Similar to last year, 10-12 teams have a chance to win state at AA and A. Many good teams but no dominant team that will steam roll into state. This should be one of the most competitive tournaments is quite some time.
Section brackets:
Section 1: A -- AA
Section 2: A -- AA
Section 3: A -- AA
Section 4: A -- AA
Section 5: A -- AA
Section 6: A -- AA
Section 7: A -- AA
Section 8: A -- AA
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1 – 200 of 1137 Newer› Newest»Great work on putting this together Blogmaster. Thanks.
Yes kudos to this well organized format and certainly confirm the statement that several teams could go all the way in wide open year in both classes. Several teams have excellent defenses as shown by Minnesota sports on line stats and solid play by goalies and defenders leave alot of games tossups. The importance of scoring first even more important this years tournament in evolving game strategy and team alignment. And of course the team execution under added pressure in overtime and shootouts makes for exciting and sometimes unexpected conclusions.
Blogmaster - You have our thanks for all the work you do!
This is going to be a great hunt for the 8 state championship slots.
6AA Predictions
Armstrong 4 - Cooper 0
Wayzata 2 - Southwest 0
Hopkins 2 - St. Louis Park 1
South 3 - Buffalo 0
Can Osseo come out of 5AA? Clearly they should, but they usually fall apart in the play-offs. Can they do it this year? The rest of the section are boring teams. Park Center is set to play them as a 1-4 matchup. Both have crappy D. High scores?
Wet day like this can create some interesting scores.
Link to Section 1AA is not correct. It's going to 2A Football.
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/showxmlbrackets.asp?tournid=46&bracket=4679
Section games to watch Tuesday 10/7
Class AA - Section 2 Boys Soccer
Minnetonka vs. Edina | 5:00 PM at Edina
Chaska vs. Prior Lake | 5:00 PM at Prior Lake
Class AA - Section 3 Boys Soccer
Burnsville vs. Park of Cottage Grove | 7:00 PM at Park of Cottage Grove
Class AA - Section 5 Boys Soccer
Centennial vs. Park Center | 7:00 PM at Park Center
Maple Grove vs. Spring Lake Park | 5:00 PM at Maple Grove
Class AA - Section 6 Boys Soccer
Hopkins vs. St. Louis Park | 5:00 PM at St. Louis Park
Mpls Southwest vs. Wayzata | 5:00 PM at Wayzata
South 4 Buffalo 0
Hopkins 1 SLP 1
(SLP wins in PK's 5 to 4)
MG 2 SLP 1.
Rain makes for an ugly game. MG forwards had severak chances. Score should have been 5-2.
watch out for South,capable of winning it all{neutral}
South absolutely creamed Armstrong their last game before sections. Armstrong who beat Edina, BJ, Wayzata, Osseo and Minnetonka.
If they are in fact peaking right now, they could be tough to handle. Unfortunately their keeper is the Achilies heal. It will be interesting for them.
South/SLP will test them both,should be a good game.
I don't think SLP is all that good. Not bad, but not like South. They don't have some of the weapons.
How bad/how big of a joke is single A soccer?
Anon 8:56 :
I can't completely disagree with your statement, but I will argue that AA soccer is just as big of a joke. I mean were talking about MN high school soccer here.
**I would take TG against most if not all AA teams on any given day
Section 2AA
Eden Praire 1 Shakopee 0
Chaska 2 Prior Lake 0
Edina 2 Mtonka 0
Jefferson 3 Kennedy 0
Ep vs Chaska
Jefferson vs Edina
Wayzata 2 SW 0
Armstrong 1 Cooper 0
Osseo 7 Mounds View 0
Remember the teams that defend well will be playing in the State Tournament
WB scored 2
Mr. Soccer for sure.
WB scored 2
Mr. Soccer for sure.
Any other scores?
Outside of 1 or 2 teams, single A is awful, absolutely awful. They should not get the same billing as AA on this blog. Their stats should be tracked seperately and their records kept in a 3 ring binder cuz they ain't worth sh**.
Wow WB 2 out of 7 goals against a team that was 0-12-3...impressive. Maybe he should run for president as well.
WB could score more but coach held him off.
WB for your mama...
Not nice!
As good as WB is, Mr. Soccer is as much about coach popularity. You gotta think the Bloomington Jefferson kid has a good shot as his coach is well connected.
mpls south is good. look for them to win their section.
PC 2 - Centennial 1
How was EP? Only 1 goal?
You have to be the top player in the conference to get Mr. Soccer.
AA ain't worth s*** either my friend Minnesota High School Soccer has the about the same reputation as Texas Hockey...it's all a complete joke.
Is WB top player in his conference?
wats up wit all this stuff about WB? is WB the only player in the league?
9:05, well said.
9:45, true.
10:03, you're dumb.
10:07, you're kind of dumb too. A lot of coaches are well connected these days. And the well connected coaches know the top players through club ball. WB is a lock with his individual stats and team record.
10:57, get a life :)
I heard South got pretty well handled by Wayzata 2-0 earlier this year, so I don't know about all these "South should win their section" statements, we'll see
any other scores?
that don't even matter its section now, wayzata loss to armstrong and south creamed them 4-0, so anything can happen.
A little disappointed that Hopkins lost in shootout.
