With surprise winners at last years Boy's finals, who are some of the favorites coming into this fall season? Who are some of the top players in the metro area?
Name the "big boys" teams if you can? I'm going to watch Osseo vs Armstrong tomorrow.
Anonymous said... Whitney is a great player there is no doubt about that, but he is exploiting poor defenses and a system of play that plays into him, I would be willing to bet in the last 2 years he hasn't scored more than 15 goals for the wings, who were relegated from premier this summer, he deserves the accolades as a great player, but the stats are a pretty inflated, good luck to him and osseo the rest of the year, but we will see exactly how good both of them are if they get a chance to play any of the big boys in sections or state because they arent playing them in the regular season
It's been said before that Danny doesn't know offense. It should be pretty obvious now. Rather than build the team to the players stengths he always forces his teams to play his boring non creative easily defended style.Lots of Jag talent being wasted. That's his MO.
Xman I'm looking to attend that one as well. Do you really see a beating? Have you seen any of these teams play as of yet? Lakeville North has the nucleus of the team back from last year, have speed and are playing well. Apple Valley fairly young from the looks of the roster however a superior coaching staff for these kinds of games. Also playing over on turf. Does that change the prediction a little? Interested in hearing your opinion.
From what I've seen players playing in the summer, those AV boys are good and with better coaching staff they can be better. No I haven't seen these teams played yet. Lakeville North kinda surprised me. It should be a good game to watch.
I would say I too am surprised by Lakeville North. They lost their keeper, center back, center mid and top goal scorer from last year. Not to mention other seniors who played big roles. From the looks of their roster, it looks like they have a lot of seniors but only a handful who played last year.
If they continue on this track, Tuesday against AV should be a great game on the turf. Both teams have speed and some skilled players. Coaching will factor into it as will the pride of the players. Right now, these two teams are the top of the Lake (by record at least) and will be fighting for that #1 spot in this game.
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I watched the Osseo/Armstrong game. 1-0 Osseo at half. Armstrong figured out how to win--they pressured the Osseo D, which is clearly their week-spot. The Osseo Mids were better than Armstrong and were playing with some control. When Osseo built and played into the box to their forwards, the Armstrong players collapsed in and packed the box. Basically looking to counter, they would boot the ball down to pressure the mediocre Osseo D, who then gave up an own goal. 2nd goal was also mis-cue related--no real offense except pressure.
Lots of people playing close on Whitney Brown. He's a marked man.
Went to see it and saw a beautiful game played by Osseo but lacking finishing. It could be really bad for Armstrong if those easy chances were put away. All Armstrong could do most of the time were put 9 guys in back-third and played counter-attack which worked. No need to say if they meet again I think Osseo will win...oh yeah if they can put those easy goals away. I think Armstrong should be in top 10 now after a hard week.
Whitney is fast with good touch and I can see how he scored those many goals. Osseo dominates the midfield plays and set him up to finish. Not saying he doesn't work hard to ditch defenders and get the shots off. From this game, I think Osseo has the best midfield game in metro area.
MacArthur was on SSM team two years ago I believe. He mostly played right flank and attacking inside. He's good player in very weak conference so he should be able to pile up the goals.
Anonymous said... No doubt MacArthur is solid but some of the teams he plays are terrible, Classic 3 level at the High School Varsity.....
Yes Osseo defense can learn lessons from Armstrong. There were too many chances that Osseo could have put the game away but shot straight to keeper. I like Armstrong defense and Osseo attacking game.
me xman don't fall in love to quick. Things to ponder. Was Armstrongs missing any players due to red cards issued in the Edina game? From what I've read on the site, it was a middle midfielder they were missing. Also sounds like they were stil able to figured out how to win even with missing players.
IMHO - WB starts reading his press an become less and less effective. Osseo finishes 2nd or 3rd in their conference and loses the first game in sectionals.
EP-Totino was 1-1 with 20 minutes left. EP had more of the run of the game. EP is w/o one of their captains. I assume a minor as the captainship was taken away
Top 10 - Saturday 9/6 Result 1. Apple Valley (off) 2. Edina (Edina 2, Heritage Christian 0) 3. Eden Prairie (Eden Prairie 2, Totino-Grace 1) 4. St. Louis Park (11:00 AM home vs Columbia Height) 5. Osseo (Robbinsdale Armstrong 2, Osseo 1) 6. Stillwater (White Bear Lake 2, Stillwater Area 1) 7. Anoka (off) 8. Coon Rapids (Coon Rapids 2, SC Apollo/Sauk Rapids-Rice 0) 9. Lakeville North (Rochester Mayo 3, Lakeville North 1) 10. Champlin Park (off) 10. Wayzata (off)
Anyone got St. Louis Park vs Columbia Height score?
I think they'll do better without Ralphie Duopu. Yes they did find a way to win but not w/o Osseo's help. There were like 2-3 times I believe Ahmad Bah staring at open net and shot straight to keeper. A few corrections on finishing and they'll be good. Count number of attacks and no doubts Osseo dominated the midfield and attacking plays. Someday you play hard and still lose. But overall I see Osseo better.
BTW, I'm impressed with Ahmad Bah and Lucas Hoang and they could be in All State team along with Whitney Browne. Those two are skillful and got speed and endurance.
Whitney got yellow card with his mouth and yes his mental game has some work to do. From the look at coaching staff I think he'll be corrected.
Anonymous said... me xman don't fall in love to quick. Things to ponder. Was Armstrongs missing any players due to red cards issued in the Edina game? From what I've read on the site, it was a middle midfielder they were missing. Also sounds like they were stil able to figured out how to win even with missing players.
IMHO - WB starts reading his press an become less and less effective. Osseo finishes 2nd or 3rd in their conference and loses the first game in sectionals.
XMan Top 10 - Week of 9/8 1. Apple Valley (7-0-0) 2. Eden Prairie (4-0-2) 3. St. Louis Park (4-0-1) 4. Edina (7-1-1) 5. Armstrong (6-1-2) 6. Osseo (4-1-1) 7. Anoka (3-0-2) 8. Coon Rapids (6-1-1) 9. Lakeville North (7-1) 10. Wayzata (1-1-4)
Top 10 in Action - Monday 9/8 1. Apple Valley (off) 2. Eden Prairie (off) 3. Edina (Away 7:00 PM Wayzata) 4. Armstrong (Away 5:00 PM Minnetonka) 5. St.Louis Park (Home 5:00 PM Hopkins) 6. Osseo (Home 7:00 PM Anoka) 7. Lakeville North (off) 8. Coon Rapids (Away 7:00 PM Champlin Park) 9. Anoka (Away 7:00 PM Osseo) 10. Woodbury (Home 5:00 PM Cretin-Derham Hall)
Games to watch Anoka vs. Osseo | 7:00 PM at Osseo Robbinsdale Armstrong vs. Minnetonka | 5:00 PM at Minnetonka Coon Rapids vs. Champlin Park | 7:00 PM at Champlin Park Hopkins vs. St. Louis Park | 5:00 PM at St. Louis Park Cretin-Derham Hall vs. Woodbury | 5:00 PM at Woodbury
Predictions Edina 2-0 Wayzata Armstrong 1-1 Minnetonka Hopkins 2-1 St.Louis Park Osseo 3-1 Anoka Champlin Park 1-1 Coon Rapids Cretin-Derham Hall 3-1 Woodbury
Top 10 in Action - Monday 9/8 Results 1. Apple Valley (off) 2. Eden Prairie (off) 3. Edina (Edina 1, Wayzata 0) Won 4. Armstrong (Armstrong 1, Minnetonka 2) Lost 5. St.Louis Park (St.Louis Park 1, Hopkins 2) Lost 6. Osseo (Osseo 2, Anoka 1) Won 7. Lakeville North (off) 8. Coon Rapids (Coon Rapids 1, Champlin Park 0) Won 9. Anoka (Anoka 1, Osseo 2) Lost 10. Woodbury (Woodbury 3, Cretin-Derham Hall 4) Lost
Games to watch - Results Anoka 1-2 Osseo Robbinsdale Armstrong 1-2 Minnetonka Coon Rapids vs. Champlin Park | 7:00 PM at Champlin Park Hopkins 2-1 St. Louis Park Cretin-Derham Hall 4-3 Woodbury
Predictions - Results Edina 2-0 Wayzata (Final: Edina 1-0 Wayzata) Yes Armstrong 1-1 Minnetonka (Final: Armstrong 1-2 Minnetonka) No Hopkins 2-1 St.Louis Park (Final: Hopkins 2-1 St.Louis Park) YES! Osseo 3-1 Anoka (Final: Osseo 2-1 Anoka) Yes Champlin Park 1-1 Coon Rapids (Final: Champlin Park 0-1 Coon Rapids ) No Cretin-Derham Hall 3-1 Woodbury (Final: Cretin-Derham Hall 4-3 Woodbury) YES! 4 winners out of 6 ain't bad...
Predicted two upsets with Hopkins over St.Louis Park and Cretin-Derham Hall over Woodbury and right on with those two.
Armstrong ran out of luck with their boot-n-go game against Minnetonka I see. Any game summary here will be great.
Like I said before about Anoka Head Coach, he should leave the program. He's making a farce of himself. Plenty of PO'ed parents I hear.
St.Louis Park finally playing a real team and result showed. Hopkins is a decent team. Osseo midfield and attacking game is by far one of the best in state. Defense needs some work. Anoka should be off top 10 now.
Cretin-Derham Hall is a darkhorse and coming on strong? Five victories streak so far. They should be above Coon Rapids in top 10.
Coon Rapids haven't faced real tough metro teams yet.
Top 10 in Action - Tuesday 9/9 1. Apple Valley (Away 7:00 PM at Lakeville North) 2. Eden Prairie (Home 7:00 PM vs Eagan) 3. Edina (off) 4. Armstrong (off) 5. St.Louis Park (off) 6. Osseo (off) 7. Lakeville North (Home 7:00 PM vs Apple Valley) 8. Coon Rapids (off) 9. Anoka (off) 10. Woodbury (off)
Games to watch Apple Valley vs. Lakeville North | 7:00 PM at Lakeville North Eagan vs. Eden Prairie | 7:00 PM at Eden Prairie Bloomington Jefferson vs. Lakeville South | 7:00 PM at Lakeville South I'm running out of ideas...
