An exciting season is moving into sectional play. The top 5 or 6 teams in AA and A have a real shot at winning state.
Section brackets:
Section 1: A - AA
Section 2: A - AA
Section 3: A - AA
Section 4: A - AA
Section 5: A - AA
Section 6: A - AA
Section 7: A - AA
Section 8: A - AA
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How caN Osseo be the third seed after beating both MV and MG?
any geese nesting at Bloomington stadium???
The Jags "House of Pain" awaits you whiners.
EP players should be forced to wear elbow pads. They throw more elbows than a hockey team.Cheap shot artits.
la brea tar pits? bloomington bog? kiss your players before they take the pitch...you may never see them again! lol
good luck to both the teams!!!
Why put the A on here, it's a JV tournament.
2:00 - I must have missed the part where someone was mandating that your mouse click on any of the A links or read any of the postings.
Interesting post about Class A being a JV tournament. The small schools in this state have produced, at times, some of the highest levels of talent. Well, they have produced enough, at least, to be hopefully removed from the JV category...names that come to mind:
Kluegel (all american at UNC--sadly played for a JV team--Mahtomedi)
Schulz (currently on the U16 national pool and scored multiple goals for the national u15's in internation play--sadly playing JV soccer for AHA)
The other DI players currently on rosters that hail from SPA, Blake, AHA, Lourdes...somehow they emerged from Class A.
On the boys side, thankfully the national team still selected Tony Sanneh--even though he came from a small school and apparently some professional organizations are even willing to look past school size to offer cotracts to Manny Lagos, Amos Magee and other more recent standouts...
LOL well that opportunity certainly wasn't missed!
12:08 - What happened? Did your daughter get a booboo from those mean EP kids?
Who pulss the big upset tonight?
Please don't be dumb enough to think there is any connection between school soccer and making the national team or ODP pool. School soccer class A or AA is fun. not remotely connected to development. I think 2:00 was going for a response and got it.
200, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. have you no shame?! lol
Agreed, A is nowhere near AA for boys or girls. A is a joke.
Warning - rant coming.
It would be nice to be spared complete idiocy. In every sport with a large number of players, large school trumps small school with very few exceptions.
5A tops 4A tops 3A in football
4A tops 3A tops 2A in basketball
(exception 2A Litchfield with the Carlson brothers tops 4A Tartan with Jake Sullivan during reg season several years ago)
2A tops 1A in soccer
(exception Mahtomedi with Elena Fruci over Woodbury)
Watch whatever turns your crank - no reason to denigrate any class.
The game ain't about you. 9-man football is fun - Lake conference volleyball is a kick - basketball is fun in a small town crackerbox or a 4A title game.
High School soccer is about bringing together players of different ages and skills in a short season and trying to build a successful team. It is about playing with friends and classmates, representing our school, learning a new system, setting goals, trying to achieve them, and having fun. Mia will not develop her national team fundamentals in HS, but she can develop mentally and as a person by learning how to use her skills best to help her team be successful.
HS soccer is not about over-involved parents. Minnesota soccer doesn't have an impact on FIFA rankings or global warming, whether club, HS, or college.
Enjoy whatever level you choose, and remember who and what it is for.
Be careful what some of you folks you say about Class A Girl's Soccer....you risk showing your low soccer IQ....Mahtomedi 2008 NSC Cup Champion (over unbeaten AA Edina in shootout)... 2006 Mahtomedi undefeated season State Champion & NSC Cup Champion(including wins over AA State Champ Woodbury & #2 AA Eden Prarie)...2004 Mahtomedi State Champ (including win over AA State Champ Woodbury).
Thus the lone exception proves the rule.
EP wins 3-0 over Kennedy. Any score on Mtka/jefferson game?
Edina 7-0 over Shakopee.
Jefferson 2 Minnetonka 0
I think it just makes some feel like a big man by slamming others (AA v A). Probably drives a big truck to feel important too. There are big mouth bullys everywhere, even on this blog. They are ignored on this blog as they are probably ignored everywhere else.
my daughter's JV team (class A) went 6-3 this year vs varsity (AA) teams, 4 of which had more than 10 wins on the year.
must have been a good JV team eh?
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would like to know who those schools were as I do not believe you.