Hopkins couldn't go any more than that...sorry.
Class 6AA sections prediction....
Armstrong 2 - Wayzata 1
St. Louis Park 1 - South 3
ooooo blake in a squeaker....17-0 over north.
AA and A both have their weak teams and conferences. There are huge disparities in school sizes and locations in the sections, just like conferences. We also have private vs. public schools. The biggest, best funded metro schools should be the ones in the finals.
I think A VS AA is not the point. High School Soccer is just not very good period. There are terrible AA teams... when McArthur scores a ton against teams that would not complete with Classic 3 Club teams people should not get too excited. But watch AA there will be some very lopsided matches because of the lack of talent on one side.....
Ok, this maybe a dumb question, but if your team doesn't make it out of sections. Can you still be Mr. Soccer?
Champlin - Irondale score?
looks like EP escaped near upset. As i have said all year they will be verylucky to make it out of sections and definitely will not win state. Don't understand it as their u-17 premier team is virtually 100% eden prairie kids and i think they were first or second in the league
they were first in their premier league.
they had an outstanding goalie from SLP play for them along with two talented field players - one from BSM and the other Hopkins.
Key question is how often do you see their starting summer line-up on the field at the same time.
Thank god the asst. coach convinced the head coach to stop playing man marking all over the field.
yes you can still win Mr Soccer if your team loses in the section tourney. The player must be the number one rated player out of its conference. The group meets this sunday to decide. Then it will be announced at the State Banquet on Oct 19 at 6pm for AA. If Brown was voted the top player in his conf he will win it for sure. He is among the leaders in scoring, his team has done, and he is one of the top players. Yes he is a lock assuming the coaches in his conf did not overlook him.
WB will win Mr. Soccer with his team #3 rated in state and scored tons of goals.
regarding EP premier team, I was aware of the SLP goalie, but I think you might be a year off on the others. the EP u 18 team had kessler from Hopkins at center mid, and two players from BSM.
regarding Ep team - nope I'm not a year off. First hand knowledge
Umm, just looked on the MNonline site. Looks like WB shouldn't fans should be crowing quite so loudly yet. D. Fadis just behind WB in goal scoring. Has made the All State team I believe for the past two years. In otherwords he has been a constant threat over a significant period of time.
WB made Fadis looked like U10 when they played earlier in the season.
BTW, how many Mpls South scored against Mpls North? I've lost count...
kessler on U18 EP team is freshman in college. younger kessler (junior) plays for hopkins
Team success is just as important as individual stats. DF is a top contender, but WB has it locked, deservedly so. South isn't as good as Osseo this year and South piled on the stats against weak teams.
If Blake really beat North 17-0, that is really sad. Ever hear of knocking the ball around?
7:42, How can someone predict that EP won't win it all? They've given up the least goals and they have a top record in the toughest conference. Looks like an easy favorite to me. What else do they need to do to get your blessing?
kessler on U18 EP team is freshman in college. younger kessler (junior) plays for hopkins high school and westside U17BPr
WB has earned the right to be nominated for Mr Soccer not only for his stats in HS soccer but also his recognition a Regional ODP player for the past 3 years.He has shown that he is technically proficient but also versatile as a midfielder.Osseo is in the position they are now because WB has the ability to involve his team mates and make them better.DF is all about stats usually pumped up against mediocre competition.Right now, I would say he is a clear favorite!
What's with the 17 goals from Blake? What an awful display of non-sportsmanship to run up a score like that. that is just awful.
Snipe all you want, Fadis has consistently been recognized as a player WB has not.
In the Osseo vs. South, game WB made 5 shots and score on 3. Dula made one shot and score on one. Dula has one assist WB has none. It sounds like one directs and controls the field, Dula, and the other is the recipient of his teammates hard work.
Dula Fadis scored 8 goals against Mpls North
09-17-2008 Minneapolis North 5 goals
09-29-2008 Minneapolis North 3 goals
This dude is incredibly good!
Anon 9:42am, It's a new year and Fadis is cold as water pipe in winter and WB is HOT!
Fadis score 3 goals against Mpls Washburn. This dude is really good!
09-24-2008 Minneapolis Washburn 3 goals
Whitney already has it locked up trust me. Dula wil get all state. Hopefully both coaches are NSCAA members so they can get All American and All Midwest Honors.
Umm, I’m pretty sure this is called High School Soccer? Not ODP soccer? However, if it is about ODP, Dula has also been on the regional team for the past 3 years too, so what.
"WB has the ability to involve his team mate"
Without Hoang in the middle feeding the ball to WB, his goals average would be half of what it is now. Fadis does not have a Hoang caliber player feeding the ball to him for scoring opportunities. So, your statement about WB ability to involve his team mates is very kumba, it is just not true. IF WB is voted Mr. Soccer, he should immediately go a shake both C. Hoang's hand and L. Hoang's hands without those two props WB would not even be someone we are talking about.
Who is the best player in each conference?
NW Sub: WB
Mpls City: DF
Lake: ?
Classic Lake: ?
Sub East: ?
North Sub: ?
Classic Sub: ?
Big 9: ?
If WB is not someone we would be talking about, why has he been a regional team caliber player?
Both WB and DF are top 11 players in the state.
