice history of truly useful rule proposals.
Any predictions for the final against Bangu and EP U-15 girls?
U17s:
Bangu Select strikes first in beginning of first half. Stars even things out at end of half. Games stands at 1-1.
EP-BNG tied 1-1 a few weeks ago, don't know any details of the game, but obviously two evenly matched teams.
u17 updates?
Bangu Stars 2-1 over Bangu Select.
WBL over WDB 1-0
Final predictions anyone?
U13 Bangu Blue vs Bangu 12s
U14 Bangu Blue vs White
U15 Bangu vs Eden Prairie
U16 Woodbury vs PSA
U17 Bangu vs White Bear
U18 Bangu vs North Metro
U17s: Good game! Stars showed ability to tackle good competition. Great patience by Stars and just strong all around. Stars are solid at every position, Select has a few weaknesses.Great effort by Select defense and GK, hats off to you! Bangu should be happy with the performance of both teams. Congrats to Stars!
U18 Championship
Bangu 1 - North Metro 0
Congratulations to the first champion crowned this year.
Stars stars stars 9:49 can we work stars in one more time? Let's hear from everyone about out of control parents on this screed. We see lots directed at the younger kids parents on here. Oh, by the way stars!
Best story ot tourney so far has to be WBL at U17. Took down the supposed #2 team in state in Wings 3-0 and is in the finals after a well deserved win over WDB yesterday. Congrats to WBL. It should be an interesting final against Bangu Blue. Out of compassion for 737 I didn't use the other name. :)
Inferno looks like they will go virtually unchallenged. There is enough talent at this age to form annother solid team, possibly two. At this time it is scattered though and Inferno is at least 3 goals better than everyone else. PSA will need to bunker in and hope for a break to pull the game out.
I am surprised at how close the U18 final was. The consensus seemed to be that Bangu Blue would win easily. Anyone see the game?
The U18 final was played virtually all in North Metro's end. I think they had one shot on goal? I thought that Bangu played pretty nice soccer and had some opportunities that were left unfinished. North metro defended well and had two gk's put up nice performances. The score is not a reflection of how close, or far, these teams are from each other.
Both of the U18 girls teams are going to Regions. North Metro gets the wild card slot. The game didn't matter much given the situation.
Bangu sat a few key players who were dinged up. They didn't play a minute. Hopefully those kids will be healthy by the time Rockford rolls around.
Good luck to both of these teams at Rockford.
I would like to hear more about the WBL v WDB game. How does a C1 team who struggled to win one game in premier last season get to the final in State Cup this year? Are the teams at U17 overrated?
The U17 WBL team has a new (?) 8th grade attacker. I believe she is also a multi sport athlete in high school.
Doesn't explain their success so far. She is a good player but does not play D and WBL has yet to yield a goal. They are a very solid defensive team which is what has them where they are.
Champion predictions...
U13 - Bangu Blue
U14 - Bangu Blue
U15 - Bangu
U16 - Woodbury
U17 - Dare I say it, Stars
U19 - St. Croix
I think the fix is in. I watched part of both U13 games yesterday and the refs handed both games to the Bangu teams.
In the Bangu Wings game, there was a questionable offside call that stopped a sure goal. The flag seemed to come up once it was clear the Wings would score. Also, there was a goal that was never called. The ball appeared to go in, the sideline erupted and the next thing you know, the goalie threw the ball to a Bangu player and the play continued. There were a lot of confused faces, on and off the field, after that one.
In the other game, I agree that the call at the end of the game that gave the 12s a PK was questionable. From what I understand, the game should have been over several minutes before that call. The PK tied the game sending to overtime and eventually a shootout.
It seems the refs were told to make the sure the goos advance.
9:52
Wow...watch out for the black helicopters.
I'll bet you were a big X-Files fan.
952 - i bet the bangu girls were in on it too. i am sure that it had been rehersed zillions of times before the semi final game. wow - get over it and move on! congrats bangu!
952, I'll take some of whatever you are smokin:)
It's quite sad when accusations are that the referees were instructed to help a team or club win.
You people really need to get a life.
I've reffed soccer over 20 years and just have to laugh at that comment because if I didn't I'd cry.
We have now added referee influencing to Bangu's long list of issues, whats next, they were behing the assasination of JFK!!
952 - don't let your jealousy impair your judgement!
