With surprise winners at last years Boy's finals, who are some of the favorites coming into this fall season? Who are some of the top players in the metro area?
anon 10:39am : why assume that it was a coach bragging about their team or (son) team? You got to be a parent with no class to make that assumption. You posted anon and expect the world to believe you?
Is Chaska good enough to be mentioned in that category having already beaten Prior Lake Edina and all the other teams and not having any terrible losses
Top 10 in Action - Tuesday 9/23 Results 1. Apple Valley (off) 2. Eden Prairie (Away 7pm at Burnsville) *Rained out* 3. Osseo (Osseo 8, Andover 2) Won 4. Edina (Away 5pm at Robbinsdale Armstrong) *Rained out* 5. Coon Rapids (Coon Rapids 2, Centennial 2) Tied 6. St. Louis Park (St. Louis Park 3, North Branch 0) Won 7. Minneapolis Southwest (Home 4:15pm vs Benilde-St. Margaret's) *Rained out* 8. Bloomington Jefferson (Home 7pm vs Eagan) *Rained out* 9. Cretin-Derham Hall (off) 10. Woodbury (off)
Games to watch - Results Eagan vs. Bloomington Jefferson (*Rained out*) Coon Rapids 2-2 Centennial Minnetonka vs. Hopkins (*Rained out*) Edina vs. Robbinsdale Armstrong (*Rained out*)
The Osseo team is very good in attack, lots of speed and skill on attack joined by the mids makes them very hard to stop. But weakness will be head coach with no experience and defenders central to left backs are poor.
maybe a head coach with no experience who is just letting them play might be their secret weapon against all the "over-coached" team. the funny thing is that Osseo actually plays a more "sophisticated" style of play versus the more common and preferred "boot and scoot" style. so is it the coach who makes the players or is it sometimes the players who make the coach? would WH at EP, DS at BJ, or any of the other more experienced coaches being have the same success or would they have implemented their "style" (whatever it might be). i've seen coaches try to fit round pegs into square holes (i'm not saying any of the better coaches would) but with high school soccer it's more about the players/talent than the style or in many cases the head coaches ability.
Top 10 in Action - Wednesday 9/24 1. Apple Valley (off) 2. Eden Prairie (off) 3. Osseo (off) 4. Edina (off) 5. Coon Rapids (off) 6. St. Louis Park (off) 7. Minneapolis Southwest (Home 5:30pm vs Minneapolis North) 8. Bloomington Jefferson (off) 9. Cretin-Derham Hall (off) 10. Woodbury (off)
At any level, "it's more about the players/talent than the style." Osseo probably plays a "more sophisticated" style because they have some skilled players who can put the ball on the ground a play a little. If the coach had significant impact, the same team would win every year. It always comes down to the players. Players make the coach and players win championships.
Some coaches motivate. Some coaches are smarter and better than others. But at the end of the whole song and dance, in terms of winning, a coach is only as good as his/her players/talent.
If you leave it up to the players then you'll have one heck of a chaos in team organization and strategy. How can any team win?
For good examples in how coaching and organization win at the end, take a look at more Lake and Classic Lake teams. They don't have many Maradonna's but they've been very successful year in and year out. Why?
Well, I'm the second coming, but those other guys...they just have better talent. And they don't even "develop" most of their talent. They only scrape it away from the likes of West Ham, Villa, Lakeville, PSV, Richfield, etc. They aren't coaches. Wenger should coach where he belongs, for Bangu, with all those other "talent thieves."
2:55 - the reason why is that although they do not have many Maradonna's (although 3:05 does pose a solid question) what they do have is greater overall depth and quality than many other conferences. The development these players received in their respective youth programs at the early years and then the soccer clubs (MTA, Wings, BHWKS, etc...) as they get older gives those high schools a decided advantage. I also do not think that 1:24 is suggesting that the coach is reading a newspaper during practice, but rather he's adapted Osseo's style of play to the talent that he has. Although he may not have any experience, that is actually very good coaching.