10:03 AM = Carl Hoang
Thank Carl Hoang? That guy is a psycho.
And 10:03 can't be Carl--he can't write that well.
Blake 17 Minneapolis North 0
Classless.
has anybody seen a BSM score?
Anon 10:03am Identify yourself!
Who are you and how you can write so eloquently!
Trying to run up stats in the first sectional game? Why do that?
11:08 awesome. I know that Hoang guy, and "eloquent" is not the word that comes to mind.
"what the H E C K!" is the catch phrase I beleive.
In response to the comments about blake, south, southwest, anyone v. North I think it is a difficult situation. As a coach, how do you tell your guys "hey they are bad we dont need to play the full 90 to beat them so go out there and screw around." Teams who play them as part of conference or playoff schedules are in a difficult situation. If you schedule them nonconference and then smash them 17-0 there is a problem. As a coach I thought I was doing the right thing when I told my guys not to let the other team touch the ball in the second half of a blowout but not to score a goal either. After 20 minutes of chasing my team around the other team just stopped running and stood and watched for the last 10 minutes of a tournament game. I'm not sure which was worse.
we all know somehow that someone is gonna be name Mr. soccer, so why not just want instead of saying those stuff that don't even matter.
Take your best players and put em on one team. We will play two men down and still make em look like kiddies.
ANDROMEDA
11:12pm too funny. I also know that Hoang guy and he's goofy funny as hell.
EP will get eliminated next round. Chaska will show no mercy.
Section 8AA seedings.
1. Elk River
2. St. Cloud Tech
3. Brainerd
4. St. Cloud Apollo
5. Moorhead
6. Fergus Falls
7. Alexandria
8. Bemidji
Prediction
QF: Elk River vs Bemidji --- Elk River
QF: St. Cloud Apollo vs Moorhead --- St. Cloud Apollo
QF: St. Cloud Tech vs Alexandria --- St. Cloud Tech
QF: Brainerd vs Fergus Falls --- Brainerd
Final: Elk River vs St. Cloud Tech --- Elk River
Section games to watch Tuesday 10/7 - Results
Class AA - Section 2 Boys Soccer
Minnetonka 0-2 Edina
Chaska 2-0 Prior Lake
Class AA - Section 5 Boys Soccer
Centennial 1-2 Park Center
Maple Grove 2-1 Spring Lake Park
Class AA - Section 6 Boys Soccer
Hopkins 1-2 (SO) St. Louis Park
Mpls Southwest 0-2 Wayzata
o Disappointed to see Hopkins lost out on PK's.
Pass the ball around, play one-touch, practice your passing, make them chase, make them quit, just don't pile up the score 17-0. Not difficult at all for a coach to do. Bench any player that uses more than one touch, plays the ball in the air or scores. Good for everyone involved.
I hope Blake gets smoked.
why ur taking this 17-0 thing as that of a big deal... north also lose to south 18-0 twice.
If MSHSL is accurate, STA has an enrollment of 1082. Being that this is an all-boys school that would equate to a normal coed enrollment of roughly 2100. Why are they in Class A (this question goes for hockey as well)?
Please, no more WB news.
Please, no more North vs. anyone news.
Playoff reviews from last night?
How many games suffered thru FOG. I know in our game we lost the far lineside ref. The team in white was a blur. But it was kind of fun to watch, made it memorable for sure. It doesn't look like it effect any outcomes.
I agree no more WB and North news.
Osseo 7, Mounds View 0
WB scored 2 goals
No real upsets last night--I expected a few with the weather.
I don't get why Eveleth-Gilbert have to be in 7AA with its enrollment number 376? This is taken from MSHSL site.
School Statistics
Enrollment (9-12): 376
Year Founded: 1903
Nickname: Golden Bears
Colors: Gold and Black
Song: Illinois Loyalty
MSHSL ID: 504
Admin. Region: 7A
Coon Rapids just gonna roll over the Golden Bears.
BTW, CR enrollment is 2565.
School Statistics
Enrollment (9-12): 2565
Year Founded: 1963
Nickname: Cardinals
Colors: Red and White
Song: Pennsylvania Fight Song
MSHSL ID: 108
Teams can stop scoring after 7 or 8 goals and the coach can make this happen. Wether regular season or playoffs, this should not happen.
Section 4AA seedings.
1. Stillwater
2. Woodbury
3. St. Paul Central
4. Tartan
5. Cretin-Derham Hall
6. White Bear Lake
7. Mpls North
9. Roseville
Prediction
QF: Stillwater vs Roseville --- Stillwater
QF: Tartan vs Cretin-Derham Hall - Cretin-Derham Hall
QF: Woodbury vs Mpls North --- Woodbury
QF: St. Paul Central vs White Bear Lake --- St. Paul Central
Final: Stillwater vs Woodbury --- Woodbury
Dear soccer fan at 1:10 pm:
The common cause of fairness and equity is an aspirational goal that unites us all. That is why the insightful individuals at the high school league have already doubled the attendance figures in the number you report for Saint Thomas Academy. Thus you should divide the high school league number in half to get the actual number of fine young men attending that magnificent, single gender, catholic, military school located just south of St. Paul. I wish all the teams well as thee sectional play begins. But, of course, I may work in a novena or two for those partial to my side of the pitch.