Predictions Apple Valley 1-0 Lakeville North Eden Prairie 3-0 Eagan Bloomington Jefferson 3-1 Lakeville South
I looked at Cretin's record. It's interesting to see them get pounded the first couple of games, and then start getting good wins against decent teams like Coon Rapids and Woodbury.
Edina is a fantastic team. Very strong. I was surprised by the loss to Armstrong. I would not expect that many more losses. After watching them play earlier this season, I would have thought them to be top 3. Maybe now top 5.
Edina played the best game I've seen and I've seen most of the top 10 including AV and EP. I saw them at Braemar. It might be different for them on their turf. More impressive than EP, far more impressive than AV.
Hill-Murray has to be thrown into the mix along with Edina, AV, and EP. They are 4-2-1 coming off a tough battle with Tartan and are tied for 1st in the Classic Suburban. After losing 10 starters, this team shows that it is not rebuilding - it's reloading. I see them defeating Edina in the ship and Jeff Peick winning Mr. Soccer with Jefferson HS nowhere to be seen.
the problem is that no one can be in the same conversation as AV right now they are ranked 23rd in the country and still the only perfect team in the state after beating LN 3-1 tonight behind goals from Winkler, Johnson, and Obarski, until someone dethrones them they are the head of the class
Eden Prairie will dethrone A.V. as they are much more creative and have several more offensive weapons. They will also have a distinct advantage on the turf for this matchup. Summer success has spilled into the High School season as many have played together and have very good chemistry.
It's funny that a previous blogger said EP is good, but has problems scoring goals. Yet the above blogger praises EP for their creativity and numerous offensive weapons.
It is so confusing here in MN.
How does a Minnesotan gauge creativity and offensive ability?
Shane is still out with an injury, I believe it is day to day. My guess he'll give it a go for the "Big Game" on Saturday. Maradona, how do you gauge creativity and offensive ability?
The praise probably coming from someone who has actually seen them play a few different times. Unlike many opinions on this log, most are formed from very little exposure to games other than what team there son is playing on.
The funny thing is that everything that 10:56 said is jut as true about AV as EP, AV is the more creative ones and have more than doubled EP in goals in the same amount of games, I don't think that the turf has one bit of advantage either way and 9 of the AV boys all played summer premier soccer together since they were 9 years old, I would say that is some chemistry
Top 10 in Action - Tuesday 9/9 Results 1. Apple Valley (Apple Valley 3, Lakeville North 1) 2. Eden Prairie (Eden Prairie 3, Eagan 0) 3. Edina (off) 4. Armstrong (off) 5. St.Louis Park (off) 6. Osseo (off) 7. Lakeville North (Apple Valley 3, Lakeville North 1) 8. Coon Rapids (off) 9. Anoka (off) 10. Woodbury (off)
Games to watch Apple Valley 3-1 Lakeville North Eagan 0-3 Eden Prairie
Predictions Apple Valley 1-0 Lakeville North (Final: Apple Valley 3-1 Lakeville North) Yes Eden Prairie 3-0 Eagan (Final: Eden Prairie 3-0 Eagan) YES!
What I don't understand is why it is such a crime to play a direct style of soccer, why does everything have to be all this possession, how do you win soccer games? you score more goals than the other team, playing with a direct purpose is not a "bad" way to play soccer, if anything playing with 70-80% of the possession and never scoring any goal to me is a "bad" way to play soccer because you arent going to win very many games that way, counter attacking, free kicks, and playing direct is how you win games at any level, not possession
watch an EPL game sometime and look at how they score goals its not some great buildup, its on one of those three ways, the reason more players from the US dont play in the EPL or why our national team struggles at times is because we look at possession being the way to play the "beautiful" game, from top to bottom in the US that is the way it is looked at
1:06pm Didn't realize A.V. has been together for so long...stand corrected. Obviously explains why they too are having so much succes. I do disagree however about the turf not being an advantage. Most coaches are voting to play on turf at nuetral sites and giving up hosting in the section tournament. That tells you something. A.V. is very good but I don't think you can use the goals for, as a barometer. E.P. beat an eagan 3-0 which isn't all that strong, yet A.V. barely beat them at there house by a score of 1 -0. Either way, I can't wait for the game on saturday.
me xman...way to go out on a limb with your predications. Your like the gambler in vegas, only hearing about the winnings, never the loses. I will admit though you nailed the scores. Can you tell us who will the election?
I rather like to live peacefully than to ruin a good thing going here. Let's not discuss politics here.
Anonymous said... me xman...way to go out on a limb with your predications. Your like the gambler in vegas, only hearing about the winnings, never the loses. I will admit though you nailed the scores. Can you tell us who will the election? 10/9/08 2:04 PM
You're confused. Find a post from Maradona where he complained about development. Maradona complains about the people who complain about development. Maradona complains about people who complain about coaches and clubs. Put up or shut up is exactly right.
Also, Maradona isn't just sitting on the sidelines.
I'm led to believe the "direct" play is more a result of a lack of ability rather than an intentional tactic. The good players try to possess, the bad players are kicking it down field.
Maradona do something then. Bravo 5:47pm I think Maradona and the ax man are in the wrong business. One reads the paper to us, the other wants change but doesn't want to get involved.
You're a short-sighted person. Read my comments and predictions. See it for yourself. Of course you know more than I do...pfleese...
Anonymous said... Maradona do something then. Bravo 5:47pm I think Maradona and the ax man are in the wrong business. One reads the paper to us, the other wants change but doesn't want to get involved. 10/9/08 8:27 PM
It's not the development needs to be changed. It's the culture and mindset need to be changed. Why change when you have success at boot-n-chase game. The grassroot coaches are the ones that can change the development. If these coaches know more about football, basketball, and hockey than soccer and want quick goals then forget about development for the kids in how to handle the ball. Boot-n-chase is the game in town. But it's changing gradually for the better in last 10 years. The change is not fast but it's getting better. MYSA is doing what it can to help the grassroot coaches to be better.
I agree with both xman and maradonna here regarding the direct style of play. This high school season I am seeing several players who during the summer have had very little sucess because they don't know how to turn with the ball. But in H.S. when the ball is launched out in front of them they can now score tons of goals. WB is a good example of this. On the same hand I've also seen many a very skilled midfielder get absolutely frustrated because their H.S. forwards are not checking to the ball and are left dribbling around looking for options other than the launch.
assman - Tell us what MYSA has done to help the grassroot coaches be better now, that hadn't been taking place years ago. What has changed. I agree soccer continues to evolve, why. Your not saying MYSA is the reason are you? The main reason the game is changing, is you are now getting coaches who have actually played the game. Eventually, the same for officiating will hold true.
MYSA has done a good job at grassroot level. The top level is another story but in general I like what MYSA has done for MN kids and coaches. Like the saying "You can lead horses to water but you can't make them drink". MYSA presents plenty opportunities for all coaches to learn coaching techniques and strategy. It's up to the coaches to get off their butts and take advantage of it. Ian barker and John Curtis have done a good job (Ian has left MYSA). Sure you have coaches who have played the game and now coaching which is very good but in general they're at top levels and not at grassroot level.
I completely agree with MeXman above. Football is improving. Football has been improving. It's a cultural issue more than a coaching/club/organization issue. Coaches/clubs/MYSA are doing their best. Players and parents are not. Players don't play enough. Parents don't educate themselves. Neither watch enough games on TV or at NSC.
Parents shouldn't complain about coaches/clubs/MYSA. It will be a slow process in the States.
Me xman, you continue to regurgitate your posts with no examples. I do agree with Maradona on his observations on players and parents. We still have a few years before the education thing takes care of itself as former players become parents and their children are playing the game. The process is slow no doubt. Well said Maradona...there is only one Maradona.
Top 10 in Action - Thursday 9/11 1. Apple Valley (Home 5pm vs Bloomington Kennedy) 2. Eden Prairie (Away 5pm at Rosemount) 3. Edina (Home 7pm vs Minnetonka) 4. Armstrong (off) 5. St.Louis Park (Away 5pm at Spring Lake Park) 6. Osseo (Away 5pm at Centennial) 7. Lakeville North (Away 5pm at Chaska) 8. Coon Rapids (Home 5pm vs Elk River) 9. Anoka (Home 5pm vs Park Center) 10. Woodbury (off)
Games to watch Minnetonka vs. Edina | 7:00 PM at Edina Park Center vs. Anoka | 5:00 PM at Anoka Elk River vs. Coon Rapids | 5:00 PM at Coon Rapids Wayzata vs. Hopkins | 5:00 PM at Hopkins St. Louis Park vs. Spring Lake Park | 5:00 PM at Spring Lake Park
Predictions Minnetonka 1-3 Edina Park Center 2-1 Anoka Elk River 1-1 Coon Rapids Wayzata 2-1 Hopkins St. Louis Park 2-1 Spring Lake Park
Whitney is bad example for boot-n-chase game. From what I've observed, WB has good techniques and fast and do play with midfielders and can dribble around defenders.
The good example is Armstrong's game and Ryan Erhardt. Boot from the backfield to Ryan to chase and score. I wouldn't say he dribbled around the defenders to score.
Anonymous said... I agree with both xman and maradonna here regarding the direct style of play. This high school season I am seeing several players who during the summer have had very little sucess because they don't know how to turn with the ball. But in H.S. when the ball is launched out in front of them they can now score tons of goals. WB is a good example of this. On the same hand I've also seen many a very skilled midfielder get absolutely frustrated because their H.S. forwards are not checking to the ball and are left dribbling around looking for options other than the launch. 10/9/08 11:28 PM
Maybe the Wings u-16 team this summer should have played more direct instead of just passing the ball around and they would have won some games this summer, obviously they had some goal scorers, both WB and RE, but were unable to score goals all summer, weird how direct play can lead to more goals and thus more wins
Compared to Ill ,OH etc MN coaches at all inferior. To coach in those states you have to have 3-5 years training on how to develop players.
Our local band of good ol boy coaches circle the wagons and disagree. They blame everybody but themselves. MN coaches would never get hired in Ill etc...