Osseo's coach, if not a "good" soccer coach, may be a great manager of people. Perhaps he realizes that he has a talented forward who knows more about scoring goals than himself and he allows that talented forward to go out and score many goals against unequal opposition. Sounds to me like he has some skilled players, he puts them in some good positions, and they play a little football rather than kickball.
ep will not "run" down burnsville. EP tied kennedy? and jefferson beat them? burnsville beat kennedy tied jerfferson? so i say it will be a good game. ep may have more possesion and play better but its not going to be a 5-0 or 3-0 win i think 1-0 or 2-1 game.
HS game predictions are so dumb. After spending a day in class and doing who knows what else during the day, coupled with some crazy HS coaching, you never know what kind of team will show up to play.
I think the Burnsville-EP game will be 7-1, or 1-1, or 4-5, but it won't be 3-1.
Mr. Soccer is not the best player in State...pfleese. First, it comes from teams that advance furthest in State tournament. Second, who the coach put up to run for Mr. Soccer. Third, what the coaches think and vote for the player. Better Coaching and better organization are the core of better teams.
Mr. Soccer is not the best player in State...pfleese. First, it comes from teams that advance furthest in State tournament. Second, who the coach put up to run for Mr. Soccer. Third, what the coaches think and vote for the player. Better Coaching and better organization are the core of better teams.
Past years Mr. Soccer: 2007 Class 2A/ Colin Monasterio, Wayzata 2006 Class 2A/ Abe Gibbons, Mpls. South 2005 Class 2A/ Ryan Vint, Wayzata 2004/ Jon Stillwell, Jefferson 2003/ Anthony Keller, Wayzata 2002/ Danny Horst, Stillwater 2001/ Chris Glinski, Roch. Lourdes 2000/ Drew Roddy, Orono 1999/ Bobby Lish, Mounds View 1998/ Chad Morse, Maple Grove 1997/ Dana Kurttila, Stillwater 1996/ Marshall Morehead, Stillwater
For the Mr. Soccer list, while maybe not always the THE BEST player, each of those players was certainly top 5 in their class (except for maybe 1 strange year).
Star individuals and serviceable roll players are the core of better teams. Coaching is secondary. The season is too short for coaching to have a greater impact than the quality of the talent.
Blomington Jefferson is a large and physical team who ave very talented in tight spaces. Some very good ball handlers. Saw the game last night because of the weather reschedule. Eagan played well in the open field and controlled play. Reminded me of Wayzata. Final 2-1 for Eagan.
Wayzata does well because they have great participation in youth soccer, thus exposing all kinds of kids with resources to good soccer stuff. Are you going to tell me that Wager has amazing skills? He may be a nice guy, but has little idea what is actually going on.
They get Mr. Soccer because they have a few very good players with a supporting cast; as stated earlier, your team needs to do well to get Mr. Soccer. They also get foreign students and open-enrollees that can actually play. For example, the two foreigners last year...
7:59pm I'm not sure if anyone knows what the Mr. Soccer formula really is. It all comes down to stats and a lot of lobbying. If a coach is good at that and willing to put fourth the effort, that player will be on the radar.
Eagan controlled play the first half with BJ rarely getting past mid-field. Jefferson marked Schlitter during first half. Jefferson had opportunities in second half and was much more aggressive. Had some opportunities but couldn't finish. Eagan substantially improved since I watched them early in season.
Looking like Eagan will make Top 10 next week... They've got easier schedule than Jefferson. Eagan games: Burnsville and Lakeville South. Jefferson: Rosemount and Apple Valley.
Amazing Eagan hasn't been ranked before. They have won 10 of 12 games with only losses to number 1 and 2 ranked teams. I'm convinced coaches don't even look at schedules when voting. How could Suburban East teams be rated ahead of them when schedules are compared?