I would guess it is the usual AHA parent talking about the Missota AA powers.
any reports from the tonka-jefferson game?
I think we should have the A tournament first and then add the winner to the AA bracket. That way, we would be able to weed out the JV level teams and also see if the A champion was any good against AA competition. Or have the AA champion play the A champion, except that might be embarassing sometimes for the A champion. It's too bad that the A people think there all that, cuz I watch and they ain't.
Yeah, it's like 9-man football vs. AAAA.
Upset of the day Rosemount vs Eagan?
Any other possible upsets?
Seriously? Have you seen those two teams?!
It'll be an upset if Rosemount manages to get the ball in Eagan's end of the field.
10:38 is an idiot, but I love him/her for the analogy, which is priceless.
Maybe A vs. AA is like T-wolves vs. Spurs or Vikings vs. any real NFL team or Gophers vs. Ohio State football.
Frankly, I am amazed that we allow A to play AA teams in non-conference games. It's not fair, really.
More akin to the Globetrotters vs the Senators. The outcome is preordained.
12:07 That is funny!
I have seen Mahtomedi, SPA, AHA, and Duluth East (they are actually a class A school but play up in the AA tournament by choice) do just fine against AA competition this year.
I think you are all just trying to provoke a response you're not going to get. I hate to break it to you put the elite level A schools aren't on this blog desperately seeking your approval.
Is there such a thing as an "elite" level A school?
EP vs Jeff....this would be a great matchup. A couple of heavyweights bangin and slamin. A couple of teams with mediocre talent but with the ability to go ten rounds with each other.The winner to recieve the first GOON BOWL trophy.
1:16 CORRECT, ELITE AND CLASS A(IN REGARDS TO SOCCER) DO NOT GO TOGETHER.
Har Har Har.....very funny. Maybe the game should not be decided by goals but rather the team with the most red cards wins.
Whoa horsie....wait a minute...Rosemount has a player nicknamed "drop kick" who doesn't need to take a backseat to anybody.Once she gets you on the ground she will lay her famous drop kick on you.
1;23:
Saw Jeff last night and they are physical, but wouldn't call them goons, just physical. Maybe it's just that they play out of MN "nice" soccer. The problem with MN soccer is that for those players which haven't played out of state, they think physical play is dirty. Those which have travelled know better.
The Mtka. team battled them, but just didn't have enough players.
sgree at physical play is not dirty, people in this state do not understand that. sooooooo many parents scream and yell if lil suzy gets touched. note to crazies SOCCER IS A PHYSICAL GAME
I watched the Jefferson team play too. Very physical but zero red cards on the year. I don't think any yellow cards last night either. If that is the case then I think they can step it up a notch and play more physical. I am not saying they should hurt anyone but they can play hard and playing hard is part of the game and that leads to the miss timing of tackles. Good for the Jags keep up the agressive play.
The problem is where do you draw the line on physical and it being a foul? It's kind of like offensive line play in a football game. You could conceivably throw a flag on every down but the refs let some things slide. I've watched high school soccer in this state for quite a few years and there are physical teams and there are dirty teams. The funny thing is the best teams are usually neither as they get by on their skill. Physical play is oftentimes a mask for inferior ability.
any results tonight?
Section 3AA
Eastview 4 Sibley 0
Apple Valley 2 Burnsville 1
Park CG 3 Hastings 0
Eagan 2 Rosemount 0
EVHS 4 Sibley 0
Gotta say this EV first year coach is a first class guy! Pulled starters after halfway through first half when they went up by 3. Seniors pulled out as group to get recognition at last home game. Last fifteen minutes players were next year's varsity.
I think AV/Burnsville game was AV 2 Bvlle 1 with four minutes to go.
1:16, 1:24... parents/players from crappy AA schools who need to feel good about their 7-9-2 records...
7:57 Very wrong, my team is undefeated this year.
8:03 - "my team"? So you are either a student or a parent living their life through their child. Please respond back letting us know which one it is.