If you have a kid with ON THE BALL SKILLS he'll be bored stiff here in MN.
Is Dave Marshak, who won State Championships while coaching in Ohio, inferior now because these days he coaches here in Minnesota? Or is he the only decent coach in the state?
Overall yes there are many HS coaches that shouldn't be there like Anoka's. Each school has different goals and most of them putting education first and need a warm body for soccer EXCEPT for sports like FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL, HOCKEY. They really care about these three because of gate receipts. Don't shoot down those golden geese.
Minnetonka has similar game like Armstrong IMO. I think Edina will dominate the game and put in more goals this time.
me xman, do you think E.P. is doing well because of the coach or because of a good summer program. High School coaches are playing the hand that they've been dealt.
1:29pm 3-5 years of training...rubbish. Show us a resource supporting this. Other than a personal experience of a washed out coach or a (your) kid get that got whacked from a squad.
PFLEESE!! Don't forget it was last year and that Premier team was handed to Pete and he just let them do whatever they wanted. They won it themselves and not the head coach...pfleese...have you talked to Anoka parents lately?
Anonymous said... me xman...yet Anoka wins a championship. You continue to contradict your own blogs. 11/9/08 2:50 PM
Yes the summer Premier team and especially Wayne and EPSC have had helped that team a great deal.
Anonymous said... me xman, do you think E.P. is doing well because of the coach or because of a good summer program. High School coaches are playing the hand that they've been dealt. 11/9/08 2:47 PM
Any scores on these games? I want to see how I do on my predictions.
Minnetonka vs. Edina | 7:00 PM at Edina Park Center vs. Anoka | 5:00 PM at Anoka Elk River vs. Coon Rapids | 5:00 PM at Coon Rapids Wayzata vs. Hopkins | 5:00 PM at Hopkins St. Louis Park vs. Spring Lake Park | 5:00 PM at Spring Lake Park
Centennial is supposed to be one of the tough games in that Conference. MG and CP tied--two penalty kicks. I remember when CP was a "dark horse." They are not good. A few really good players but not even a real starting 11.
Wow! How could the Ref (not center but two assistants as well) counted that? All throw-ins must touched another player before it's counted as goal. It's like indirect kick. I think Park Center Head Coach should protest to the league.
Diego M never passed the ball unless he absolutely had to. He dribbled the field and SCORED. People like to see goals scored. Makes the game exciting. And if you can exploit a defenses lack of speed, do it! If you have a player who can pinpoint a ball to another in the box, do it! If you can possess and pick and choose the attack, do it! Score goals and crush the other team. You only live once.
I thought Minnetonka looked pretty good beating Hopkins and Armstrong. Edina beat Minnetonka handily, they move the ball better than any team I have seen this year including EP. Have not seen AV. Edina is strong in the middle many kids with great ball skills. Edina should do well. How did they lose to Armstong 4-2?
It seems the best way for Anoka to find the back of the net is off of those long throw ins. Either by smashing the ball off of the oppositions face or throwing it straight into the goal. They have great centerbacks, goalkeeping, and a few other solid kids. If only they had somebody who could score a goal the conventional way they would be doing well again this year. That or if they fired their coach...either one. Right xman? pflease...
oh yeah, what is with the pflease thing? Am I missing something?
"Edina played the best game I've seen and I've seen most of the top 10 including AV and EP. I saw them at Braemar. It might be different for them on their turf. More impressive than EP, far more impressive than AV.
9/9/08 2:18 PM"
It was said that Armstrong bullied them. Perhaps Edina isn't able to possess the ball as well on turf. It's a shame if that's the case because all these schools are getting turf and Edina played a very nice brand of soccer at Braemar.
Top 10 in Action - Thursday 9/11 Results 1. Apple Valley (Apple Valley 3-1 Bloomington Kennedy) Won 2. Eden Prairie (Eden Prairie 4, Rosemount 0) Won 3. Edina (Edina 4-0 Minnetonka) Won 4. Armstrong (off) 5. St.Louis Park (St.Louis Park 3, Spring Lake Park 0) Won 6. Osseo (Osseo 2, Centennial 1) Won 7. Lakeville North (Lakeville North 1, Chaska 3) Lost 8. Coon Rapids (Coon Rapids 2, Elk River 0) Won 9. Anoka (Anoka 2, Park Center 1 OT) Won 10. Woodbury (off)
Games to watch - Results Minnetonka 0-4 Edina Park Center 1-2 Anoka (OT) Elk River 0-2 Coon Rapids Wayzata vs. Hopkins St.Louis Park 3-0 Spring Lake Park
Predictions - Results Minnetonka 1-3 Edina (Final: Minnetonka 0-4 Edina) Yes Park Center 2-1 Anoka (Final: Park Center 1-2 Anoka) No Elk River 1-1 Coon Rapids (Final: Elk River 0-2 Coon Rapids) No Wayzata 2-1 Hopkins (Final: Wayzata 2-1 Hopkins) YES! St.Louis Park 2-1 Spring Lake Park (Final: St.Louis Park 3-0 Spring Lake Park) Yes 3 out of 5 right. Not doing so well this time. I counted on upset with Park Center and Elk River will put up a good game but guess not.
Break down even more??? Yes Lakeville North is out of the running for the conference title. Getting back on track is the focus right now. The next couple of games should get them thinking about winning again with a couple of easier games coming up. All the pressure is off with the lofty expectations that were on this team in defense of the conference title. 8:39am you must me an ex lakeville players parent.
me xman on the game to watch...I want a full post game re-cap. As I know you will be there for this game. Almost has a championship feel to it. Early prediction?
B-ville scored two goals off of corners and one off of a cross. Play was not lopsided, either, as each team had many good chances, and neither team had much possession. The reality is that neither of these teams is a threat to beat any of the top teams right now.
You're right it could be the State Championship game between EP and AV. I've got a wedding to go tomorrow and I'm kicking myself right now. ARGH!!!
BTW, I have a tight game and EP is the winner. EP 4-3 AV.
Anonymous said... me xman on the game to watch...I want a full post game re-cap. As I know you will be there for this game. Almost has a championship feel to it. Early prediction? 12/9/08 9:20 AM
Me xman, that's a shame. I too have it being a close one. Scanlon always seems to have a horse shoe with him at these big games. However I have E.P. in this one as well. This game fairly meaningless (bragging rights only) as I see them meeting again it the big dance. Then an opposite result of this outcome.
In response to the CP dark horse comment from above. Talked to one of their parents the other night, they have a multitude of injuries. So, saying they do not have 11 players is correct. It sounded like some of their players are out for the season. The injury factor is a big part of high school soccer, as most teams do not have much depth. I think that maybe the one big advantage EP has on all the other teams.
In response to the CP dark horse comment from above. Talked to one of their parents the other night, they have a multitude of injuries. So, saying they do not have 11 players is correct. It sounded like some of their players are out for the season. The injury factor is a big part of high school soccer, as most teams do not have much depth. I think that maybe the one big advantage EP has on all the other teams.
I wonder how much the Champlin Park booster club is paying for that expensive coach in addition to school district is paying him. The required booster fee is expensive one.
The coach is strickly getting paid by the school district. The expensive booster fee is because the past coach did not collect uniforms. Complain all you want about PH in Anoka, last years CP coach makes him look like Buzz Lago's. No disrespect intended toward Buzz :)
PH was trashed eariler on the blog and is the coach from Anoka. I think by me xman? Don't know him, nor his teams.
Most HS coaches are good guys who put in tons of hours and time for peanuts. I don't know of any Booster Club that is supplementing the coaches salary paid by the high school. Most do clinic and camps if they are looking to supplement their incomes. In otherwords providing a service.
If you've been around, you know that PH is a competitor. I've coached against him--and won. He is a nut. But he likes his guys and sticks up for them. Does he know a lick about soccer? Probably not.
7 goals in EP AV game? No way. I'm thinking two quality teams will have 3-2 tops, more likely 2 goals wins it.
Top 10 in Action - Saturday 9/13 1. Apple Valley (Away 1PM at Eden Prairie) 2. Eden Prairie (Home 1PM vs Apple Valley) 3. Edina (off) 4. Armstrong (Home 1PM vs Totino-Grace) 5. St.Louis Park (off) 6. Osseo (Home 1PM vs Irondale) 7. Lakeville North (Home 1PM vs Bloomington Jefferson) 8. Coon Rapids (off) 9. Anoka (Home 1PM vs Rochester John Marshall) 10. Woodbury (Home 7PM vs Park of Cottage Grove)
Games to watch Apple Valley vs. Eden Prairie | 1:00 PM at Eden Prairie Totino-Grace vs. Robbinsdale Armstrong | 1:00 PM at Robbinsdale Armstrong Prior Lake vs. Shakopee | 11:00 AM at Shakopee
Predictions Apple Valley 3-4 Eden Prairie Totino-Grace 2-1 Robbinsdale Armstrong Prior Lake 2-1 Shakopee
This was not a 5-1 game however Valley should have has 2 easily if not a third. Valley's starting goalie gave up two terrible goals one from 30-35 yards out from the sideline that just kinda rolled to the side net he dove came up short all he had to do was shuffle his feet over he had the time. He is not a solid goalie in his first game being tested. Valley's outside Defenders struggled as well but had good sweeper play. EP scored a header from 18 yards out good placement but again not enough pace on it and the goalie should have gotten over to it. I have seen both AV goalies play now after seeing the senior today finally, the Sophomore was during summer ball watching the premier league U16 Valley now U17 and he is the better goalie he should come off the bench. The second half was better play from EP than AV but Valey still had chances including one that the EP defenders really saved the goalie by clearing the ball off the line a couple 3-4 times when it was 3-1. I would say both teams could easily see eachother again in state. Ep's first half goal was a terrible clearance by an AV outside defender right at an EP's forward foot he beat the goalie then near post. AV is a good team with talent but needs the defense to stay back and mark and also avoiding giving up bad goals. The game would have had a very strong finish if that where to happen, but it didn't and ep took it. See them both at state I dont see anyone beating either when you look at their sections.