/s/ brother o’pitch
3:37 - thank you for the information. I was not aware of that and it makes perfect sense. Good luck to STA in the playoffs. 1:10.
Edina Vs Jefferson should be a good game... The first time they played it was a good game but a 1 to 0 lose for Jefferson. But now Edina has to play on the worst field in the state. Unfair advantage or deserving?
Why is it the worst field in the state?
Doesn't every natural turf field in the state have a trench on the sidelines? Just to be fair to Jefferson or Edina, they can't have the worse field in the state. The worse field in the state is any natural turf high school football team field that allows the soccer teams to play on it.
Which as someone pointed out eariler is why boot and scoot will get you to the dome.
yup
Does it really matter how many goals a team scores? If you take your starters out your fine. I could care less if you keep scoring as long as it's not your starting forwards continuing to put it in the net. Everyone on here whines to much let the teams score all they can, it really is not that big of a deal. The other team will get over it. What good is it for them to not have a point to the game, the object is to score goals by stopping players from doing that you take the point of the game away. Yes, possesion and blah blah blah but lets be serious let the kids play.
Anon 8/10/08 7:06 AM:
MacArthur scores goals despite being in the smallest school in the conference and playing as holding MF out of necessity. He won conference MVP and all-state last year as junior despite teams dismal season and first round out at sections. He plays every minute of every game and is constantly hacked and targeted. But he loves it and does not complain. I am sure that there are great players all over Minnesota, but don't cut someone down if you don't know the facts.
His Dad
How easy is Apple Valleys section? Why did they get to switch? They have the easiest ride to state i have ever seen.
Coon Rapids and Osseo have easier sections than AV, Eagan is a formidable opponent, much better than anyone in CR or Osseo's section
RM is a lock for Mr. Soccer. He's good, has a good team and a well connected coach. I could be close, but RM has the votes already.
What about our old boy RG? Where are the jock riders now?
But seriously, Fadis is a lock at AA. Single A is up in the air at this point.
Have you all heard this song
"DREAM ON"?
Yeah keep dreaming people.
How about Brian Grand (North Branch) with 31 goals and Daniel Killen (St. Bernard's) with 30 goals. Killen was featured in StarTribune.
WB was Athlete of the Week.
Any of these dudes Athelete of the Week in StarTribune? Enough said.
BTW, Osseo is #3 in final Coaches Poll. Any of these teams come close? Enough said.
WB is getting my vote. RG is the best player in the state.
Av beats rosemount tonight 1-0. av scored in first 5 mins, both teams had a lot of chances. could of been 3-1 or 3-0.
AV struggling against #8 seed is showing signs of weakness.
RG jock riders? this site makes me sick how many jock riders there are for WB... RG plays on a mediocre at best team and doesn't get any help from his teammates like WB does...Rodrigo would make WB look silly 1v1
If you want best players for 1v1, look no further than Osseo players. They can make Fadis and whoever look very silly.
Just look at all the stats, WB comes out on top every time. Team and individual. Enough said.
"dream on" Keep dreaming baby!
Rosemount being the 8 seed in that section was a joke in the first place, and AV dominated the game could have scored 6 or 7 goals easily rosemount never really had any decent chances
Brown has already won the Mr Soccer award. Trust me on this. I know. The coaches vote on Sunday afternoon and Dula is a great player but Osseo has done well and Brown has played vs better competition. This point is not even worth discussing Brown is a lock. Rodrigo is the best soccer player in MN no doubt. Ask any of the top coaches and they will tell you that. He is going to go to Madison and is the biggest recruit out of MN this year.
WB makes Rodrigo looking like he's jogging with the ball.
One of the best ball handler with speed and shot like fricking coming out of a cannon.
BTW, WB won the State 4x100 race last year. STATE BABY! Any better soccer players can do this? Enough said.
Was there anyone else on his relay team or did he run the whole relay himself?
Commenting on the level of teams in the Mississippi 8 Conference is in no way a cut to Ryan. I have watched him play against my son both in the summer and in conference, Ryan is a gifted player on a very weak High School team. The point is Big Lake, Becker, almost any quality player could score at will against. The rest of the conference is average and how many goals and points has he scored against Monticello, Rogers, Buffalo? Building Stats against bad teams should not get you Mr Soccer.
Players in all conferences pad their stats against weak teams, but it is hard to score even against weak teams if the rest of your team is as weak as the team you are playing. Plus, some players do not play only one position. They may have a defensive role against the "better" teams.
It's the same thing when piling up goals against Mpls North will not get you far.
Not in the Lake Conference where the bottom team only won one game all year and they pushed AV the number one team in the state last night and ended up losing 1-0. You don't get to run up any scores or stats in the Lake Conf. Where Eagan the conference runner up beat Hastings 9-0. The Suburban East is way down.
Woodbury does not even play any non conf games. We really don't know how good they are. The Lake and Classic Lake have been and will continue to be the two best Conferences. Only once since the mid 90's has some other conf won the state tourney and that was Anoka last year. When was the last time a team from Section 1 or 8 played in the final game? I dont think any southern or northern schools have made it to the final game. Mayo looks decent this year and will be a tough team to beat. Section 8 should be Elk River and I understand they will be better next year, maybe a year away.