Once and for all, I am a "AA" parent who watches alot of good soccer, most of that "good" soccer out of MN. There are "some" very good players in MN that graduate every year. Maybe 12 or so are good enough to play in a solid D-1 program. Then there are another 30 or so good players, good enough to play at, let'd say a mediocre D-1 program. After that, another 20 or so average players are good enough to play at a Winona or Bemidji (D-2). These 50-60 players are generally players that are outstanding in high school, but other than the top ten or so, can't hold their own out of MN. Finally, another 50-60 or so players will end up playing at a D-3 school. Some of these may be very strong players in high school who may not be fast enough to compete at D-1 or D-2, some may want to merely get an education at a highly academic smaller school (Carleton or Mac, etc.)
College coaches are looking for "athletes" who can be trained into their system. If a player has a good touch, can run, is disciplined and can physically compete at a high level, then they "may" get a chance to play at an upper level D-1 program.
Same thing with ODP. For example, one of the best players of the 2009 class, ND of Arm. has never participated in ODP. Would she have made the Regional pool had she ever tried out? Probably so. So don't think for one second that the ODP team has all the best players. I could name many very good players who did not get noticed in ODP, likewise, there have been many ODP players, even Regional level ODP players, who have flopped in college.
As for "A" vs. "AA", some of those top 30-40 players go to "A" schools, the majority of those players go to "AA" schools, just like the majority of general population students. Every once and awhile, some "A" schools get an inordinate amount of very good/good players. In general, a "small" populated "A" school cannot compete with a "large" populated "AA" school. Anyone have anymore stupid statements?
In closing, did I mention a kid's heart and desire, which generally can't be measured by anyone other than their coach or teammates.
8:18 - are you also 8:03?
Take any section, look at the scores in A and AA. The wild score differences should tell anyone with a bit of brain, the quality of teams in A is lower than AA. How many 9-0 or 11-1 games are there in A?
9:14: No. I can assure you, our team was not close to being undefeated, far from it. I'm just someone who believes there a some very good players at "A", but many more at "AA", it's in the numbers!Matter of fact, on my daughters club team which is a regionally ranked team, five players are from "A" schools, two of them start and thirteen are from "AA" schools and eight of them would be called starters.
BTW, my daughters plays on a "AA" high school team so I am not biased for "A" schools.
I'm beginning to suspect some of these class A parents have inferiority complexes. Put simply, the numbers do not lie. bigger school = bigger number of high quality atheletes.
818 is the most amusing, particularly in his ODP assessment.
I do not think there is any doubt that Class AA soccer is superior to Class A soccer (hard for it not to be). I'm also not sure I have read anywhere from anyone that states they are on the same level. Personally, what I can't understand (and possibly others out there - both AA and A readers - might agree), is why a few need to go to such lengths to belittle it. Putting on my "psychologist's hat" for a minute, I always thought that those who needed to tear down others to build themselves up were the ones with the self-esteem issues.......
8:18 a very detailed and pretty fair assessment, but how many of any of those players at any level you mentioned actually go out on own and practice or try to improve. Very few taking skills , weight training or speed acceleration without parental encouragement in club season or summer. Encourage parents after child 16 to let child push themselves and decide more of the training level and program individual wishes to compete at. The self discipline motivation and decision making they teach themselves far more important than the soccer improvement they achieve for teammates , coaches, or parents.
11:02:
I know one for sure that does, but I agree, most aren't that hungry, which is why 10-12 ever reach their own apex.
11:03:
I would add, show me a solid player that can run a 40 in a good time and who can actually play 80-90 minutes and she will go on and play after club/high school. There aren't many good players that can run and also have the stamina. Oh, and can they also "mix it up".
10:32 Exactly - knock down others to make yourself feel better. Typical bully mentality and I guess they are very lonely people.
10:32 and 11:17 This thread is about High School soccer. Let's keep MTA recruiting tactics out of this thread.
10:23... I'm begining to suspect your mom.
A vs. AA...
Yes, AA, is generally stronger. There are less schools (65 AA vs. 100+ A) so the range in A is also much, much greater. There are a handful of A schools that do well against AA schools in individual games. However, "A" schools lack depth and would struggle playing a complete schedule of AA opposition. There are some A schools that offer top notch coaching and playing experiences for student-athletes. My daughter's AA team played SPA a couple of weeks ago and I saw that they have Amos Magee and Lisa Bauer (former MAC and Woobury goalkeeper) on their coaching staff. I know Blake, Benilde, AHA etc...all have coaches that do a lot of development, teaching etc. that takes their kids to a nice, higher level within the obvious restrictions of the fall season. It would be neat to see what some of these coaches would do with some of the numbers/athletes that AA schools can consistently offer. For one, I wish my daughter had the opportunity to work during the fall season with the SPA or AHA or Blake etc...coaching staff. She does during the club season but I think it would make her fall even better.