That Valley Parent post is hilarious,god sweeper play but conceded 5 goals,could of been a good finish etc. Get over it,1 5 is not a close game,goalies dont score goals
Not a Valley parent actually and if you were at the game you would understand he was in no way to blame like I said the outside D is where they were beat. I think EP parents need to relax from watching the game from the stands I was irritated and moved away from everyone but thats besides the point. I see no insight on the game from your post.
Whats going on with Champlin Park? They have some good club players and a very good Coach. They just lost to Rogers..... Rogers is a very young determined squad but.....wow
Top 10 in Action - Saturday 9/13 Results 1. Apple Valley (Apple Valley 1-5 Eden Prairie) Lost 2. Eden Prairie (Eden Prairie 5-1 Apple Valley) Won 3. Edina (off) 4. Armstrong (Armstrong 1-2 Totino-Grace) Lost 5. St.Louis Park (off) 6. Osseo (Osseo 2-1 Irondale) Won 7. Lakeville North (Lakville North 0-0 Bloomington Jefferson) Tied 8. Coon Rapids (off) 9. Anoka (Anoka 4-0 Rochester John Marshall) Won 10. Woodbury (off)
Games to watch - Results Apple Valley 1-5 Eden Prairie Totino-Grace 2-1 Robbinsdale Armstrong Prior Lake 1-0 Shakopee
Predictions - Results Apple Valley 3-4 Eden Prairie (Final: Apple Valley 1-5 Eden Prairie) Yes! Totino-Grace 2-1 Robbinsdale Armstrong (Final: Totino-Grace 2-1 Robbinsdale Armstrong) YES! Prior Lake 2-1 Shakopee (Final: Prior Lake 1-0 Shakopee) Yes!
o 3-for-3...not bad at all. o Armstrong should drop to 9th or 10th place in ranking after 2 losses. o Cretin-Derham Hall and Totino-Grace should be in Top 10. o Anoka should be out Top 10
XMan Top 10 - Week 9/15 1. Eden Prairie (7-0-2) 2. Apple Valley (9-1-0) 3. Edina (9-1-1) 4. Osseo (7-1-1) 5. St.Louis Park (7-1-1) 6. Cretin-Derham Hall (6-3) 7. Coon Rapids (8-1-1) 8. Armstrong (6-3-2) 9. Prior Lake (5-1-3) 10. Bloomington Jefferson (5-2-2)
So what if TG is in Class A. I find it very hard to not reconginze them as a top 10 team in the state because of their class. They just beat Armstrong and lost a very tight game to EP. I can't understand how CR or Prior Lake is ranked in top 10 and not TG.
Coaches polls are AA and A. Nobody's trying to exclude your favorite team, just saying that AA and A teams are separate in polls typically. You want a general top 10 poll, put 'em in there
MN Coaches Top 10 - Week 9/15 CLASS 2A BOYS POLL 1. Eden Prairie (7-0) 2. Edina (9-1) 3. Apple Valley (9-1) 4. Osseo (7-1) 5. Coon Rapids (8-1) 6. St. Louis Park (7-1) 7. Anoka (6-2) 8. Maple Grove (5-0) 9. Woodbury (4-2) 10. Robbinsdale Armstrong (6-3)
Others receiving votes: Cretin-Derham Hall, Lakeville North, Minneapolis Southwest Class 2A Ranking Provided By: Coaches Association
o Anoka and Maple Grove get in Top 10? Pfleese!!! o Maple Grove couldn't win last two games and beat up on weak teams. o Both Anoka and Maple Grove will be out of ranking next week. o Centennial is much better than Maple Grove and Anoka. o Cretin-Derham Hall and Prior Lake should have been in Top 10 this week.
Coaches like Northwest Suburban Conference teams? Four teams and they're almost half of Top 10. Two from Lake. Two from Classic Lake. One each from North Suburban and Suburban East.
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Whitney is a great player there is no doubt about that, but he is exploiting poor defenses and a system of play that plays into him, I would be willing to bet in the last 2 years he hasn't scored more than 15 goals for the wings, who were relegated from premier this summer, he deserves the accolades as a great player, but the stats are a pretty inflated, good luck to him and osseo the rest of the year, but we will see exactly how good both of them are if they get a chance to play any of the big boys in sections or state because they arent playing them in the regular season
It's been said before that Danny doesn't know offense. It should be pretty obvious now. Rather than build the team to the players stengths he always forces his teams to play his boring non creative easily defended style.Lots of Jag talent being wasted. That's his MO.
Thank you 5/9/08 12:30 There is someone out there that hardly knows the game just like me. Misery loves company.
Osseo's Albert Sims was mentioned in the Strib as player to watch so they have two to watch. Last year Armstrong beat them 4-0.
Osseo Soccer Website
Armstrong Soccer Website
Xman I'm looking to attend that one as well. Do you really see a beating? Have you seen any of these teams play as of yet? Lakeville North has the nucleus of the team back from last year, have speed and are playing well. Apple Valley fairly young from the looks of the roster however a superior coaching staff for these kinds of games. Also playing over on turf. Does that change the prediction a little? Interested in hearing your opinion.
From what I've seen players playing in the summer, those AV boys are good and with better coaching staff they can be better. No I haven't seen these teams played yet. Lakeville North kinda surprised me. It should be a good game to watch.
lakeville north surprised you?
I would say I too am surprised by Lakeville North. They lost their keeper, center back, center mid and top goal scorer from last year. Not to mention other seniors who played big roles. From the looks of their roster, it looks like they have a lot of seniors but only a handful who played last year.
If they continue on this track, Tuesday against AV should be a great game on the turf. Both teams have speed and some skilled players. Coaching will factor into it as will the pride of the players. Right now, these two teams are the top of the Lake (by record at least) and will be fighting for that #1 spot in this game.
Could be a game that fills the stands.
Soccer game that fills the stands? Please.
Coaching will play a factor with AV and LN? Please. Like which team can kick the ball the furthest?
3:32
S - A - D
jose mourinho...maybe you and Diego should go juggle each others raisins.
Challenge Cup boys and girls championship games in Blaine are being broadcast live tomorrow, with play by play commentary, on internet on NSC webcasting service. Games can viewed live for 7 bucks by logging onto www.nscwebcast.tv.
Any surprise in the top scoring (in the trib) for the season?
We have the usual list: Brown, Schlittler, MacArthur, Yonga.
No doubt MacArthur is solid but some of the teams he plays are terrible, Classic 3 level at the High School Varsity.....
what happened in the E.P. Totino game?
Armstrong 2, Osseo 1
Whitney scored.
I watched the Osseo/Armstrong game. 1-0 Osseo at half. Armstrong figured out how to win--they pressured the Osseo D, which is clearly their week-spot. The Osseo Mids were better than Armstrong and were playing with some control. When Osseo built and played into the box to their forwards, the Armstrong players collapsed in and packed the box. Basically looking to counter, they would boot the ball down to pressure the mediocre Osseo D, who then gave up an own goal. 2nd goal was also mis-cue related--no real offense except pressure.
Lots of people playing close on Whitney Brown. He's a marked man.
Went to see it and saw a beautiful game played by Osseo but lacking finishing.
It could be really bad for Armstrong if those easy chances were put away.
All Armstrong could do most of the time were put 9 guys in back-third and played counter-attack which worked.
No need to say if they meet again I think Osseo will win...oh yeah if they can put those easy goals away.
I think Armstrong should be in top 10 now after a hard week.
Whitney is fast with good touch and I can see how he scored those many goals. Osseo dominates the midfield plays and set him up to finish. Not saying he doesn't work hard to ditch defenders and get the shots off. From this game, I think Osseo has the best midfield game in metro area.
MacArthur was on SSM team two years ago I believe. He mostly played right flank and attacking inside. He's good player in very weak conference so he should be able to pile up the goals.
Anonymous said...
No doubt MacArthur is solid but some of the teams he plays are terrible, Classic 3 level at the High School Varsity.....
Yes Osseo defense can learn lessons from Armstrong. There were too many chances that Osseo could have put the game away but shot straight to keeper. I like Armstrong defense and Osseo attacking game.
BTW, Whitney Browne will make All State team.
me xman don't fall in love to quick. Things to ponder. Was Armstrongs missing any players due to red cards issued in the Edina game? From what I've read on the site, it was a middle midfielder they were missing. Also sounds like they were stil able to figured out how to win even with missing players.
IMHO - WB starts reading his press an become less and less effective. Osseo finishes 2nd or 3rd in their conference and loses the first game in sectionals.
EP-Totino was 1-1 with 20 minutes left. EP had more of the run of the game. EP is w/o one of their captains. I assume a minor as the captainship was taken away
Eden Prairie 2, Totino-Grace 1
Top 10 - Saturday 9/6 Result
1. Apple Valley (off)
2. Edina (Edina 2, Heritage Christian 0)
3. Eden Prairie (Eden Prairie 2, Totino-Grace 1)
4. St. Louis Park (11:00 AM home vs Columbia Height)
5. Osseo (Robbinsdale Armstrong 2, Osseo 1)
6. Stillwater (White Bear Lake 2, Stillwater Area 1)
7. Anoka (off)
8. Coon Rapids (Coon Rapids 2, SC Apollo/Sauk Rapids-Rice 0)
9. Lakeville North (Rochester Mayo 3, Lakeville North 1)
10. Champlin Park (off)
10. Wayzata (off)
Anyone got St. Louis Park vs Columbia Height score?
Wasn't Anoka playing Fridley in the Challenge Cup final today after beating Wayzata yesterday?
Where are scores for Challenge Cup?
I think they'll do better without Ralphie Duopu. Yes they did find a way to win but not w/o Osseo's help. There were like 2-3 times I believe Ahmad Bah staring at open net and shot straight to keeper. A few corrections on finishing and they'll be good. Count number of attacks and no doubts Osseo dominated the midfield and attacking plays. Someday you play hard and still lose. But overall I see Osseo better.
BTW, I'm impressed with Ahmad Bah and Lucas Hoang and they could be in All State team along with Whitney Browne. Those two are skillful and got speed and endurance.
Whitney got yellow card with his mouth and yes his mental game has some work to do. From the look at coaching staff I think he'll be corrected.