952- Sounds like a Tonka Parent to me. Maybe a couple sessions of Therapy to get over the loss to a U12 team will help the grieving process.
Where did WBL's 8th grade attacker play last year? I assume she did not play previously for their current U14 team since I never saw anyone that outstanding on that team in the past.
No 11:51, it won't be therapy that will help them cope. It will be a rule change so that no more 12 teams cam play in state cup, even if they're registered as a 13 team.
Watched a half of the WDBY WBL and Select Stars games. Obsevations.
These teams need to get offensive co-ordinators.
Too much dribbling while players stood and watched.
You could count the one touch passes on one hand.
The players played hard but need more emphasis on field awareness and anticipation.
Expected to see a little higher quality of play from semi teams at the u17 level.
LOL
12:32 A rule change so your team doesn't have to get beaten by a team a year younger.
This is the State Cup, what is supposed to be our best teams. Lets get protectionistic to make sure our team doesnt have to get beat up by the little girls at U-12.
I am NOT a Bangu fan, I believe firmly in quality Community Clubs, but really the U-12 teams should NOT be your concern. If a U-12 team wins State Cup it seems it is an indication of a weakness at the U-13 age group.
Protectionism doesn't work. You should have been thrilled to be in an Age group with a theoretically weaker U-12 team.
What does the "U" stand for? UNDER!
Just a guess 213, but I think 1232 was being facetious...
With the history of Tonka, you can never be sure.....
3:17 Sorry, I read it literally. My mistake, just pretty tired of the U-12 talk. I mean the negative playing up discussion. My opinion it is a waste of breath, Let em play.
Understood and agreed.
Amusing quotes from a Bangu coach on his site. 1) "Big kudos for the White team to come out and play them straight up. It took them till stoppage time to get the winner and even then the White team was not bunkering it in" and 2) "No kudos to North Metro in the U18 final. I can understand bunkering in but when you are down by 1 goal late in the game and you still keep 8 players behind the ball and never attack why not go for the tie? " Hmmmm.... I saw all of one game and most of the other and both the Bangu Select team and North Metro were bunkered up tight and rarely if ever possessed the ball outside of their half of the field. Only a Bangu coach could see his clubs' team as playing straight up and another clubs team as bunkering.
3:57, just shows you don't know anything about soccer, bunkering in and being outplayed are two different things. Bangu Select played with 3 forwards the entire game, those players seldom defended. They were just outplayed by a better team in the second half going against the win. North Metro had 8 players behind the ball the entire game and those players never went forward. If i am not mistaken Select actaully scored a goal, NM had one good shot and non in the second half.
Duck 357 they will come after you!
4:12 - great comment. Maybe next time before you tell them to "duck" you might want to recommend to one of your friends not to fire first. Classic response from a hater.
what coaches site are your referencing?
What I love is how quiet the haters are, especially the ones who said Bangu was losing its shine and heading for a demise. It must really get your undies in a bunch when you see 12 Bangu teams in the state cup finals.
this one...
http://www.gosportslife.com/mn-girls-soccer-blog-2/
The comment on the other blog questions the "bunkering down" strategy when down by a goal later in the match.
Read a little more closely before launching into a situation where you end up with foot in mouth.
If you can't beat em on the fields, beat em on the blogs.
MTKA U17G....the ladies were outscored 29 to 1. Do you think anything good was accomplished for this team to play in the tournament.It was painful just to watch.Who made the decision for them to play in state cup and what did they think the benefits would be.
Maybe the cc's should have their own division.
This type of situation isn't good for anybody.
No kudos for tonka?
EP Will Beat Bangu in the U-15 Girls Final.
My prediction: 3-0 EP!
Two games last night, both closer than expected. Underdog in each game has 1-2 SOG. One team is praised for a valiant effort. One is derided for "bunkering". And so it goes.
WHAT A BUNCH OF CRY BABIES IN HERE. Does coming into an online blog an anonymously bad mouthing ssm, bangu, ma, cc's, or anyone else for that matter really make anyone feel any better.
Its nice to see so many know it all experts just lurking in the shadows, its a wonder we haven't won the world cup yet eh?
What happened at the U13 semi's on Sunday?
Why assume the U17 group is overrated because WBL makes the final? Stars compete well nationally, Wings has been slowly moving up in MRL Premier, Eclipse has done well regionally. and EP is solid. Bangu Select played the Stars tough, and they and WBL were relegated last year. Maybe the MYSA Premier div. is tough?