So...AA is consistently better. Class A is not completely filled with slack-jawed, yokels who do not know soccer...in fact there are some really nice programs in the Class A mix.
All this discussion about Class A or AA soccer benefits means nothing if you over look two things , Is your daughter happy and being challenged academically and enjoying the high school experience. Will the school best serve as stepping stone for next challenge and give her the most options for consideration... and finally feel blessed that daughter is participant who will have higher grade point average , miss less school, and have the potential for greater success beyond high school than students that choose not to become involved in school activities.
8:18-Pretty good account of HS soccer, but stay away from talking about ODP, the armstrong player you speak of is a cery good HS player and a solid club player, but would never make the regional team if she participated in ODP.
I coach ND at Armstrong, certainly one the best players in MN - technically, tactically and certainly an athlete, she knows the game.
I am sure she would have made a region squad if she was interested in doing so.
I also coached ODP so , know the level.
It's a shame she is not staying to play for Gophesr next year
1:38: Yes, you do know what you're speaking of. Glad to see someone on here that does have a clue.
nice plug for your player...maybe you should have called the gophers and sold her to them, instead of to this blog
nice plug for your player...maybe you should have called the gophers and sold her to them, instead of to this blog
1:38: Has ND committed, to where?
"I am sure she would have made a region squad if she was interested in doing so."
LOL and I am sure my kid could have made a national team if only she had tried ODP, not fallen victim to ODP politics, etc etc etc. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. This gets more and more ridiculous. I am not trying to single out this example, anyone who would say something like this needs a reality check. We have seen it before from others.
2:17:
Have you seen ND play? If not, then shut up. If you have, state your qualifications, please.
Unless someone on this thread is the 1990 or 1991 regional ODP coach (not sure her birth year) and is familiar with her club performance than aren't we all just offering opinions (on both sides of the fence)?
Let's go back to talking about teams and not players.
Exactly. Saying a player would have been a region pool player (or would not have) that never was even at a region camp to compete with players of that level is a futile endeavour. 217 is exactly right in that respect.
same old tiresome discussions..........by parents of course.
Agree with 231. Parents, coaches, friends always want to brag about their player. Then comes the inevitable backlash from others who want to brag about their player and diminish others. And on and on it goes. There are always differences of opinions on the worth of a player. Even region and national level ODP coaches don't agree on who should be on their team. College coaches don't agree on who their school should recruit. Talk about teams, not about kids. After all opinions are like you know what.
Word is ND verballed to UW-Green Bay.
UW- Green Bay has 4 girls from MN committed.
I think there are more than that!
Does anyone have any scores from tonight?
LVS 3 Farmington 0 wet and nasty
Woodbury 6 - North St Paul 0
Green Bay has a lot of players coming to them from MN
White Bear beats Cretin in a shoot out. 0-0 through game and OT. Great Game!
Sounds like "me" is pitching his player for MS Soccer. Let's stay on topic; this thread is supposed to be about Section games. Section 7AA: Anoka beats Cambridge 1-0 on golden goal in OT.
Man, the MTA kids make a difference...
My daughter is an average player on a below average team (North). I was attending the 4AA first round game against Tartan earlier this week, and learned that three of Tartan's starters are MTA players, yet they only managed to win one game all season.
I guess MTA doesn't develop players like they claim. Wouldn't a team with three starters from MTA at least be competative if they were so good at developing their players?
Just a thought...
^^^ that's just silly. Can't you see the flaws in your "thought" ?
i didn't think they played 'golden goal' in h.s.?
9:16 - you might want to dig a bit deeper and find out what teams (and ages) the players are on before you share your "thoughts".
9:34 Golden Goal in Sections...2 ten minute OT's, golden goal.
regular season is 2 five minute OT's, NOT golden goal
I have no way to dig deeper. I know the girls' numbers and could easily find their names on the MSHSL Web site, but there's no way to cross reference that info with MTA.
My point is MTA puts down other clubs and even high school soccer at times. But a team with three of there players can only manage to win one game playing "inferior" high school soccer?