Brian Grand had a total of ONE goal against BSM, ST Louis Park, Fridley and Totino Grace. Glad he scored five against the Ag and Food Science Academy.
BSM scored 23 goals all year, but scored 12 in the first game of their sections. It really does matter who you play.
12:02 is correct.
MN has a number of good attacking players this year. More than in previous years. With the increase in immigrant families, this trend will continue.
Anyone notice the similarity between Super Eagles post in the past the the WB post now. The maturity, the eloquent verbage.
WB is in our conference. He has LOTS of support. His sucess is not his own. They are rank #3, because he has support! The ER game was the first time he was man mark. Man mark his with someone w/speed and is physical and he cracks like an egg.
WB summer team was religated, because they scored 11 goals all MYSA season. They had a well respected coach, so it not the coaching. Could it be he didn't care, wasn't trying? Could it be that he didn't have the support he has now, against much weaker competition.
Most of the other players being mentioned for Mr. Soccer, not only played sucessfully in the PREMIER MWL, they scored goals.
So what does that have to do with HS soccer. Well, as the yahoo's keep spouting about how WB is carrying Osseo it just isn't true given the facts. Sorry guys WB sucess is mostly due to the support he is getting from around him.
Blogmaster - There is an error in a score in section 3aa. Apple Valley beat Sibley, but the score was not 1-0. Please check, but I believe the score was 6-0. Thanks!
Sorry, Blogmaster I meant Rosemount. My Bad.
Anon 8:55 Soccer is a team sports but there's only one spot for limelight which player will you put up?
WB is as good as any his teammates. Since stats is the highlight of accomplishment, you need to pick player with stats behind him.
If you stop WB, you have a good chance of beating Osseo whether you man mark him or mug him. You just contradicted yourself by using the Elk river game as an example. Osseo has some talented individual players(it does not hurt to have 4 who won the 4X100 relay)but WB makes the team better because he is gifted with great technical skills and a good feel of the game.Championship soccer is after all still a team game and WB is only one player but he has shown he can be a game changer
Dula is all of those things and has worked more consistantly. He has preformed for every team he has played on.
The point about the ER game was WB did not score I beleive in that game. When pressured, without that pressure being deluted he is not effective. Hence this summer performance.
Mr. Soccer is a special award, for someone who has consistantly performed and worked hard. WB has not done that.
You all can stop your stuff about WB.
He already won the award. Rodrigo will win the Pioneer Press player because they pick an east side or St Paul kid. These are guarantees. Trust me on this. Lets Blog about who is going to win the state championship and who is going to college to play next year.
So 10:08 your a coach? Your WB and they already contacted you to fit you for your suit?
If what was posted here is correct. Conference Coaches meeting select Mr. Soccer canidates not the sectional coaches meeting. I have a hard time believe that 2 weeks before the State Tournament they already chosen Mr. Soccer???
Does Mr. Soccer award a player for this fall's HS season or for multiple seasons?
If it's just for this fall, without a doubt the award goes to WB.
You all WB non-believers will eat crows. I guarantee it.
What state ranking is Osseo?
Any players in AV or EP getting talked about for Mr. Soccer. Why not?
Is WB #1 ranking in his conference? I think Northwest Suburban conference. Without being #1 pick, he doesn't have a chance in running for Mr. Soccer.
I don't know maybe they are actually umm what do you call them, PLAYERS, and let their field work do the trash talking for them.
Fact of the matter is Hoang is a better player than WB. So, WB can't even come off his team as the #1 player.
What was the Apple Valley v Rosemount final score, it WAS NOT 1-0.
Class AA - Section 3 Boys Soccer
Apple Valley 1, Rosemount 0 F RECAP
Dula has 110 career points
Dula has 76 career points against Mpls North
Hoang has 56 career points. Played as an 8th Grader. Was a Captain as a Junior. Again, WB isn't even the best player on his own team.
correction...Dula has 110 points 9th-12th. He also played as 8th grader, but I don't have those stats. Captain as a junior. All 3 are nice players.
RM dad - chill and let your son play. any one winning this award and cant take his team to the state tournament is a player who does not have a sense of the game. If you are deserving of the award, then the next few weeks will show. How many goals can he score when it counts. all weak teams will be done and now we play for real. I hope we don't make excuses then. win state champ and make your school proud and let's forget all these individual awards. it makes parents feel proud but the rest of the school ... hmmm - no babes for Mr. MN soccer. Secondly, must player be high in points. It has nothing to do with the game itself.
we can only say that HS soccer is MN is in the hands of mostly coaches who have not played the game so they vote based on emotions and network. If we truly want to select players who know the game, and we can be proud of our selections, some of the past selections from Wayzata and Edina would not be even close.
Anon. 10:44
Apple Valley is dominated by their Juniors and Sophomores as the strong point of talent for the team. The top 8 players in points for AV are Sophomores or Juniors.
As far as Eden Prairie I am surprised they don't have someone in the mix because they have some talent in their senior class. But when I just looked at the stats on the S-Trib no one has more than 13 points so that sort of answers that. They don't have any Monasterios.
Anon 12:33pm Granted WB got all those goals not by himself but with lots of help from the team. If he wins Mr. Soccer, it's just not for himself but the entire team wins as well. To get the best possible chance for the team to win, WB is the only one that has stats jump out at the coaches and can speak in volume to get those important votes.