Also, the WBL 8th grade striker plays 8th grade travel basketball in winter.
I'm pulling for EP at U15.
Hisham was my daughter's most favorite coach and I have known him since he arrived here. I have a great deal of respect for him. The players on his team seem to be a great bunch of kids.....they laugh at my jokes so that makes them ok in my book.
So my prediction is based on my personal biases and nothing else.
EP 2 Bangu 1 in regulation.
Before you read this let me appologize in advance as I realize this has no relevance to State Cup. This thread just seems to have the most active group of participants.
Does anyone know anything about the newly formed, or to be formed "Minnesota Premier Soccer League"? What clubs/teams are going to participate? It looks like this is predominantly a 12 and under league for the fall only, correct? Will it run at the same time as MYSA fall soccer?
I am looking for info beyond what their web site gives, like what Clubs/teams are going to participate?
Thanks for any info.
1051,
I don't think anyone is going to respond the way you want - praising your 12-year-olds for their accomplishment.
If you really want to know results, see earlier results posts or follow the link on the front page of this blog.
1051, 2 teams won and 2 teams lost.
Actually one team lost and one team tied and was eliminated on Pk's.
1233, Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that still a loss.
Outside MN.....yes, inside Mn depends on your prospective. They are only 13, should we really keep score? Who's turn was it to bring the treats?
U17s: Unique situation in last year's Premier league. Many games compressed to a short season. Lots of injuries for certain teams and no time to recover lead to poor records and relegation. All depends on who is healthy. Perfect example is Select.Their goalie has been injured two years in a row. Finding last minute replacement in new players or moving up younger players was common last year.
I think a real good case study regarding playing up to the highest level in MN is going on right now.
The Bangu Blue(?) U-13 team playing 14P is struggling big in league play so far this year. 0-3. They have done very well against their own age as can be seen with their State Cup record.
I am asking, I am interested in opinions , Are these girls getting better development of their individual and team skills by playing up to 14P or would they have been better served foregoing the Premier spot that they clearly earned, and play u-13 C1 or even U14C1 vs premier.
I can honestly understand the U-12 play up senerio (moving to the bigger field) more than the play up and get smoked every game situation the Bangu14P team is now in. If they continue at this pace they will lose their premier spot and the kids would have lost a year of competitive play and possibly a chance at a MYSA State title.
Looking for theories on this.
Thanks.
Speaking of the older groups, where are all the 18s headed for school and who has committed for the 17s? Is there a list anywhere?
To see commitments for 2008, http://www.soccerbuzz.com/recruits/2008recruits.htm will let you see where all players across the US. You will be able to sort the list as to your liking - by club, state, hometown, position, etc.
Tired of all the 12's playing 13 jabbering. I am for each team and club making their own choices. When made, stop the "hedging" if the playup team wins endless father chest beating, if they lose it's "we did great condsidering the other team is a year older..." How about a team is what they register and play at? The WBL 17 team apparently has an 8th grader can we call them a u-14 playup team? How many players a year young for their team does it take to be a play up? Make the best choice each year for your child, pay your fess and shut up anfd let the coaches coach and the kids paly!
1:17 I can see you are tired of it . I am trying to understand what some long time soccer minds with good soccer background think works best.
There are more and more entire teams (not a few random individuals) taking this approach.
Like I said, I understand the logic of the U-12's (bigger field) but what about beyond that?
I also agree that the "we played great considering..." is a joke. Play where you sign up and live with it.
I agree also with your thought on "making the best choice for each child each year"
Our club is contemplating the "play up" issue and I was hoping to get info to help me do exactly what you said. I didn't grow up playing soccer but my kids love it and happily are finding good success.
For the 09s that have verballed..
go to bigsoccer.com
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=poknaL_RaORDOMcyz_riBDA&gid=0
You can check by club, college etc. This guy has done a outstanding job with it.
10s dad
1:04,
First of all, I will admit to being a Bangu parent, but not a parent of a player on the team you’re talking about.
The only flaw in your comment is "getting smoked." That team did get dominated (5-0) in one game, but losing 2-1 and 2-0 is hardly "getting smoked". I’d like to have seen those games to comment further, but you can’t make any harsh judgments without having watched the games.
Three games is not a whole season, especially when a team is concentrating on state cup (which is an assumption on my part based on knowing the importance Bangu puts on state cup).