Top 10 in Action - Wednesday 9/24 Result 1. Apple Valley (off) 2. Eden Prairie (off) 3. Osseo (off) 4. Edina (off) 5. Coon Rapids (off) 6. St. Louis Park (off) 7. Minneapolis Southwest (Minneapolis Southwest 16, Minneapolis North 0) Won 8. Bloomington Jefferson (off) 9. Cretin-Derham Hall (off) 10. Woodbury (off)
Minneapolis North Record Fri 5 5:30 PM Minneapolis Roosevelt Lost 13-0 Sat 6 11:00 AM Robbinsdale Cooper Lost 9-0 Tue 9 4:30 PM Minneapolis Edison Lost 16-0 Thu 11 5:30 PM Minneapolis Henry Lost 6-0 Sat 13 3:00 PM Columbia Heights Lost 10-0 Mon 15 4:30 PM Minneapolis Southwest Lost 14-0 Tue 16 5:30 PM Minneapolis Washburn Lost 15-0 Wed 17 5:30 PM Minneapolis South Lost 18-0 Fri 19 5:30 PM Minneapolis Edison Lost 11-0 Wed 24 5:30 PM Minneapolis Southwest Lost 16-0
8:40 - You are exactly right! The Minneapolis schools are not competitive with the other metro schools. Yet with some creative marketing sometimes get Mr. Soccer candidates with the goals you can raack up against a 0-17 team. So the top ten list gets to be the best team in each sectional area. This does not represent the ten best in the state.
Those Wayzata players were good, deserving players of the award and they played on very good Wayzata teams. No one was more deserving that CM last year.
It's really too bad that Mpls South and others are putting up 18 goals on North. Can't they get to 5 goals and play keep-away the rest of the game? Why are they padding their stats? Why are they disrespecting their opponent? Why don't they practice good habits and possess the ball with two touches a little bit? If I was to play against Mpls South...
9:26 - whoever is in charge at Osseo they seem to have found something that is currently working. Based on your comment, if the team does not go as far as many think they can, will the head coach get blamed or the assistant who is running the team...?
The Wayzata players were good. But you need the supporting cast to win it. Other players don't win because they don't have the team or their coach is an idiot.
A lot of kids think that the coaches all sit down and pick all-state or something. Nope. It's the section coaches who decide at the section seed meeting. Can be very political. What a joke. I should know.
The winners from '99 & '01 didn't have supporting casts, but they deserved to win. The winner in '00 didn't have a supporting cast.
If the best player wins it this year, RG wins it, easy. And anyone who knows anything knows it. WB will win it because he's the best player on a good team with a lot of goals. Both players are deserving.
A coach didn't find anything that is working at Osseo. It's a good player scoring a lot of goals and some other good players holding down the fort.
I think y'all missing the point about coaching impacting the team. You need to watch the practices rather than games to truly see how coaches and organization impacting the players and games.
It boils down to that you need both sides of work in making a good team. Good players and good coaches. That's about it.
Top 10 in Action - Thursday 9/25 1. Apple Valley (Home 5pm vs Chaska) 2. Eden Prairie (Home 5pm vs Lakeville South) 3. Osseo (Away 5pm at Blaine) 4. Edina (Home 5pm vs Wayzata) 5. Coon Rapids (Home 5pm vs Park Center) 6. St. Louis Park (Away 5pm at Totino-Grace) 7. Minneapolis Southwest (Home 5:30pm vs Minneapolis Washburn) 8. Bloomington Jefferson (Away 5pm at Rosemount) 9. Cretin-Derham Hall (Away 7pm at Stillwater Area) 10. Woodbury (Home 7pm vs White Bear Lake)
Games to watch Park Center vs. Coon Rapids | 5:00 PM at Coon Rapids Cretin-Derham Hall vs. Stillwater Area | 7:00 PM at Stillwater Area St. Louis Park vs. Totino-Grace | 5:00 PM at Totino-Grace
Predictions Park Center 0-3 Coon Rapids Cretin-Derham Hall 2-1 Stillwater Area St. Louis Park 0-3 Totino-Grace
me xman totally agree with the need to watch the practice sessions, and prep for a game. To often an evaluation of the coaching staff is based on the games. Any opinion on Mr. Soccer and your top five front runners?
9;34am...Yeh the assistant get's the credit when their winning... and the head coach gets the credit when losing (hmm). Hidden agenda, it's not often you see their name (assistant) in the paper when there losing. Assistant coach with loyalty issues??? In business I think they call that undermining.