Osseo and NWSC can be proud that they have Mr. Soccer in their backyard.
Hoang is good player but he's not in scoring position to get those accolades. He can be a force in the midfield and setup the scoring play. WB is great finisher however. You need all the parts to have a winning team and these two can make it happens.
Anon 2:04
Are you from Osseo? Doesn't sound like it.
WB or his fans for the past three days have been claiming that he is a one man show. From the junk I've readed on this blog, WB don't represent anyone but himself! If I was Hoang, I'd be pissed. As RM dad has said Mr. Soccer is an honor, WB isn't honoring anyone but himself. Sure they are going to come on an make all nicey nice now. Yeah, yeah WB winning it for us all. But we all already know what you think. Good to know where your team mates stand.
The reason an Apple Valley or Eden Prairie player was not mentioned for Mr. Soccer is that it was assumed Ryan Schlittler would walk away easily with the honor. You must be tops in your section.
Lots of talk about some really good players, but only a metro player or extremely talented out-state player with an outstanding summer association with a winning premier team should be selected.
Reason - Insufficient high school competition (ie. North Branch, Mpls, St. Paul)
Can we move on already - No one is going to care a year from now and five years from now no one will even remember who Mr. Soccer was - Who is playing tonight? If a man had a free night who should he go watch?
Osseo plays a terrible schedule. WB plays nobody and pads his stats.
2:49
Actually, the players who receives top honors will get NCAA D1 program consideration- So Mr. Soccer as well as the newspaper players of the year are important honors.
By the way, I can name the Mr. Soccer winners and candidates back for almost 5 years.
what about talking about osseo and not sayin WB...
Actually I can't remember any of them. I'm must be getting old.
The section has nothing to do with Mr Soccer. This is the process you have to be the number 1 player in your conference. All the conferences have met and determined this. I would assume the WB is number 1 in the NW Sub Conf. This Sunday the 8 section reps from AA and the 8 from A will pick the AA and A winner. Then Oct 19 the award will be announced. I guarantee you WB will win. The lake rep is not RS from Eagan and no player from AV because they are all juniors or younger. WB will win it for sure. Highest rated team with a top kid and he is one of the best. The MPLS city rarely gets the Mr Soccer becasue the stats are out of balance because of competition.
"From the junk I've readed on this blog" anon 2:27 please take grade school over again
Mr. Soccer goes to the best player that had the best season on the best team. Individual stats, team success and player history all weigh in on it.
CM didn't have outrageous stats in 2007, but he was the best player on the best team and he was a good player outside of HS soccer. This is how it has been selected every year, except for maybe 2000 when DR won it over SG (but it sounds like you guys forget out previous seasons).
It's hard to argue with any of the previous selections, including pre-Mr. Soccer years back in the 90s. WB is the most deserving player this season. He's a good player, on a top team, with top-level stats, and he's done well in club soccer by playing premier and being a top ODP player.
CM on the best team in 2007? They didn’t win state, but at least you let us all know you’re a Wayzata fan! Prior year AG from Mpls. South didn't make it to state.
2:27 is right about the WB. His attitude may keep him from getting the award.
Also, as previous bloggers have pointed out he get service from a good midfield and gets to play up top and tap goals in.
Anyone who thinks RG is the best player in HS soccer, but thinks WB should win the award is stupid.. The best HS player should win the award. Off the field and attitude also plays heavily into the award. Everyone in recent memory execpt maybe AK were good citizens...and AK wasn't really bad, he just found some trouble.
I agree with 6:34 that no previous have been bad choices. This years winner will not be a bad choice either, regardless of who it is.
I don't think it will be WB. By the way how did Geoffrey Meyers not ever win Mr. Soccer?
WB played Wings Premier. It was religated. They scored 11 goals all season. "he's done well in club soccer" by what standard?
Compared to Dula, WB club standard is a joke. MPLS kid doesn't get Mr. Soccer because he's in a weak conference. Sounds like west suburb logic.
5:30pm - You have too much free time on your hands or don't you have a family? Question for you? What and where are those last 5 Mr. Soccer guys - Did they get D1 consideration - Did they play all 4 years D1 - Did they graduate with a good education? Everyone needs to relax and just enjoy the game of soccer -
WB bashers will eat crows.
I guarantee it. LOL!
RS from Eagan is not the Lake rep because he is no longer on the team. It would've been a close race between him and WB.
Let's go back to the reason for this blog! Osseo can win sections if their defense can hold up!(Back line is suspect and a goalie that is average!)South is not a lock because now, they have to play real teams and St louis Park will give them everything they can handle!Mr soccer does not mean D1 success because if you check the post in D1 Mn players, you will find quite a few that are doing well w/o Mr soccer credentials!As for Mr Soccer recipients in D1 programs in the last five years, CM,AG,DG,BM,RV,DO, are examples of kids that are doing well academically and meeting the demands of a student athlete.You can say the same about the women student athletes.As for Geoffrey Myers, his issues were similar to AK and you can say the same thing with AW (gifted athletes w added baggage)along with an age discrepancy issue. You can throw in the mix Keido Pour and all his credentials as Mr Soccer and Star Tribune player of the year.The bottom line is Mr Soccer is a high school recognition based on not just a fall soccer season and D1 SOCCER requires a respectable ACT and a commitment that soccer is now a job and the reality of it's demands can be a rude awakening! Mr Soccer will come and go and whoever gets it in a given year will always remember that it is TEAM first and the celebration that follows is vindication of a great season(Making it to state championship certainly counts)so everybody chill because the real Mr Soccer will come out before the final eight!Relax and enjoy the boys of October!