Let's see how the season plays out before jumping to any conclusions. Besides, I don’t think the club is too worried about results in the U14P league for that team. As I understand, it’s off to MWRL for them next year.
As far as that team playing up, that's their choice. They earned the spot, they're using the spot.
Playing up. IMHO If it is a better idea then let's lobby to just play 11 v 11 at 12. I am still of the opinion it is a way to 1: recruit more kids to a specific team at an earlier age, 2: done by others to counter losing their players as it really, as you can see from the endless nauseating posts, feeds the egos of parents. The idea of playing 8 v 8 at 12 while certainly debateable did not come from a conspiricy to keep clubs equal or any of the other black helicoptor stuff you hear. I agree with the earlier posters too, you play where you play and shut up about it. Also to the poster who posits that Bangu doesn't care about the record of the 14 premier team, if they were 3-0 would they? Don't take us all for fools.
2:03 or should i say u13 parent,
going off to mwrl is the way to make it all better. i am sure most kids would jump ship if they the girls and parents were relegated. you keep telling yourself that it doesn't matter that they have lost 3 games already and they still play those same teams again. good luck holding that premier spot. oh never mind it doens't matter, right?
2:51,
But you are fools (if you're a bangu person).
Our oldest learned to play 11 v 11 on a full field at age 6 !!! Our youngest, a u13 , is just offically starting on a full field. Six may be too young, but 13 is really too old . Every tournament I attend, I'm shocked to see some kids, who've cleary gone through puberty, still playing little kid soccer. That's just silly. I'm interested to know if other sports (basketball, hockey, etc) adjust the field of play and roster size .
This is incredible.
There are finals tonight at 15, 16 and 17 and you're rehashing a tired argument that has been commented to death?
Everyone keep crying. Bangu has proved their dominance in MN soccer and it's only going to get worse for all the haters when the top club's vision is now fully supported by the state's professional team. What a bunch of complainers. You guys are like that Rob Bake guy from MU. Recruited a kid to his Jedi team, the kid went to Bangu, and now this cry baby has sent all the teams in state cup an anonymous letter (though we all know who sent it) crying foul and that this kid should not be able to participate because he's really too old. This is typical. Try to be Bangu then work your hardest and dirtiest to stop them. Real class act representing his club well.
That's a big accusation to make. It is nice to hear "hater" once per day though. Bangu certainly is dominant I've met noone who says other. The rest is the endless cycle of back and forth which will not end. This is the essential thing to know, winning does not make right. Not all concerns or ctiticisms are borne of jealousy or hate. There are problems with the manner in which things are right now. To deny it will just continue it.
U15 final....EP 1 - Bangu 2.
Congrats to the new U15 State Cup Champs.
U17 result posted on site:
BNG 1 WBL 0
Congrats to Stars!
mnfutbol, 523's post should be deleted.
So Bangu will match their total of 5 campions this year.
Hate 'em or not, that's a pretty good result.
Any reports on the U15 game?
Looks like it was as close as predicted.
For the U15 game, Bangu had the better of the play, but EP were a little more dangerous. The game was won on an own-goal, which is unfortunate. The Bangu GK made a great save at the end of the game. Well done by both teams playing on a field not worthy of a State Cup final, with a referee whom I don't have much positive to say about, and who have quality coaches leading their squads.
Was the U16 final last night?
13s, 14 and 16s play tonight
7:43 - agree completely with your field & officiating comments. Great effort from both sides by two equal teams with different styles. It was a shame either of them had to lose.
What I love is people like 5:57 who come on here and say things like,
"There are problems with the manner in which things are right now. To deny it will just continue it."
What problems are there in your opinion, because I don't think the Bangu people see to many problems right now. Please enlighten us with your expert "opinion" on how things should be fixed.
I had the opportunity to visit with a few top level coaches from Bangu over the last few weeks at State Cup and I don't think the future has ever been brighter for the Bangu club.
The merger with the new ownership and management group of the Thunder sounds like a great move for all parties involved.
The Bangu teams now have access to the Thunder pro staff and coaches as well as improved field access at NSC and in the future to the new complex in St Paul including stadium field, training pitches and the Academy dorms and workout facilities.
The Thunder management supposedly will be contributing to the club's scholarship fund to reduce the costs of the age groups traveling to top level out of state tournaments and college showcases.
Also the apparent entry into the USSF Academy program in 2009 or 2010 is another bonus enhanced by the merger with the Thunder.