9:16 - I am pretty sure that the game is played 11v11 and NOT 11v3.
916, As a fellow North parent I take offense to your comments. Thanks for making the rest of us look like asses because you feel the need to rip MTA. Does it make you feel better to put something down. The MTA players on the Tartan team are I believe a couple Freshman and one senior. The rest are from Nesa and other community clubs. You are only as good as your weakest players and Unfortunately for both North and Tartan thats just plain ugly.
9:16/9:45 - this thread is about girls HS soccer. There are plenty of other threads for you to knock MTA on. Might I suggest that you have all your MTA facts lined up as the rebuttals will be fast and furious.
fun site to check out sectional matchups and "power rankings"
http://www.minnesota-scores.net/classstandings.php?yid=0809&sport=113&class=3
Question...
Have we always used golden goal in section OTs?
My memory isn't serving me well.
I thought I remembered kids playing complete OTs in years past.
Tartan's goals against were like 55+, think defense might of been the biggest failure for the team. Although they only had about 9 goals so you can't win many soccer games that way either.
I'm a Tartan parent, I don't know what an MTA players is, or even care, but I will say this.
The team is very young. Several freshman and sophomores on the field. They will get better in the next couple of years.
That said, the game against North on Tuesday was a fun game to watch. It was wet and muddy and both teams played hard.
And as far as my daughter goes, she had a blast that night. Isn't that why they're out there?
A majority of people who live in the North St. Paul / Oakdale area only know about NESA and OAA Rec soccer. That's why those teams aren't able to compete. It has been an untapped resource for years. I heard the Thunder sponsored the Younger ages. Smart move on their part. The Rec program has big numbers at the younger ages but loses at lot as they get older. With more kids getting better training and an affilaition with higher level clubs than NESA (Nothing against Nesa, but it is what it is (Parent coaching)) they should get better as time goes on.
Edina vs Chaksa tomorow .
For Edina it will be like a simple training session for their preparation of the EP / Jeff winner
at least 5-0 with the bench being on the field most of the second half
Go Hornets!
Glad you're happy with your Hornets. They are a good team that doesn't need your hype. Can't wait for them to take on WDB. Hope that last comment didn't jinx them.
Yes, Edina is a good team that plays maybe not the strongest teams at times, like most high school soccer. What's ruining it for the Edina girls is the comstant hype and touting of a couple of the players...#3 ring a bell?..who else but a parent would be so high on her. Enough! It's a TEAM, not just one player that makes the team. Makes the rest of the team look like just followers.
Get a life and stop living through your kid(s)!
9:57:
To add to your comments--great high school player vs. C-1 players, but sits with the Inferno vs. Elite level teams. Let's see how high #3 ends up after graduation. Same with the highly touted #4. We shall seeafter high school. Why no one likes Edina?
Quick picking on these high school kids you bunch of pompus asses. I don't care if they are from North or Tartan or Edina, they are just nice kids having a good time playing soccer until bozos like you screw it up. Grow up and please shut-up.
1025 - using your benchmark for success, 3's probably doomed as an adult. she'll just have to settle for joining her older sister at harvard and keep trying to make a success of herself in your silly little world. don't forget to color inside the lines jerk or she may fire you in a couple years!
play on!
ems
I have seen more silly posts re the RA player than any ED player. Why no outrage there?
Agree with 1042 but once again, if you must brag about your kid be prepared for the other side.
EVHS 2 AV 1
8:55:
Because ND's mom doesn't post here!
Again....no more discussions about individual players (any players, any numbers, etc.).....show some discipline.....how about some scores.....many games should be over by now.
EP 3 BJ 0
HM 2
WBL 3
Lakeville South 3 Rochester Mayo 0
wayzata 1 hopkins 0
any more scores?
any more scores?
One more note on ND. Earlier this fall she beat Wayzata pretty much by herself. Armstrong had no shots and no corners in the first half and Wayzata led 2-0 at halftime. ND had a hat trick in the 2nd half to win 3-2. All three goals were in the corner. She is an absolute sniper but her speed might be a problem in college D1.