Scores from tonight?
Well said 9:05!
Lets go JAGS~!
Cretin 3 Tartan 1
Lakeville North 8 Rochester JM 1
Owatonna 5 Lakeville South 4
best player in conference with top team in A is not RM. check out the stats - who is nbr 1 ranked team in A, who is best player in the team, playing all positions? let's be honest, it goes to a senior not a junior. my vote to the tg player. watch it. I called it last year and everyone jumped on the SE coach. but let me tell you something this kid will make WB or any AA player eat crow despite playing on A school. he was leading scorer on his club team and also plays ODP - so the credentials speaks. last year I wrote about the yonga kid and was told to shut up - how about him this year? what are you guys saying?
anon 10:34 - you are right and it should go to the best player in the conference with the best stats and not to anyone whose coach is connected. dad cries foul for RM but truth be told, they need to play tough teams like TG did. The competition for TGHS was tougher schedule even beating Armstrong and losing close games to EP and SLP. I like to see the RM schools play EP or any top ranked schools in AA. if he does not get it then coaches need to check their heads.IMO he gets the vote.
This year Paul Yonga won't get it. Next year is different year.
Anyone know results of the St Paul Central WBL game? How about Stillwater Roseville or North v. Woodbury?
RM and PY used to play together with Kickers state champs at U12 and Premier U13. Both have played on several state champ teams. PY is junior this year.
Roseville v Stillwater game close but Stillwater advances 1-0
Central beats W.B. Lk 1-0.
WB Lk. passed there way around Central in the midfield last night and controlled large chunks of the game, but really didn't have anyone dangerous on the attack. Central was having a horrible time linking between the midfield and forwards. When the forwards did get the ball there was no support from the midfield. There offensive shape was pretty bad most of the night ( I've seen them play before and they can play much better) although the defense did keep their shape well and allowed WB Lk very little opportunities. But WBL did hit one that the Central keeper tipped over the net and skimmed the bar. Another WBL shot was cleared off the line by a defender. But Central was by far the more dangerous team in final third. To WB Lk's credit, they defended really well and always had large numbers back with good shape to their defense. Central could have easily had 2 or 3 more goals. Two off the bar, three cleared off the line by defenders and one tipped just over the bar.
Zimmerman aint no Totino Grace
In the Wbl ANd SPA Game which players were dominant?
anon 6:15, so does that mean the criteria for getting the award should be to a senior and not to be best player despite not being a senior? it is strange that we pick a player as Mr soccer just because of seniority. this is another entitlement that we should do away with. just wait till you are a seniuor and put up some good numbers and you become mr. soccer in mn. that's a shame for anyone who knows soccer. the records for a particular year should be the measurement not just because someone is a senior and therefore we should only say HS is only seniors who should play-
6:52,
By best player on the best team, that means any of the top ranked teams. Rarely will the award go to a player on a weak team. Regardless, Wayzata was ranked #1 at the time Mr. Soccer was selected last year. Therefore, CM was the top player on the top team. That's beside the point.
Mr. Soccer doesn't go to the top player in HS. It goes to the player that had the best season, which includes individual and team accomplishments. RG is the top player in both HS classes.
WB has had a good club career in the sense that he has always been a top player in the premier league and he has made the region pool.
You're fooling yourself if you're digging for reasons for WB not to win it. Simply put, the best player on Osseo is going to win it, whomever you think that is.
I like Mr. Soccer going to a senior. It's a nice tradition just like Mr. Hockey. Metro Player of Year isn't restricted to a senior. Everyone gets their slice. Seems like a nice system to me.
mama mia Not best player by your standards. It's best player coming out of the conference with coaches approval. If he's not #1 in the conference, then he doesn't have a chance.
The coaches have a hard time screwing someone with a well-known name like CM or WB.
But for the lesser known kids?
It happens all the time when you are talking all-state. Coach-politics play a large part in the section seed/vote meetings.
Decent-quality kids get passed over because their coach is not well-liked/trusted by the other coaches in the seed meeting. Or they owe a coach a vote for pushing last year's kid from their respective team.
Or sometimes a coach won't even nominate his own player for (?) reasons.
I have participated in these meetings many times.
Stats are for losers
11:21 I hear you. No matter how good of a player if the coach won't put their name down they ain't going anywhere. Politics play a BIG part of voting.
11:21 Are you saying that the coaches vote for all-state at the section seed meetings? Those probably tok place last weekend, right? Hmm.
I can see those being dominated by a certain coach or two in each section. Wonder what the Buffalo coach (or Mpls North) has to say at their meetings? Not that anyone would listen to them anyway.
7:13
You are missing the point - It is great to be cheering for a Mr. Soccer candidate that will go to a top academic D1 school than a knucklehead that thinks he will have a career with the Thunder.