The leadership of that club had a vision and hasn't wavered in pursuing it. I commend them for their pusuit of improving the level of youth soccer in Minnesota.
While all is not perfect in any club or organization Bangu/Thunder Academy continues to work to improve the opportunities for the top players in the state.
9:01 Go look in the mirror, take a deep breath and you'll see. Your attitude is one part. Start there and work outward.
In other words 922 can't come up with anything.
Did anyone see the Bangu v WBL U17 game. Only a 1-0 win ?
Ah yes another great response, I did look in the mirror this morning and all I saw was a five o clock shadow and a big smile on my face. What did you see?? I would take a guess it was a big chip on your shoulder!!
Ah yes another great response, I did look in the mirror this morning and all I saw was a five o clock shadow and a big smile on my face. What did you see?? I would take a guess it was a big chip on your shoulder!!
It was very similar to the Bangu-NMT U18 game. Both games were very one sided. Both Bangu teams seem very good at creating scoring opportunities but are not very good at finishing them.
The U17 final was a very good game, probably the best performence by the Stars in state cup. They controlled the entire game and did not give up a shot on goal,(they did give up a few shots but nothing on target) WBL played very well defensively and there GK played extremely well. The game was not as close as the score but still a very competitive match. My hats of to WBL, they are a much improved team with some very solid players, just not enough weapons to really threaten the Stars.
Thanks for the links on commitments and verbals! I agree,
10s Dad, nice site! Heard there were some new verbals from '09 WDB, WNGS and Select and was looking for those but they're not up yet. Nice to hear that so many local girls will be playing competitive soccer!
I doubt mnfutbol will delete 5:23. It doesn't shed negative light on players/kids. Besides, most already assumed the same on who sent the letter.
9:21 Congratulations to you, MA and all of the successful Bangu teams. Your club has realized significant success and for that you are congratulated.
If you read your post from a neutral point of view however, I think you will understand why many are disgusted with the Tactics and Actions of your clubs membership.
The "wind blows hardest at the top of the mountain" and you are currently the club on top (relating to wins).
Your won/loss record speaks for itself, a post like the one you put forth only deepens the dislike many have for the format your club works under (non community based).
I am aware of several other clubs who have shown significant growth and have added significant expansion of the training opportunities they provide. I could be wrong, but I rarely if ever have seen them posting about all of the great things these clubs are doing.
It is great that you are so proud of your clubs success. I am not sure if you think this type of bragging will move recruits your way, or if you are just trying to get under the skin of some on this board, whatever the reason it would seem you taking away from the great performances of your clubs State Cup teams.
why have a website if you can't show what your team/club has done. i know i would look to a website for the accomplishments of a age group. what a great tool for parents that are looking for more for their child. i don't look at is as bragging. we the parents and the coach/club should be proud of the kids and what they have done. great for grandparents in other states to check out as well.
1:48 Don't you have a team web page? I can't imagine having Grandma and Grandpa checking out this site.
not checking out this. checking out the team web page.
Bangu 12's beat Bangu 13's 2-1 at U13
Bangu Blue beats Bangu White 1-0 at U14
both went to shootouts
Both games went to pk's. Great effort by all 4 teams. 13's controlled it, but could only get 1 past the 12 GK.
Surprised that U14 went to PK's. Did not see the game but understand that while Blue had the better of play they did not dominate.
14G game was a close one. Both goalies had one great save. Both team are very talented and unfortunately one has to win. The shoot out actually went to sudden death.
For the 13's - is this considered an upset or just Bangu beating Bangu?
U16s: Inferno 3, PSA 0
Some games too close for comfort but we are sending all of our best teams to regionals from U14-U18 where it matters most. MN should be able to achieve results as good as last years 12-5-3 record and hopefully better.
With the chaos of State Cup behind, let's now get behind all the MN teams and wish our local players the best this June in Rockford. The games are done. Let the mudslinging end with it and let the preparation begin for the teams that continue on.
Congrats to all the competitors who participated. It's exciting to see the current level of play in our state.
Thanks to the Coon Rapids Soccer Club for the use of their complex again this year.
Thanks to all the MYSA staff for doing their best with our crappy spring weather.
Thanks to mnfutbol for providing this forum for all of us wackos interested.
Can anyone recommend some interesting and active soccer forums similar to D3Kicks for DI level? Are there any?
big soccer
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