Anonymous said...
me xman don't fall in love to quick. Things to ponder. Was Armstrongs missing any players due to red cards issued in the Edina game? From what I've read on the site, it was a middle midfielder they were missing. Also sounds like they were stil able to figured out how to win even with missing players.
IMHO - WB starts reading his press an become less and less effective. Osseo finishes 2nd or 3rd in their conference and loses the first game in sectionals.
Fridley over Anoka 2-1 in Challenge Cup final
Found it in Strib.
I would say WTH...Fridley as Champions??? Well at least they can celebrate something...
CHALLENGE CUP
Championship
• Fridley 2, Anoka 1
Third Place
• Wayzata 4, Blake 1
XMan Top 10 - Week of 9/8
1. Apple Valley (7-0-0)
2. Eden Prairie (4-0-2)
3. St. Louis Park (4-0-1)
4. Edina (7-1-1)
5. Armstrong (6-1-2)
6. Osseo (4-1-1)
7. Anoka (3-0-2)
8. Coon Rapids (6-1-1)
9. Lakeville North (7-1)
10. Wayzata (1-1-4)
Why would you put Wayzata in the top ten?
Class 2A Boys Soccer Rankings
September 7 - Star Tribune
RK (last) Team Record
1 (1) Apple Valley (7-0)
2 (3) Eden Prairie (4-0)
3 (2) Edina (7-1)
4 (NR) Armstrong (6-1)
5 (4) St.Louis Park(4-0)
6 (5) Osseo (4-1)
7 (9) Lakeville N (7-1)
8 (8) Coon Rapids (6-1)
9 (7) Anoka (3-0)
10(NR) Woodbury (4-1)
Others Receiving Votes: St. Paul Central, Maple Grove, Stillwater
Can you post the link?
I can't find it on Star Tribune site.
On this blogs home page - Scroll down on the right hand side to Futbol Links - Found it on '08 HS Boys Schedules, Scores and Stats
Top 10 in Action - Monday 9/8
1. Apple Valley (off)
2. Eden Prairie (off)
3. Edina (Away 7:00 PM Wayzata)
4. Armstrong (Away 5:00 PM Minnetonka)
5. St.Louis Park (Home 5:00 PM Hopkins)
6. Osseo (Home 7:00 PM Anoka)
7. Lakeville North (off)
8. Coon Rapids (Away 7:00 PM Champlin Park)
9. Anoka (Away 7:00 PM Osseo)
10. Woodbury (Home 5:00 PM Cretin-Derham Hall)
Games to watch
Anoka vs. Osseo | 7:00 PM at Osseo
Robbinsdale Armstrong vs. Minnetonka | 5:00 PM at Minnetonka
Coon Rapids vs. Champlin Park | 7:00 PM at Champlin Park
Hopkins vs. St. Louis Park | 5:00 PM at St. Louis Park
Cretin-Derham Hall vs. Woodbury | 5:00 PM at Woodbury
Predictions
Edina 2-0 Wayzata
Armstrong 1-1 Minnetonka
Hopkins 2-1 St.Louis Park
Osseo 3-1 Anoka
Champlin Park 1-1 Coon Rapids
Cretin-Derham Hall 3-1 Woodbury
Osseo 2, Anoka 1
Whitney scored one.
Total now 15.
Anoka head coach Pete got thrown out the game for yelling at the ref. Never seen it happened in HS soccer before.
Edina 1- Wayzata 0
Any score for Armstrong game?
Jefferson 4 Lakeville South 1
Armstrong 1 Minnetonka 2
How about Coon Rapids vs Champlin Park game?
im looking forward to watching the LN vs AV game to tonight at LN
Top 10 in Action - Monday 9/8 Results
1. Apple Valley (off)
2. Eden Prairie (off)
3. Edina (Edina 1, Wayzata 0) Won
4. Armstrong (Armstrong 1, Minnetonka 2) Lost
5. St.Louis Park (St.Louis Park 1, Hopkins 2) Lost
6. Osseo (Osseo 2, Anoka 1) Won
7. Lakeville North (off)
8. Coon Rapids (Coon Rapids 1, Champlin Park 0) Won
9. Anoka (Anoka 1, Osseo 2) Lost
10. Woodbury (Woodbury 3, Cretin-Derham Hall 4) Lost
Games to watch - Results
Anoka 1-2 Osseo
Robbinsdale Armstrong 1-2 Minnetonka
Coon Rapids vs. Champlin Park | 7:00 PM at Champlin Park
Hopkins 2-1 St. Louis Park
Cretin-Derham Hall 4-3 Woodbury
Predictions - Results
Edina 2-0 Wayzata (Final: Edina 1-0 Wayzata) Yes
Armstrong 1-1 Minnetonka (Final: Armstrong 1-2 Minnetonka) No
Hopkins 2-1 St.Louis Park (Final: Hopkins 2-1 St.Louis Park) YES!
Osseo 3-1 Anoka (Final: Osseo 2-1 Anoka) Yes
Champlin Park 1-1 Coon Rapids (Final: Champlin Park 0-1 Coon Rapids ) No
Cretin-Derham Hall 3-1 Woodbury (Final: Cretin-Derham Hall 4-3 Woodbury) YES!
4 winners out of 6 ain't bad...
Predicted two upsets with Hopkins over St.Louis Park and Cretin-Derham Hall over Woodbury and right on with those two.
Armstrong ran out of luck with their boot-n-go game against Minnetonka I see. Any game summary here will be great.
Like I said before about Anoka Head Coach, he should leave the program. He's making a farce of himself. Plenty of PO'ed parents I hear.
St.Louis Park finally playing a real team and result showed. Hopkins is a decent team.
Osseo midfield and attacking game is by far one of the best in state. Defense needs some work. Anoka should be off top 10 now.
Cretin-Derham Hall is a darkhorse and coming on strong? Five victories streak so far. They should be above Coon Rapids in top 10.
Coon Rapids haven't faced real tough metro teams yet.
Top 10 in Action - Tuesday 9/9
1. Apple Valley (Away 7:00 PM at Lakeville North)
2. Eden Prairie (Home 7:00 PM vs Eagan)
3. Edina (off)
4. Armstrong (off)
5. St.Louis Park (off)
6. Osseo (off)
7. Lakeville North (Home 7:00 PM vs Apple Valley)
8. Coon Rapids (off)
9. Anoka (off)
10. Woodbury (off)
Games to watch
Apple Valley vs. Lakeville North | 7:00 PM at Lakeville North
Eagan vs. Eden Prairie | 7:00 PM at Eden Prairie
Bloomington Jefferson vs. Lakeville South | 7:00 PM at Lakeville South
I'm running out of ideas...
Predictions
Apple Valley 1-0 Lakeville North
Eden Prairie 3-0 Eagan
Bloomington Jefferson 3-1 Lakeville South
Didn't Eastview pound Cretin?
Looks like the Classic Lake and Lake are dominating once again.
Change in Schedule to to primary elections - EDEN PRAIRIE GAME at 8:00, not 7:00.
EDEN PRAIRIE IS GOING TO WIN BY A LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is Edina rated so high in the state? Would someone with a little insight share what they know. THANKS
I looked at Cretin's record. It's interesting to see them get pounded the first couple of games, and then start getting good wins against decent teams like Coon Rapids and Woodbury.
Edina has many kids playing on MYSA Premier teams. They're good players.
SCHEDULE CHANGE FOR APPLE VALLEY AT LAKEVILLE NORTH. Due to primaries game time is at 8pm... NOT 7pm
Coon Rapids is not a decent team. They're bad. We previously determined that above. Cretin is not close to a top 10 team. Edina is a top 10 team.
When it's all said and done Jefferson wins it all.
Edina is a fantastic team. Very strong. I was surprised by the loss to Armstrong. I would not expect that many more losses. After watching them play earlier this season, I would have thought them to be top 3. Maybe now top 5.
Edina played the best game I've seen and I've seen most of the top 10 including AV and EP. I saw them at Braemar. It might be different for them on their turf. More impressive than EP, far more impressive than AV.
Apple Valley goes down tonight. Jefferson get's upset by Lakeville South.
I want to see Osseo vs Edina.
Who won the Apple Valley lakeville north game?
4:49- Jefferson has already played Lakeville South beating them 4-1 last night.
8PM Apple Valley vs Lakeville North.
I can't make to this game at last minute. Any thoughts on this game would be much appreciated.
Hill-Murray has to be thrown into the mix along with Edina, AV, and EP. They are 4-2-1 coming off a tough battle with Tartan and are tied for 1st in the Classic Suburban.
After losing 10 starters, this team shows that it is not rebuilding - it's reloading. I see them defeating Edina in the ship and Jeff Peick winning Mr. Soccer with Jefferson HS nowhere to be seen.
the problem is that no one can be in the same conversation as AV right now they are ranked 23rd in the country and still the only perfect team in the state after beating LN 3-1 tonight behind goals from Winkler, Johnson, and Obarski, until someone dethrones them they are the head of the class
Our team has played Apple Valley and Eden Prairie, and there is no question about it, Eden Prairie is a much stronger team.
It will be a good game to watch as they go head to head on Saturday.
Osseo will beat them all.
Osseo? I don't think so Joe Parent.
Why do you feel E.P. is a stronger team than A.V.?
Eden Prairie will dethrone A.V. as they are much more creative and have several more offensive weapons. They will also have a distinct advantage on the turf for this matchup. Summer success has spilled into the High School season as many have played together and have very good chemistry.
Does anybody know if EP will have Shane Thuleen back for Saturday? He was a captain at the beginning of the season.
It's funny that a previous blogger said EP is good, but has problems scoring goals. Yet the above blogger praises EP for their creativity and numerous offensive weapons.
It is so confusing here in MN.
How does a Minnesotan gauge creativity and offensive ability?
Shane is still out with an injury, I believe it is day to day. My guess he'll give it a go for the "Big Game" on Saturday. Maradona, how do you gauge creativity and offensive ability?
The praise probably coming from someone who has actually seen them play a few different times. Unlike many opinions on this log, most are formed from very little exposure to games other than what team there son is playing on.
Maradona you seem to be confused a lot about the game. Your opinions generate very little feedback. Credibility issue in many cases.