Most coaching takes place in practice sessions, but how often is that training translated into the games by these HS players? If these coaches were running great practice sessions and if the players were implementing that into games, we'd be seeing some really pretty football.
I think there are probably 2 or 3 teams in any given season that play an appealing brand of football. Why did Anoka win it last year? Coaching? Valley, Wayzata, Edina, they've all relied on players. Again, I'll take 11 uncoached All-Metro players over 11 Hiddink-coached scrubs any day of the week.
It's not uncommon to have assistants running the technicals and tacticals. One good exmaple come to mind is Wayzata. Wagner had ODP coaches helping him out.
me xman, respectable list no doubt and obviously have kept up on your homework. Keep an eye on Ryan Schlittler as well. FYI- Scored his 50th high school career goal last night against Jefferson...worth mentioning. You appear to have the pulse a majority of the time. If you haven't had exposure to this kid yet, try to make an effort to check him out, you won't be dissappointed.
It's all about club ball when you break it down. Wayzata has at least 5 good club teams in their area. A Standout in Red Wing will never get noticed because the team will be under the radar.
You need to get out and see more Lake Conference games. The players you mention are all solid, but missing guys like Schlittler, you are falling for the Star Trib/West Suburban Hype.
1:26pm not sure if your completely accurate on me xman. Comes up with a lot of credible stuff. Why so interested in the Lake as Wings parent? Dog in the race???
2:07pm What is their game? They we're miserable last year. New coach, now getting results. Don't know of many teams who had a winning record without a coach. I think you need to get out of the chair and pick up a whistle.
And what would "their game" be? Is it the same game that gave them so much success the previous couple years with a different coach? Or is it the same game that went to the dome 3 out of 5 years?
Don't rip Mpls. players just because they have to play North. South and Southwest have produced some great players. The Gibbons brothers were an awesome force for South. It's too bad those teams don't get to play tougher competition regularly; it can be tough to play Henry or North followed by Apple Valley or Wayzata...
And North doesn't even try. It's pathetic.
And yes, I am a Surburban dude.
I think most important in Mr. Soccer is your stats, wins, previous year publicity, and how well the club scene loves you.
More pathetic than not trying is scoring 18 goals in an 80 minute game. Pass the ball around a bit. Gibbons boys were good.
Maybe if they didn't run up the score so much and if they put quality football on display rather than scoring every 4 minutes, their Mpls opposition would be slightly more encouraged for future years. The ripple effect of bad football goes on, and on, and on...
No homework. Some people just know. Some people don't.
Mr. Soccer probably should come down to stats and wins. That's what good players do. They win and they put up good numbers? For a tie-breaker, previous success and club success seem like good categories.
This is why WB should have it locked up pretty soon.
I don't fault the players in one sided romps. I fault the coaches who keep their star players in the game when it's out of hand. Minneapolis SW has done that for the past few years.
Neither Gibbons or Monasterios teams made it to the state finals the years they won Mr. Soccer. Monasterio did not ever have good stats in HS and he won it. He deserved to win it because he was the best player. Gibbons stats were good and he was also the best player that year. Those who rip his stats should realize that he was a midfielder who racked up assists while playing only 20minutes in those blow out games. He and his brother used to even sit those games out occasionally. Yes, I used to help coach the Gibbons and trained them both in ODP.
For the most part the coaches get it right when they vote for Mr. Soccer. You can certainly argue that other players were also deserving and they probably were. The candidates listed above and are all good players. I think the voting will be close this year.
ryan schlittler scored his 52 goal of his career tonight against burnsville. overall i though burnsville should have won that game because they had better possesion, played better than eagan did and had there chemistry going but eagan came out on top and scored the first goal and kept scoring. this burnsville team is not looking good this year. they have the talent but teamwork needs improvement.
i disagree with the comment that Whitney Brown should be THIS years Mr. Soccer, hes one of the best players in the state hands down, but he is a junior isnt he? I think Mr. Soccer should be awarded to a senior regardless. We all know WB will dominate the high school league next year. I cant wait to see what kind of stats he will put up then.