IE. John Baumgartner - Notre Dame
Paul Grandstrand - Ivy/Brown
Colin Montestereo - Madison
David Dale - Boston College
Ben Sippola - Butler
Andre Adams - Boston University
These guys are ROLE MODELS! Great grades, D1 Soccer, great high school seasons
Who cares about Mr. Soccer! It's section time baby!!!!
Ahhh, I'm not in the believe of downing kids as is so often done on this board. But let me tell you, there is a kid on that list that I know very well, and sorry, he is not a role model nor did he have great grades in H.S.
But I do hear what your saying you think the award should be about or should I say, that it's nice to cheer for someone who is also an academic as well as an athlete. But if you look at a world model, which is the only way the players in the country are going to get better, than the kid who is aspiring to play in the USL, MLS, Europe, S. America or U.S. National team should certainly be valued for what they are trying to achieve. And no, they will not be playing D1 college futbol because it's not the best way to achieve those goals.
Correction.Andre Adams never made the BU team but Bayode Adafin (Rochester Mayo) is doing well in Columbia U.Not sure what happened to Baumgardner in Notre Dame but you now have Chris Sutton (Shattuck-St Mary) there.Mr Soccer should stay a HS senior award but does not guarantee D1 OFFERS OR SUCCESSES. Brandon Miller would also be a good example of a Mr Soccer that has done well in Madison.The big question is,where is Keido Pour?
Sorry, Mama Mia I'm trying to figure out how you think WB had a good Club year. He played HORRIBLE. He made it easy to beat the Wings because he refused to pass the ball an work with his team mates. Not the sign of a Mr. Soccer. Rummor has it he left the SE, because it was too tough.
Last I heard KP was out chasing professional contracts. After coming back from Europe, I believe he is playing on the practice squad of one of the MLS teams. I also heard from a less reliable source that he is have problems with his documentation. Which is why the European clubs won't touch him. KP is not attending school.
Don't forget about Alex Davis who played for Bangu and at AHA.
He's playing GK at Dayton.
So WB didn't pass the ball at Wings and now all of his goals are a result of the work of others? That doesn't really add up. He tried to create on his own too much for Wings but now he doesn't create on his own at all for Osseo?
I sense jealousy.
I would say making the region team is a pretty good non-HS career.
Two points-
Andre Adams did make the BU team, just didn't see minutes as a freshman. (how many do at D1 schools?)
KP is one of those "knuckleheads"
So let's let academics serve as a tie breaker for this year's Mr. Soccer...
1:07,
What is it about being a top player on a premier team in the best and most spread out age group as well as being a region pool player that isn't a good club career?
I would say that kind of player is probably a top 15 player in the state.
Add on 30-some goals for a top ranked team in the HS season and you have the likely Mr. Soccer winner.
Let's get back to sections blogging! Maple Grove vs Champlin will be interesting since Champlin seems to have some capable scorers but going up against a solid goaltender(some say he is better than Jeffrey Webster))Weather will not be a factor so home field + Gavin Pugh coaching might be the difference. Classic lake matchup between Wayzata and Armstrong might go into a shootout since this will be the 3rd time they are meeting. Wayzata seems to be jelling and getting Casey Basco back should help.SLP and South should also be a nailbiter this weekend!Mr Soccer will start emerging as we get to the section finals especially if some of the choices are toss- ups!
John Baumgartner a Role Model, that's a good one he is just like RS if you knew the kid.
Does it really matter who wins Mr. Soccer. There is not a great stand out talent in this years soccer class. There are some good players but seriously none of these kids are breathe-taking players. Everyone is getting to hung up on who wins it this year. Let's face it the talented STUDS are not Seniors this year. I'm sick of hearing everyone talk about how RS or WB or whoever you think is the best player that they are just this untouchable phenom! They are just good players nothing special.
If you really think about it, they're all not that great and breathtaking players. Just good players.
Osseo studs made MG defense looking like deers staring at headlights. Hellooooo!
"If you really think about it, they're all not that great and breathtaking players. Just good players"
You said it all right there.
Sections, sections, sections...
Anon 2:49
"top player on a premier team in the best and most spread out age group” in you and your child’s dreams. Why do last years U16 think they are the best age group ever to grace the soccer in MN is beyond me. They had success early on due to abundance of early maturing players and a coach that was able to unite them for a short period. WB was not even a part of that success. Last year, while a loud and controversial group they certainly did not experience the kind of success the U17 age group did. In fact the group of U16 parents that consistently post on this web site, were not even apart of the team that went to U16 regional tournament. They carried on like spoil brats about how the best team did not go to regions. Yet the team that went played competitive soccer at regions despite the jealousy of a few. The jealousy you sense is your own. The shrill for attention from your community is tasteless and unfounded. The only U17 premier team beaten by a U16 team was again the Wings, which was relegated. Not one U16 team beat any of the top three U17 teams in the state. Again, to say they are the most talented, most spread out age group is just not true, and the facts do not support this view. End of story. At present, the only thing this age group is "best" at is producing psycho adults/parents.
"as well as being a region pool player" as all the others are being mentioned for Mr. Soccer. So what, that is not a good club career. That is ODP and there are several other players with those same credentials. Mr. Soccer takes more than just a good HS season, takes more than having just a good club season, and takes more than just having a good ODP experience.
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