The funny thing is that everything that 10:56 said is jut as true about AV as EP, AV is the more creative ones and have more than doubled EP in goals in the same amount of games, I don't think that the turf has one bit of advantage either way and 9 of the AV boys all played summer premier soccer together since they were 9 years old, I would say that is some chemistry
AV-3 EP-2. EP goalie not been tested yet.
For minnesota teams creativity is to boot balls out of backfield and run like hell and score. Why bother with any other plays.
It's really a joke. Minnesota doesn't develop PLAYERS at any level.
Top 10 in Action - Tuesday 9/9 Results
1. Apple Valley (Apple Valley 3, Lakeville North 1)
2. Eden Prairie (Eden Prairie 3, Eagan 0)
3. Edina (off)
4. Armstrong (off)
5. St.Louis Park (off)
6. Osseo (off)
7. Lakeville North (Apple Valley 3, Lakeville North 1)
8. Coon Rapids (off)
9. Anoka (off)
10. Woodbury (off)
Games to watch
Apple Valley 3-1 Lakeville North
Eagan 0-3 Eden Prairie
Predictions
Apple Valley 1-0 Lakeville North (Final: Apple Valley 3-1 Lakeville North) Yes
Eden Prairie 3-0 Eagan (Final: Eden Prairie 3-0 Eagan) YES!
What I don't understand is why it is such a crime to play a direct style of soccer, why does everything have to be all this possession, how do you win soccer games? you score more goals than the other team, playing with a direct purpose is not a "bad" way to play soccer, if anything playing with 70-80% of the possession and never scoring any goal to me is a "bad" way to play soccer because you arent going to win very many games that way, counter attacking, free kicks, and playing direct is how you win games at any level, not possession
watch an EPL game sometime and look at how they score goals its not some great buildup, its on one of those three ways, the reason more players from the US dont play in the EPL or why our national team struggles at times is because we look at possession being the way to play the "beautiful" game, from top to bottom in the US that is the way it is looked at
1:06pm Didn't realize A.V. has been together for so long...stand corrected. Obviously explains why they too are having so much succes. I do disagree however about the turf not being an advantage. Most coaches are voting to play on turf at nuetral sites and giving up hosting in the section tournament. That tells you something. A.V. is very good but I don't think you can use the goals for, as a barometer. E.P. beat an eagan 3-0 which isn't all that strong, yet A.V. barely beat them at there house by a score of 1 -0.
Either way, I can't wait for the game on saturday.
me xman...way to go out on a limb with your predications. Your like the gambler in vegas, only hearing about the winnings, never the loses. I will admit though you nailed the scores. Can you tell us who will the election?
I agree with 1:56 that win is more important than anything else. Kick as far as you can and chase it down and kick it into the goal.
I rather like to live peacefully than to ruin a good thing going here. Let's not discuss politics here.
Anonymous said...
me xman...way to go out on a limb with your predications. Your like the gambler in vegas, only hearing about the winnings, never the loses. I will admit though you nailed the scores. Can you tell us who will the election?
10/9/08 2:04 PM
1:56pm Don't worry, Marodona is the same guy who complains about development, yet sits on the sidelines and does nothing. Put up or shut-up.
You're confused. Find a post from Maradona where he complained about development. Maradona complains about the people who complain about development. Maradona complains about people who complain about coaches and clubs. Put up or shut up is exactly right.
Also, Maradona isn't just sitting on the sidelines.
I'm led to believe the "direct" play is more a result of a lack of ability rather than an intentional tactic. The good players try to possess, the bad players are kicking it down field.
EP 3 AV 1
WHAT???? Maradona saying EP beating Apple Valley. He sure has balls of brass. Way to go man.
We really need to change our development system here in Minnesota.
Maradona do something then. Bravo 5:47pm I think Maradona and the ax man are in the wrong business. One reads the paper to us, the other wants change but doesn't want to get involved.
Phony Maradona at 7:19. There can only be one Marodona!
#10
You're a short-sighted person. Read my comments and predictions. See it for yourself. Of course you know more than I do...pfleese...
Anonymous said...
Maradona do something then. Bravo 5:47pm I think Maradona and the ax man are in the wrong business. One reads the paper to us, the other wants change but doesn't want to get involved.
10/9/08 8:27 PM
It's not the development needs to be changed. It's the culture and mindset need to be changed. Why change when you have success at boot-n-chase game. The grassroot coaches are the ones that can change the development. If these coaches know more about football, basketball, and hockey than soccer and want quick goals then forget about development for the kids in how to handle the ball. Boot-n-chase is the game in town. But it's changing gradually for the better in last 10 years. The change is not fast but it's getting better. MYSA is doing what it can to help the grassroot coaches to be better.
I agree with both xman and maradonna here regarding the direct style of play. This high school season I am seeing several players who during the summer have had very little sucess because they don't know how to turn with the ball. But in H.S. when the ball is launched out in front of them they can now score tons of goals. WB is a good example of this. On the same hand I've also seen many a very skilled midfielder get absolutely frustrated because their H.S. forwards are not checking to the ball and are left dribbling around looking for options other than the launch.
assman - Tell us what MYSA has done to help the grassroot coaches be better now, that hadn't been taking place years ago. What has changed. I agree soccer continues to evolve, why. Your not saying MYSA is the reason are you? The main reason the game is changing, is you are now getting coaches who have actually played the game. Eventually, the same for officiating will hold true.
Interesting to see these Wednesday scores:
Cretin-Derham Hall 2, Mounds View 1, OT
CDH is on the roll with 6 wins now.
Mahtomedi 1, St. Paul Central 0
SPC supposed to be good but got beat.
Mahtomedi broke 4 games losing streak.
MYSA has done a good job at grassroot level. The top level is another story but in general I like what MYSA has done for MN kids and coaches. Like the saying "You can lead horses to water but you can't make them drink". MYSA presents plenty opportunities for all coaches to learn coaching techniques and strategy. It's up to the coaches to get off their butts and take advantage of it. Ian barker and John Curtis have done a good job (Ian has left MYSA). Sure you have coaches who have played the game and now coaching which is very good but in general they're at top levels and not at grassroot level.
I completely agree with MeXman above. Football is improving. Football has been improving. It's a cultural issue more than a coaching/club/organization issue. Coaches/clubs/MYSA are doing their best. Players and parents are not. Players don't play enough. Parents don't educate themselves. Neither watch enough games on TV or at NSC.
Parents shouldn't complain about coaches/clubs/MYSA. It will be a slow process in the States.
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Cretin-Derham Hall Raiders will be in Top 10 next week? Six games winning streak.
Me xman, you continue to regurgitate your posts with no examples. I do agree with Maradona on his observations on players and parents. We still have a few years before the education thing takes care of itself as former players become parents and their children are playing the game. The process is slow no doubt. Well said Maradona...there is only one Maradona.
Top 10 in Action - Thursday 9/11
1. Apple Valley (Home 5pm vs Bloomington Kennedy)
2. Eden Prairie (Away 5pm at Rosemount)
3. Edina (Home 7pm vs Minnetonka)
4. Armstrong (off)
5. St.Louis Park (Away 5pm at Spring Lake Park)
6. Osseo (Away 5pm at Centennial)
7. Lakeville North (Away 5pm at Chaska)
8. Coon Rapids (Home 5pm vs Elk River)
9. Anoka (Home 5pm vs Park Center)
10. Woodbury (off)
Games to watch
Minnetonka vs. Edina | 7:00 PM at Edina
Park Center vs. Anoka | 5:00 PM at Anoka
Elk River vs. Coon Rapids | 5:00 PM at Coon Rapids
Wayzata vs. Hopkins | 5:00 PM at Hopkins
St. Louis Park vs. Spring Lake Park | 5:00 PM at Spring Lake Park
Predictions
Minnetonka 1-3 Edina
Park Center 2-1 Anoka
Elk River 1-1 Coon Rapids
Wayzata 2-1 Hopkins
St. Louis Park 2-1 Spring Lake Park
Whitney is bad example for boot-n-chase game. From what I've observed, WB has good techniques and fast and do play with midfielders and can dribble around defenders.
The good example is Armstrong's game and Ryan Erhardt. Boot from the backfield to Ryan to chase and score. I wouldn't say he dribbled around the defenders to score.
Anonymous said...
I agree with both xman and maradonna here regarding the direct style of play. This high school season I am seeing several players who during the summer have had very little sucess because they don't know how to turn with the ball. But in H.S. when the ball is launched out in front of them they can now score tons of goals. WB is a good example of this. On the same hand I've also seen many a very skilled midfielder get absolutely frustrated because their H.S. forwards are not checking to the ball and are left dribbling around looking for options other than the launch. 10/9/08 11:28 PM
Any good Class A games coming up? Any teams starting the season well?
Maybe the Wings u-16 team this summer should have played more direct instead of just passing the ball around and they would have won some games this summer, obviously they had some goal scorers, both WB and RE, but were unable to score goals all summer, weird how direct play can lead to more goals and thus more wins
Direct play isn't beautiful enough for some on this blog. Losing is more important. Cut off the nose to spite the face or something like that.
Got any thoughts on Edina vs Minnetonka game?
Edina...easily. me xman what do you think. You were impressive with you last couple of predictions or is this simply to easy for the "Greek"
Compared to Ill ,OH etc MN coaches at all inferior. To coach in those states you have to have 3-5 years training on how to develop players.
Our local band of good ol boy coaches circle the wagons and disagree. They blame everybody but themselves. MN coaches would never get hired in Ill etc...
If you have a kid with ON THE BALL SKILLS he'll be bored stiff here in MN.
Is Dave Marshak, who won State Championships while coaching in Ohio, inferior now because these days he coaches here in Minnesota? Or is he the only decent coach in the state?
Did Jurgen Klinsmann need 3-5 years training to coach the German National Team?
3-5 years training is no substitute for 20-30 years playing. I'll take my 20-30 years over anything Bruce Arena or Bob Bradley tells me.
As though IL and OH are the gold standard for coaching...
- a coach with more wins than you
Here's profile of Dave Marshak.
http://ahagirls-soccer.com/id5.html
Give him time and he'll produce State Champions for AHA.