Coon Rapid 2 Blaine 0
Mahtomedi 7 St. Paul Johnson 0
Edina 6 Chaska 1
Roch Century 1 Lakeville North 0
SPA 3 Minehaha 1
St. Croix Lutheran 1 Concordia 0
Apparently 301 is mistaken.
Anoka over Duluth ...
I'll take a passer over a speedy one dimensional up and downer every time. Passers make all their teamates better. The race horses are predictable and easily defended.I've only seen a couple of players who have outstanding on the ball skills this year.They are hard to find.The speedsters are a dime a dozen.
armstrong 3-1 v slp
Woodbury - Stillwater game cancelled due to weather. Rescheduled for Tuesday 10-14-08.
Any other scores or cancellations from saturday night?
Park/Eagan rescheduled for Monday at seven
What time is the Woodbury/Stillwater game on Tuesday?
in 3A I saw Blake 1-0 over Washburn, AHA 7-0 over DeLaSalle, and SPA over Minnehaha 3-1, but I haven't been able to find a sore for the Visitation game... anyone?
6-0
Any commentary on Washburn / Blake? Washburn put together a nice record, but didn't really have a tough schedule. But if a 1-0 result against the Bears was legit, plus their record look for another contender next year in the mighty 3A.
The Washburn team really stepped up this season. We had a great coaching staff and they did a wonderful job at helping these girls come together.
Washburn Parent
Washburn put together a nice effort against Blake. They really didn't press Blake offensively, but defensively they stymied Blake's constant attack and got them somewhat frustrated. The Washburn keeper kept them in the game by making a half dozen spectacular saves. They should be really happy with their performance.
The big four are left in 3A as predicted, should be an exciting pair of games on Tuesday. Any thoughts or predictions?
For anyone who has ever complained about the content on this girl's thread, feel free to compare it with the boy's threads and draw your own conclusions.
Does anyone know when the section brackets might get updated to reflect the dates and times of the rechecduled games from Saturday night?
Lightning delayed the MV-Osseo game for over an hour with 5:32 left in the first half, but they never pulled the players off the field. Osseo was down 1-0 and their coach seemed to be lobbying for a cancellation to get a restart at 0-0 today. If it was a safety issue, you would have thought that he would pull his players off the field and into the school or their bus.
MV controlled before the delay. After the delay Osseo was the aggressor until 25 minuted left in the game and they tied it during that stretch. MV ramped it up down the stretch and Osseo never really threatened after MV went up 2-1.
Should be a good game against Maple Grove. MV playing on grass could be interesting. Only played on it 5-6 times this year.
So much for any upsets.
16 total brackets
In Class A, except for Waconia (#5) in section 6A, all the other brackets have the top 4 seeds still alive.
In Class AA, except for WBL (#3) beating HM (#2) and Anoka (#3) beating Duluth East (#2) every other final is the top seed versus the second seed. There are two Class AA semi's that were postponed and need to be played (Park #2 vs. Eagan #3 and WDB #1 vs. Stillwater #4).
Oh my god... could it be... the coaches got the seeds right!?!?!
3A predictions... I would have gone with upset alert for SPA over AHA had AHA not backhanded a DeLaSalle team (7-0) that was right in the middle of the Tri-Metro (their only bad loss had been to Blake 5-1). Maybe I was believing this blog when I thought to myself AHA will be soft thinking that the home field will automatically equal wins.
The first game between these two was 1-0 and from all accounts AHA was the better (at SPA) but SPA could EASILY have tied or won with a flurry in the last 5 minutes. This should be a great semifinal.
As for the other one, this is Visitations chance to declare whether they are pretenders or contenders. Blake is vulnerable, as usual they are one of the best defensive teams in the state, if not THE best, but they clearly have not been the most high powered offensive team. Washburn gave a great effort, but Blake clearly struggled to finish (some) easy chances.
Personally, I will not be surprised by ANY combination of these 4 teams playing in the final, or winning that final. I also think whoever survives this section should be the #2 seed behind Mahtomedi, possibly the #1 if its Blake or AHA.
I would be shocked if Mahtomedi does not get the #1 state seed if they win their section. I also doubt they are taking either of their next two section opponents lightly (especially Simley).
10:28 - agreed, but the 3A champ should probably receive strong consideration for the #2 seed - that section is brutal.
How do they pick these sections? Is it geographic???