I always like how people who just don't know things blather away with incorrect information.
WB is a senior and will get my vote for Mr. Soccer.
CM made it to the state final his senior year with Wayzata when he won Mr. Soccer. That was only 11 months ago. That's some good short term memory to have already forgotten that. Statistics don't only refer to goals and assists. We have had keepers and defenders win Mr. Soccer.
For all you RG fans, take a reality break. He has done 0000 this year and has at least one red card for trying to take a player out and when the ref carded him his response was to tell the ref that he could do whatever he wants. I have watched him play numorous times this year he looks disinterested out of shape and lazy. There are a half dozen players that I have seen in his conference alone that are playing much better than the great RG.
WB will have a good chance to win Mr Soccer. To win Mr Soccer you have to be the player of the year from your conf. Then it is discussed at the meeting where all state players are selected by the section reps. If a player does not get the number one player out of their conference they have no chance.
WB is a great player but there is no way the kid just turned 16, i would love to see an original birth certificate for him, especially if he is a senior in high school, so he started school when he was 3 years old, don't believe it
I was able to make it to the Eagan/Burnsville game this evening. First of all, Burnsville clearly outplayed Eagan for the first 30 minutes and had many opportunities to score but just didn't. Eagan scored its first goal with 10 minutes left in the first half. After that, it was all Eagan. Also, Ryan Schlittler was very impressive. He is patient and allows the game to come to him. When he does get an advantage, he quickly executes. He scored 2 goals and had 2 assists while hardly breaking a sweat. I have seen about a dozen different Metro teams this year and he is easily the best player I've seen
Working graveyard shift is the pit. I didn't get to see any games tonight. Surprise to see Edina got beat Wayzata, LS tied EP, Totino Grace got beat by St. Louis Park, Stillwater beat CDH. I see WB scored 2 goals and has good chance taking Mr. Soccer if Osseo can make it to State. I live in Ramsey if you care and I dislike the coach who know who.
WB is smart kid. His family struggles to make it in life and yes most african families do. He knows education is the way out and he's trying his best to get there. Give the kid a break.
Anonymous said... WB is actually 18 and holding back couple years due to slow bone growth LOL! 25/9/08 10:13 PM
BTW, WB's brother Martin is doing well at Western Illinois. They know education is the key to be successful in life. https://admin.xosn.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=12000&ATCLID=631871
Top 10 in Action - Thursday 9/25 Results 1. Apple Valley (Apple Valley 2, Chaska 0) Won 2. Eden Prairie (Eden Prairie 0, Lakeville South 0) Tied 3. Osseo (Osseo 3, Blaine 1) Won 4. Edina (Edina 1, Wayzata 2) Lost 5. Coon Rapids (Coon Rapids 3, Park Center 2) Won 6. St. Louis Park (St. Louis Park 3, Totino-Grace 2) Won 7. Minneapolis Southwest (Southwest 5, Washburn 0) Won 8. Bloomington Jefferson (Bloomington Jefferson 1, Rosemount 0) 9. Cretin-Derham Hall (CDH 0, Stillwater Area 2) Lost 10. Woodbury (Home 7pm vs White Bear Lake)
Games to watch Park Center 2-3 Coon Rapids Cretin-Derham Hall 0-2 Stillwater Area St. Louis Park 3-2 Totino-Grace
Predictions Park Center 0-3 Coon Rapids (Final: Park Center 2-3 Coon Rapids) Yes Cretin-Derham Hall 2-1 Stillwater Area (Final: Cretin-Derham Hall 0-2 Stillwater Area) No St. Louis Park 0-3 Totino-Grace (Final: St. Louis Park 3-2 Totino-Grace) No
A few thoughts o Surprised to see Edina lost again. That's three straight. Spencer Duhaime is one fun kid. o EP tied Lakeville South? How? EP is better than that. Taking a breather? o St.Louis Park is proving their ranking. Paul Yonga you've got to do better. Jerry must be going nuts watching. o CDH is letting me down dropping to Woodbury and Stillwater. Top 10 is too much to handle I guess. o Mpls SW continues to beat on easy teams.