Overall yes there are many HS coaches that shouldn't be there like Anoka's. Each school has different goals and most of them putting education first and need a warm body for soccer EXCEPT for sports like FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL, HOCKEY. They really care about these three because of gate receipts. Don't shoot down those golden geese.
Minnetonka has similar game like Armstrong IMO. I think Edina will dominate the game and put in more goals this time.
me xman, do you think E.P. is doing well because of the coach or because of a good summer program. High School coaches are playing the hand that they've been dealt.
me xman...yet Anoka wins a championship. You continue to contradict your own blogs.
1:29pm 3-5 years of training...rubbish. Show us a resource supporting this. Other than a personal experience of a washed out coach or a (your) kid get that got whacked from a squad.
Edina should beat Minnetonka but who knows edina will probably blow it
Have faith in Edina...your a nervous parent aren't you?
PFLEESE!! Don't forget it was last year and that Premier team was handed to Pete and he just let them do whatever they wanted. They won it themselves and not the head coach...pfleese...have you talked to Anoka parents lately?
Anonymous said...
me xman...yet Anoka wins a championship. You continue to contradict your own blogs.
11/9/08 2:50 PM
Yes the summer Premier team and especially Wayne and EPSC have had helped that team a great deal.
Anonymous said...
me xman, do you think E.P. is doing well because of the coach or because of a good summer program. High School coaches are playing the hand that they've been dealt.
11/9/08 2:47 PM
Osseo 2, Anoka 1
Whitney scored 0
Any other scores?
I didn't get my butt out tonight to see any games.
Huh? Osseo vs Anoka game was last Monday. You meant Centennial game tonight.
Any scores on these games? I want to see how I do on my predictions.
Minnetonka vs. Edina | 7:00 PM at Edina
Park Center vs. Anoka | 5:00 PM at Anoka
Elk River vs. Coon Rapids | 5:00 PM at Coon Rapids
Wayzata vs. Hopkins | 5:00 PM at Hopkins
St. Louis Park vs. Spring Lake Park | 5:00 PM at Spring Lake Park
Osseo 2, Centennial 1
WB scored 0
Centennial is supposed to be one of the tough games in that Conference. MG and CP tied--two penalty kicks. I remember when CP was a "dark horse." They are not good. A few really good players but not even a real starting 11.
Anoka 2, Park Center 1 OT
PC couldn't score on four breakaways.
Coon Rapids 2, Elk River 0
Coon Rapids - 2
Elk River - 0
Anoka #19 scored on throw-in directly. From sideline straight to goal. Is this legal?
no. #19 also scored on monday against osseo when he threw the ball off of Whitney Brown's face and into the goal....that one did count.
It was off Albert Sims instead WB.
8:50 - It's only legal when the referee doesn't know the difference...
Anoka scored directly from a throw in to win the game. Park Center players surrounded the referee complaining, but it was counted as a goal.
Wow! How could the Ref (not center but two assistants as well) counted that? All throw-ins must touched another player before it's counted as goal. It's like indirect kick. I think Park Center Head Coach should protest to the league.
Blaine - Andover anyone know the score?
Andover 1, Blaine 0
9:20 ha, ha, ha, ha...
The hs league is a joke - nobody over there knows anything or cares about throw ins...
Good one!
AV 3 Kennedy 1
Lakeville North drops third in a row, this time to Chaska 3-1... think they have shown their best stuff and are now crashing back to Earth.
Diego M never passed the ball unless he absolutely had to. He dribbled the field and SCORED. People like to see goals scored. Makes the game exciting. And if you can exploit a defenses lack of speed, do it! If you have a player who can pinpoint a ball to another in the box, do it! If you can possess and pick and choose the attack, do it! Score goals and crush the other team. You only live once.
Edina 4 Minnetonka 0. Edina used lots of subs in 2nd half.
Anyone got Wayzata vs Hopkins score?
I thought Minnetonka looked pretty good beating Hopkins and Armstrong. Edina beat Minnetonka handily, they move the ball better than any team I have seen this year including EP. Have not seen AV. Edina is strong in the middle many kids with great ball skills. Edina should do well. How did they lose to Armstong 4-2?
It seems the best way for Anoka to find the back of the net is off of those long throw ins. Either by smashing the ball off of the oppositions face or throwing it straight into the goal. They have great centerbacks, goalkeeping, and a few other solid kids. If only they had somebody who could score a goal the conventional way they would be doing well again this year. That or if they fired their coach...either one. Right xman? pflease...
oh yeah, what is with the pflease thing? Am I missing something?
"Edina played the best game I've seen and I've seen most of the top 10 including AV and EP. I saw them at Braemar. It might be different for them on their turf. More impressive than EP, far more impressive than AV.
9/9/08 2:18 PM"
It was said that Armstrong bullied them. Perhaps Edina isn't able to possess the ball as well on turf. It's a shame if that's the case because all these schools are getting turf and Edina played a very nice brand of soccer at Braemar.
Burnsville 3 Lakeville South 2
Burnsville came back from a 2-0 deficit by scoring on 3 set plays, all headers. Burnsville was badly outplayed but managed to pull it out.
jefferson 3 lakeville south 1
Top 10 in Action - Thursday 9/11 Results
1. Apple Valley (Apple Valley 3-1 Bloomington Kennedy) Won
2. Eden Prairie (Eden Prairie 4, Rosemount 0) Won
3. Edina (Edina 4-0 Minnetonka) Won
4. Armstrong (off)
5. St.Louis Park (St.Louis Park 3, Spring Lake Park 0) Won
6. Osseo (Osseo 2, Centennial 1) Won
7. Lakeville North (Lakeville North 1, Chaska 3) Lost
8. Coon Rapids (Coon Rapids 2, Elk River 0) Won
9. Anoka (Anoka 2, Park Center 1 OT) Won
10. Woodbury (off)
Games to watch - Results
Minnetonka 0-4 Edina
Park Center 1-2 Anoka (OT)
Elk River 0-2 Coon Rapids
Wayzata vs. Hopkins
St.Louis Park 3-0 Spring Lake Park
Predictions - Results
Minnetonka 1-3 Edina (Final: Minnetonka 0-4 Edina) Yes
Park Center 2-1 Anoka (Final: Park Center 1-2 Anoka) No
Elk River 1-1 Coon Rapids (Final: Elk River 0-2 Coon Rapids) No
Wayzata 2-1 Hopkins (Final: Wayzata 2-1 Hopkins) YES!
St.Louis Park 2-1 Spring Lake Park (Final: St.Louis Park 3-0 Spring Lake Park) Yes
3 out of 5 right. Not doing so well this time. I counted on upset with Park Center and Elk River will put up a good game but guess not.
Some big Hill Murray talk recently. How did they do last night?
Hill Murray got smoked 4 - 1 by a very average Eagan team. The score should of been 7/8 to 1.
Yes the summer Premier team and especially Wayne and EPSC have had helped that team a great deal...me axman, you are in the know.
Throw ins going straight into the goal result in goal kicks, not goals. Throw ins are indirect.
lakeville north is breaking down. that means there just going to break down even more.
8:38 - You should have been the referee in that game. Obviosly the referee didn't know that.
Saturday must watch game is:
Apple Valley vs Eden Prairie
Not Mpls Southwest vs Mpls South like Strib talking.
Break down even more??? Yes Lakeville North is out of the running for the conference title. Getting back on track is the focus right now. The next couple of games should get them thinking about winning again with a couple of easier games coming up. All the pressure is off with the lofty expectations that were on this team in defense of the conference title. 8:39am you must me an ex lakeville players parent.
me xman on the game to watch...I want a full post game re-cap. As I know you will be there for this game. Almost has a championship feel to it. Early prediction?
7:12,
B-ville scored two goals off of corners and one off of a cross. Play was not lopsided, either, as each team had many good chances, and neither team had much possession. The reality is that neither of these teams is a threat to beat any of the top teams right now.
prediction Ep 3- AV 1
You're right it could be the State Championship game between EP and AV. I've got a wedding to go tomorrow and I'm kicking myself right now. ARGH!!!
BTW, I have a tight game and EP is the winner. EP 4-3 AV.
Anonymous said...
me xman on the game to watch...I want a full post game re-cap. As I know you will be there for this game. Almost has a championship feel to it. Early prediction?
12/9/08 9:20 AM
Me xman, that's a shame. I too have it being a close one. Scanlon always seems to have a horse shoe with him at these big games. However I have E.P. in this one as well. This game fairly meaningless (bragging rights only) as I see them meeting again it the big dance. Then an opposite result of this outcome.
In response to the CP dark horse comment from above. Talked to one of their parents the other night, they have a multitude of injuries. So, saying they do not have 11 players is correct. It sounded like some of their players are out for the season. The injury factor is a big part of high school soccer, as most teams do not have much depth. I think that maybe the one big advantage EP has on all the other teams.
In response to the CP dark horse comment from above. Talked to one of their parents the other night, they have a multitude of injuries. So, saying they do not have 11 players is correct. It sounded like some of their players are out for the season. The injury factor is a big part of high school soccer, as most teams do not have much depth. I think that maybe the one big advantage EP has on all the other teams.
I wonder how much the Champlin Park booster club is paying for that expensive coach in addition to school district is paying him. The required booster fee is expensive one.
The coach is strickly getting paid by the school district. The expensive booster fee is because the past coach did not collect uniforms. Complain all you want about PH in Anoka, last years CP coach makes him look like Buzz Lago's. No disrespect intended toward Buzz :)
So last year CP coach left or got booted out? Who's PH in Anoka?
The way I heard it was a leave or get booted.
PH was trashed eariler on the blog and is the coach from Anoka. I think by me xman? Don't know him, nor his teams.
Most HS coaches are good guys who put in tons of hours and time for peanuts. I don't know of any Booster Club that is supplementing the coaches salary paid by the high school. Most do clinic and camps if they are looking to supplement their incomes. In otherwords providing a service.
Lets here some predictions about ep v. Valley and Lakeville North against Jefferson on Saturday?
EP over Valley 1-0. EP speed up top is too much for Valley to handle.
Lakeville North over Bloomington Jefferson 2-0. First goal legit, second goal Bloomington Jefferson is caught pushing to far forward.
Legit... haha. Those should be two good games to see who are the top teams in that section
PH will get sanctioned by MSHSL for gotten booted out at Osseo game. How many State Champ Coach do that?