Very unfortunate for Park or Eagan that they will have to play on back to back nights against a rested Eastview team. Any thought to moving final game to TH as was done to accommodat the reschedule of the Woodbury/Stillwater game?
Park 2 Eagan 0
Easview will beat them handily any day of any week.
But oh GREAT flash in the sky.... true day of week not as important as site. May be folly to play Park, the lower seed on their own turf rather than grass team has played on all year. Trying to be nice FULL OF THEMSELVES CHARGED UP guy again..... this may strike back at you, having played only one game on turf against weak Apple Valley team. And this was considered after not being able to score once and losing there 1-0 previous year, following 2-1 (OT SO)near escape from Park. Gooood Luck. P.S. Lighting strikes thru the upright goal posts dont count for 3 points.
They already played the section semifinal on turf. It will have no effect.
So how did lower ranked Park get home field advantage on their turf? If the powers that be wanted a turf field at least it should have been a neutral site. I think it odd that anyone in this section agreed to this.
Yes Apple Valley on the boys side was the 1 seed and had to play 4 seeded Park at Park as well, it happens because Juba is the section Rep and decides all of this stuff
Is this the same Juba in star wars movie
That's not how it works... the section rep doesn't get to decide game locations. There's either A) another reason, or B) the coaches in that section are too stupid to realize they're being taken advantage of.
My bet is on "A"
not to mention Juba is the girls coach, so even if he was the rep for the girls in that section, he would have NOTHING to do with the boys. I wish people wouldn't just post assumptions and guesses on here, especially when it leads to character assassination, as it so often does.
and the verdict is in... 9:55 is a moron.
all coaches in a section must approve any changes. it may be that Park was the only school with turf, they used to play at Apple Valley, but after last years storms the fields were a wreck and everyone panicked
It's not the coaches who are being taken advantage...it's the players. Tough to get HS fans/supporters on the road during the week when school is not in session. Park will have a definite advantage playing at home on a field they are used to in front of a home town crowd.
Why did Park play at EVS last year then. IM told that EVS and mentioned above EVS feels superior enough to win regardless of playing surface and that follows earlier post touting them to be number 1 ranked team in state. So Park guess you wont be coming to dinner Sunday night at Excel. Hoping to get some autographs from EVS state champions.
10:19 Park played at Apple Valley High School's stadium last year not Eastview's. There would not have been a "mud bowl" if they played at Eastview.
LOL at 1014. I don't think the huge crowds you typically see at HS soccer games will give much of a home field advantage.
None of the EVHS parent/fan bravado on this thread is shared by the players. The coaches and players look at PCG as an extremely difficult challenge. Tough team, tough field. EVHS will have to play like they did against EP in order to win. (FYI, EVHS has been practicing at the Rosemount Dome and Lakeville North.)
could anyone explain what happened during the 3-2 loss against roch century for EVHS? I don't mean to poke fun- I really just wanted to hear what happened.
I think Park has great fan support! Lots of kids at last night's game against Eagan. The kid who spray painted his body was great! To have all of the kids standing along the front fence and screaming support is intimidating and priceless!
SO so sad for Park having to play the number 1 team in the State and have season end on their home field in front of all those screaming students.
EVHS vs. Rochester Century. First, credit has to be given to RC. They out hustled EV for most of the game. Latter part of the second half EV woke up. They carried the play and were storming the net. One player in particular had at least 5 high quality shots that hit the post or sailed wide. It was a good lesson for EV that if they don't bring their game the other team will.
10;32 where was EVS Vs. E.P. game played this year grass or turf.
!0:50--Home game for EV--grass.
3A Prediction for tonight's semifinals, upsets rule the night...
#4 SPA 3 #1AHA 0
#3 Vis 2 #2Blake 1
Final... #4 SPA 3 #3 Vis 1
SPA will reach the state final, losing only to Mahtomedi
It will be interesting to see how the state seeding goes with respect to RC and EV goes if both win. Last year EV felt that head to head results were more important than anything including conference finish and overall record. That is wrong IMO (as results showed in state tournament) and I wonder what their position will be this year? ED and WB will be 1-2, lots of uncertainty after that. If EV is somehow seeded ahead of Edina again this year there needs to be an investigation.