EP has been overrated all year. I have seen these guys play for a couple years and they would get obliterated by the EP team from last year. They have little creativity on top, decent mids and defenders and inexperience in goal. Not the recipe of a state championship.
Ryan MacArthur was the leading goal scorer I believe for the Bangu U17 team last summer that Rodrigo and Dula and Spencer Duhaime plays on. And he normally does not play striker.
Wayzata over Edina shouldn't be a surprise, all the Classic Lake teams are beating up on each other. Although they aren't as good as in previous years, don't be surprised if Wayzata makes it out of their section. They are big, fast and work extremely hard -- the prototypical HS team.
Mpls South and Southwest are in a tough spot having to play city strugglers like North, which probably couldn't compete at the JV level. Refs have even been shortening the games to 60 minutes, so the top players probably only play 30 minutes or so. They would easily be better off practicing than playing in these games, and the conference mandates that they have to play teams like North, Henry and Edison twice each season, which isn't any good for either side.
Because of the soft conference schedule, teams like South load up the non-conference slate -- Osseo, Wayzata, Armstrong, Jefferson and Benilde (No. 5 in Class A) -- and also play Southwest twice. It's tough to stay sharp when you play Edison one day and No. 7 Southwest the next.
As for Mr. Soccer - The short list is usually right on, but the final selection is not always on the mark. IE Last year Montestario was a outstanding choice, the year before, Gibbons was not. Every coach will tell you it's political.
Very tough for coaches to see in person the players they are voting for.
Don't forget Jake Szymanski - St. Thomas for Mr. Soccer in A. He is teams leading goal scorer and a beast in the middle. Unlike other A players, he doesnt get a chance to score 5 or more goals in blowout games. His coach is classy enough to sit him for large stretches after they have comfortable leads. I wonder how may other top players are limited to 2 to 3 goals in blowouts?
For an 18-0 game in 60 minutes, you can blame everyone involved, coaches and players. It's as simple as this: no more scoring, pass the ball around, play one-touch keep-away. Both the coaches and players should know this. 18-0 in soccer is like 51-0 in baseball and 226-0 in football. If I got a chance to play against South...
"Real Coach."...what does that mean? "Sit players to keep the score down."...why not just pass the ball around? Maybe these teams aren't prepared to play in playoffs (as was mentioned) because their top players are sitting on the bench. "Wait for the game to come to him."...should great players at the HS level wait for the game?
If Messi or Cristiano waited for the game to come to them, they'd be called lazy and non-existent, probably by you.
I'm sure Dula's supporting cast has nothing to do with his play. It has everything to do with the coach, as though the coach is on the field.
How many goals is too many in varsity soccer -- 5-0? 8-0? 12-0? Did anyone complain when Apple Valley beat Hastings 7-0? When a JV call-up gets a chance to play and the score is 6-0, does he have to quit and pretend it's a practice? He could get that with the JV team.
Don't blame the players and coaches, fault the AD's and the conference. North should not be playing a varsity schedule. Push them back to JV and let the other city teams get 2 more games against appropriate competition. Maybe then South could schedule a quality St. Paul team (Central?) and Southwest could play a border battle with Edina.
Mpls Guy's idea to have North play JV is a great idea. But it is what it is. South has to play North. No reason to pile on 18 goals. That's the fault of the players and coach.
"Quit and pretend it's practice." What does that mean? Does that mean we don't try during practices? Can't we just possess the ball and not pump the ball down the field and into the net every 3 minutes?
North has lost every game by 8-0 or worse, and they have not scored a single goal. By the reasoning of 10:50, who thinks that 6 goals are too many, then the players and coaches of ALL those teams are at fault. Is that possible?
Sadly, the absurd numbers being posted are what is required to force a change. If teams held it to 4-0 or 5-0, then clueless administrators wouldn't think that anything needed to be done.
Of course players try at practice, but that assumes some reasonable balance of competition. This is truly like passing around cones, which will hold a varsity player's interest for about 1 minute, let alone 60.