Bloomington Jefferson all over Lakeville North. They win easily by two goals. Lakeville N will be out coached in this one.
If you've been around, you know that PH is a competitor. I've coached against him--and won. He is a nut. But he likes his guys and sticks up for them. Does he know a lick about soccer? Probably not.
7 goals in EP AV game? No way. I'm thinking two quality teams will have 3-2 tops, more likely 2 goals wins it.
just wondering, what do u guys think of wayzata's team this year?
Wayzata is not very good and their is not enough talent
Top 10 in Action - Saturday 9/13
1. Apple Valley (Away 1PM at Eden Prairie)
2. Eden Prairie (Home 1PM vs Apple Valley)
3. Edina (off)
4. Armstrong (Home 1PM vs Totino-Grace)
5. St.Louis Park (off)
6. Osseo (Home 1PM vs Irondale)
7. Lakeville North (Home 1PM vs Bloomington Jefferson)
8. Coon Rapids (off)
9. Anoka (Home 1PM vs Rochester John Marshall)
10. Woodbury (Home 7PM vs Park of Cottage Grove)
Games to watch
Apple Valley vs. Eden Prairie | 1:00 PM at Eden Prairie
Totino-Grace vs. Robbinsdale Armstrong | 1:00 PM at Robbinsdale Armstrong
Prior Lake vs. Shakopee | 11:00 AM at Shakopee
Predictions
Apple Valley 3-4 Eden Prairie
Totino-Grace 2-1 Robbinsdale Armstrong
Prior Lake 2-1 Shakopee
The AV-EP game is actually a 2 pm kickoff
Osseo 3, Irondale 1
Whitney Browne scored 2.
Dude--relax on the Whitney Browne-nosing. Or start a blog for him, etc. He's a great player. Enuf said.
EP - 1, AV - 1 at half time. AV scored on a 35 yard free kick. Pretty even. Raining whole game.
EP/AV final now.
EP- 5
AV- 1
This was not a 5-1 game however Valley should have has 2 easily if not a third. Valley's starting goalie gave up two terrible goals one from 30-35 yards out from the sideline that just kinda rolled to the side net he dove came up short all he had to do was shuffle his feet over he had the time. He is not a solid goalie in his first game being tested. Valley's outside Defenders struggled as well but had good sweeper play. EP scored a header from 18 yards out good placement but again not enough pace on it and the goalie should have gotten over to it. I have seen both AV goalies play now after seeing the senior today finally, the Sophomore was during summer ball watching the premier league U16 Valley now U17 and he is the better goalie he should come off the bench. The second half was better play from EP than AV but Valey still had chances including one that the EP defenders really saved the goalie by clearing the ball off the line a couple 3-4 times when it was 3-1. I would say both teams could easily see eachother again in state. Ep's first half goal was a terrible clearance by an AV outside defender right at an EP's forward foot he beat the goalie then near post. AV is a good team with talent but needs the defense to stay back and mark and also avoiding giving up bad goals. The game would have had a very strong finish if that where to happen, but it didn't and ep took it. See them both at state I dont see anyone beating either when you look at their sections.
EP scored 5 goals on AV...wow.
Ayyone got score for Anoka - Rochester John Marshall game?
That Valley Parent post is hilarious,god sweeper play but conceded 5 goals,could of been a good finish etc.
Get over it,1 5 is not a close game,goalies dont score goals
Osseo should have played EP AV Edina.
Not a Valley parent actually and if you were at the game you would understand he was in no way to blame like I said the outside D is where they were beat. I think EP parents need to relax from watching the game from the stands I was irritated and moved away from everyone but thats besides the point. I see no insight on the game from your post.
Whats going on with Champlin Park? They have some good club players and a very good Coach. They just lost to Rogers..... Rogers is a very young determined squad but.....wow
Top 10 in Action - Saturday 9/13 Results
1. Apple Valley (Apple Valley 1-5 Eden Prairie) Lost
2. Eden Prairie (Eden Prairie 5-1 Apple Valley) Won
3. Edina (off)
4. Armstrong (Armstrong 1-2 Totino-Grace) Lost
5. St.Louis Park (off)
6. Osseo (Osseo 2-1 Irondale) Won
7. Lakeville North (Lakville North 0-0 Bloomington Jefferson) Tied
8. Coon Rapids (off)
9. Anoka (Anoka 4-0 Rochester John Marshall) Won
10. Woodbury (off)
Games to watch - Results
Apple Valley 1-5 Eden Prairie
Totino-Grace 2-1 Robbinsdale Armstrong
Prior Lake 1-0 Shakopee
Predictions - Results
Apple Valley 3-4 Eden Prairie (Final: Apple Valley 1-5 Eden Prairie) Yes!
Totino-Grace 2-1 Robbinsdale Armstrong (Final: Totino-Grace 2-1 Robbinsdale Armstrong) YES!
Prior Lake 2-1 Shakopee (Final: Prior Lake 1-0 Shakopee) Yes!
o 3-for-3...not bad at all.
o Armstrong should drop to 9th or 10th place in ranking after 2 losses.
o Cretin-Derham Hall and Totino-Grace should be in Top 10.
o Anoka should be out Top 10
XMan Top 10 - Week 9/15
1. Eden Prairie (7-0-2)
2. Apple Valley (9-1-0)
3. Edina (9-1-1)
4. Osseo (7-1-1)
5. Totino-Grace (7-1-1)
6. St.Louis Park (7-1-1)
7. Cretin-Derham Hall (6-3)
8. Coon Rapids (8-1-1)
9. Armstrong (6-3-2)
10. Prior Lake (5-1-3)
Top 10 in Action - Week 9/8 Results
1. Apple Valley
Tue 9 7:00 PM Lakeville North W 3-1
Thu 11 5:00 PM Bloomington Kennedy W 3-1
Sat 13 1:00 PM Eden Prairie L 5-1
2. Eden Prairie
Tue 9 7:00 PM Eagan W 3-0
Thu 11 5:00 PM Rosemount W 4-0
Sat 13 1:00 PM Apple Valley W 5-1
3. Edina
Mon 8 7:00 PM Wayzata W 1-0
Thu 11 7:00 PM Minnetonka W 4-0
4. Armstrong
Mon 8 5:00 PM Minnetonka L 2-1
Sat 13 1:00 PM Totino-Grace L 2-1
5. St.Louis Park
Mon 8 5:00 PM Hopkins L 2-1
Thu 11 5:00 PM Spring Lake Park W 3-0
6. Osseo
Mon 8 7:00 PM Anoka W 2-1
Thu 11 5:00 PM Centennial W 2-1
Sat 13 1:00 PM Irondale W 3-1
7. Lakeville North
Tue 9 7:00 PM Apple Valley L 3-1
Thu 11 5:00 PM Chaska L 3-1
Sat 13 1:00 PM Bloomington Jefferson T 0-0
8. Coon Rapids
Mon 8 7:00 PM Champlin Park W 1-0
Thu 11 5:00 PM Elk River W 2-0
9. Anoka
Mon 8 7:00 PM Osseo L 2-1
Thu 11 5:00 PM Park Center W 2-1
Sat 13 1:00 PM Rochester John Marshall W 4-0
10. Woodbury
Mon 8 5:00 PM Cretin-Derham Hall L 4-3
Should be off Top 10
Anoka, Woodbury, Lakeville North.
Should be on Top 10
Cretin-Derham Hall, Totino-Grace, Prior Lake.
XMan Top 10 - Week 9/15
1. Eden Prairie (7-0-2)
2. Apple Valley (9-1-0)
3. Edina (9-1-1)
4. Osseo (7-1-1)
5. Totino-Grace (7-1-1)
6. St.Louis Park (7-1-1)
7. Cretin-Derham Hall (6-3)
8. Coon Rapids (8-1-1)
9. Armstrong (6-3-2)
10. Prior Lake (5-1-3)
Totino Grace is Class A
XMan Top 10 - Week 9/15
1. Eden Prairie (7-0-2)
2. Apple Valley (9-1-0)
3. Edina (9-1-1)
4. Osseo (7-1-1)
5. St.Louis Park (7-1-1)
6. Cretin-Derham Hall (6-3)
7. Coon Rapids (8-1-1)
8. Armstrong (6-3-2)
9. Prior Lake (5-1-3)
10. Bloomington Jefferson (5-2-2)
So what if TG is in Class A. I find it very hard to not reconginze them as a top 10 team in the state because of their class. They just beat Armstrong and lost a very tight game to EP. I can't understand how CR or Prior Lake is ranked in top 10 and not TG.
Kudoes to xman for going 3 for 3. You should have bought a lottery ticket - jimmy the greek...
Coaches polls are AA and A. Nobody's trying to exclude your favorite team, just saying that AA and A teams are separate in polls typically. You want a general top 10 poll, put 'em in there
MN Coaches Top 10 - Week 9/15
CLASS 2A BOYS POLL
1. Eden Prairie (7-0)
2. Edina (9-1)
3. Apple Valley (9-1)
4. Osseo (7-1)
5. Coon Rapids (8-1)
6. St. Louis Park (7-1)
7. Anoka (6-2)
8. Maple Grove (5-0)
9. Woodbury (4-2)
10. Robbinsdale Armstrong (6-3)
Others receiving votes: Cretin-Derham Hall, Lakeville North, Minneapolis Southwest
Class 2A Ranking Provided By: Coaches Association
o Anoka and Maple Grove get in Top 10? Pfleese!!!
o Maple Grove couldn't win last two games and beat up on weak teams.
o Both Anoka and Maple Grove will be out of ranking next week.
o Centennial is much better than Maple Grove and Anoka.
o Cretin-Derham Hall and Prior Lake should have been in Top 10 this week.
Coaches like Northwest Suburban Conference teams? Four teams and they're almost half of Top 10. Two from Lake. Two from Classic Lake. One each from North Suburban and Suburban East.
COACHES WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!
Wake up to what...it will be another Lake Champion. A lot of pretenders out there.
I meant to awake on four Northwest Suburban Conference teams. Anoka and Maple Grove shouldn't be in Top 10. CDH and Prior Lake should replace them.
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