The seedings should not be as important this year. Last year sections 6, 7 and 8 all sent teams thatt were a notch or two below all the other teams so the difference between the third and fourth seeds was important. This year the only section that will send a team that is likely to be a big underdog is 8. Also I believe this year they only seed the top 4 and draw the rest. Is that correct?
THERE IS NO WAY AHA GETS UPSET, CENTER MIDFIELDER WILL CONTROL AND DICTATE MIDDLE AND CORNER KICKS ARE DEADLY.
Talk about seedings after tonight games. Premature and immature to speculate and ponder close games in several section finals, possible shootouts.
1-4 will be ranked and rest drawn at random for state seeding. Why should ED automatically get seeded ahead of EV? Why is WD automatically 1? ED and EV should be ahead of WD due to strenth of their schedules and the fact that they both go outside of conference to play tough competition, unlike the royals.
Agree, WD had to play Park twice (tied and won) and they tied EP. Outside of that their schedule is easy. MV is overrated and the rest of the conference is down
Woodbury will be seeded #1 because they've been rated #1 all season and they're undefeated. Why would that change now?
rankings are ridiculous and should play no part in this. a few years back, WD leap frogged other teams in the rankings when it came to state seeding why should this year be any different.
Woodbury has been seeded #1 in the state for at least the last 4 years. Why should this year be any different?
the coaches need to take into account strength of schedule, which woodbury lacks. and look at armstrong, they only played 12 games, that is ridiculous. you should not be rewarded ror a gaudy record when you do not do your best to play the best in the state, year in and year out woodbury plays the same teams and if their conference is down like this year (outside of park) they look like world beaters, when others are playing the best of other conferences- the LK, CL and NWS all seem to play one another, what is WD doing?
there is a reason SPA is ranked #4 and that is where they will probably stay unless there is an incredible upset. they are a good team, just not that good to go much farther. sorry.
Why is seeding important to win you need to win three games pretty simple. At the end the champion will be the team that wins three games.
I'm guessing that if you are the #1 seed then you would have to most likely play the #4 seed in the semi's. If there are 3 really good teams, then #2 & #3 would have to play each other in the other semi (assuming all 4 teams win their quarterfinal games). I agree that you still have to win three games, but there is usually an advantage to the top seed. Personally, I would rather play the #4 seed than be seeded #2 and play the #3 seed.
How many state championships does Woodbury have to win before you give them some credit here? Seems to me they are always in the top 3in the state (3rd place is a down year for them). And their conference has 4 teams in the section finals (Woodbury or Stillwater, WBL, MV, & Park)...I don't see any other conference with 4 AA finalists. I know you western suburb guys think it's cute to be so parochial, but get real.
I agree with 257 and I am a Park Parent.
Go Suburban East!!!! There is soccer east of the Mississippi.
EV 1 Park 0 Shootout Final
Park gets outcoached again. When yop play 24-30 players during the season then only play 14-16 players in sections this creates the problem of players not gelling with their passes and knowing where they are. Eastview and most of the better teams play with 14-16 players all year and it
showed tonight.
Also had a lot to do with Park having to play last night and Eastview being rested.
Edina-EP Score?
ep in pks
holy angels won
LS wins over RC
Park outcoached? They lost in a shoot out in the section Championship. Get a clue buddy. Unlucky Park...Nice season.
Wayzata 1 Armstrong 0
Wayzata played without 3 starting defenders, two of which are captains.
If they get well in time for state they might make some noise.
Vis 2-0 over Blake
They may but will need to stop teams with a lot more offensive talent than they saw in sections.
Mahtomedi 3 St.Croix Luthern 0
CakeEaters are finished? Blog posts will now be cut in half.
Any score on the WB STILL game?
Congrats EP, EV, WYZ & LS!
Woodbury has played 14 suburban east conference games and played two teams outside of their conference - Eden Prarie and Mahtomedi - 2 of the top teams in the state, year after year. How many more games and against who do you want them to play?
Woodbury beat Stillwater 3-0.
Any score on the Maple grove - Moundsview game?
Suburban east fan. The Lake Conference has three teams in THE STATE TOURNEY. The Lake is the deepest toughest in the state, year in year out.
How do you play 24-30 players when you can only have 22 on a team? Is that the NEW math?
anyone know why Armstrong played so few games? tough to beat a good team three times
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