Winning 10-0 and clearing your bench early so those team members who rarely get to play is one thing. Winning 9-0 and your stud scores 5 or 6 goals is low class.
North deserves to have a team, they just need to find the right level, which is probably JV. A couple of weeks ago, they played games on 3 consecutive days and lost 47-0, but the players were laughing, joking and hustling the whole way. Their attitude has been unbelievable, truly a credit to the game. The administrators need to wake up and give these guys a fair chance to play the sport they clearly love.
I was wondering about X-Man and the Osseo connection too. Especially when he said Lucas Hoang (his dad is asst.) has a shot at Mr. Soccer. (Good player, but Mr. soccer? You gotta be kidding me.)
Believe me, the North kids are not basketball players. But if they didn't love soccer, why would they keep showing up, only to get trounced?
Every kid should be encouraged to participate in extracurricular activities, even if they're not very good. Kids that stay active and engaged are generally healthier and better students, and they tend to get into trouble less often. With all of the major problems in the world -- war, terrorism, financial crises -- we need a lot more people like that.
I'm trying to figure out why if Hoang is running the Osseo team, why he didn't apply and get the Head Coach job to begin with? Wait a minute....isn't Psyco Mom's kid on that team?
I'm not even sure what's going on here. Are you claiming that Carl Hoang is X-Man? That might help explain his adulation of Osseo and scorn for MG. And the love for WB and Carl jr... I don't think he is, but who really cares. On a separate note, Osseo and CR are the teams to beat in that conference. Osseo #1 seed in section. Who is the #1 seed in Section 5? Edina? Southwest? (!) AV in Theirs? I thought Cretin was having good results too, but now they quit scoring... Is Woodbury back in that mix?
What teams will make it from outstate/near outstate will make it? Eagan I suppose, as they play Rochester... St. Cloud?
You D bags are stupid....Every times theres a good african kid everyone gets suspicious of the birth certificate....Whitney lived in england for a couple years and got ahead on school then came back.....Whitney is a amazing player and nobody can ever give the good kids credit on this blog...Whitney is 16 and his he may be a bit short but he sure can tear it up on the soccer field.
The North coach has no idea what he is doing. He never has. If you are getting beat by these ridiculous scores, focus on defense and trying to keep the ball out of the net. The style they play is as stupid as their coach. If you were to put Danny Storlien at North, they could lower their average loss score down to 5-0...and everyone would be happier. Everyone who know DS knows he would never take on a team like this though...right ;)
Top 10 in Action - Saturday 9/27 1. Apple Valley (Away 3pm at Bloomington Jefferson) 2. Eden Prairie (Away 12pm at Eastview) 3. Osseo (Home 1pm vs South St.Paul) 4. Edina (off) 5. Coon Rapids (Home 5pm vs Zimmerman) 6. St. Louis Park (Home 1pm vs Chisago Lakes Area) 7. Minneapolis Southwest (Away 2pm at Minneapolis South) 8. Bloomington Jefferson (Home 3pm vs Apple Valley) 9. Cretin-Derham Hall (Home 1pm vs Mounds View) 10. Woodbury (Away 11am at Roseville)
Games to watch Apple Valley vs. Bloomington Jefferson | 3:00 PM at Bloomington Jefferson Minneapolis Southwest vs. Minneapolis South | 2:00 PM at Minneapolis South
Predictions Apple Valley 2-1 Bloomington Jefferson Mpls Southwest 2-1 Mpls South
Section 1 Lakeville North Lakeville South Mayo Marshall Century Winona Farmington Owatana I will take Mayo or Owatana
Section 2 EP Jefferson Edina Prior Lake Kennedy Chaska Mtonka Shakopee
I will take EP or Jefferson
Section 3
Apple Valley Burnsville Eagan Eastview Hastings Sibley Park CG Rosemount
I will take AV or Eagan
Section 4 Cretin Hill North St Paul Roseville Stillwater Tartan WBL Wdby
I will take Wdby or Stillwater
Section 5 Centennial Champlin Irondale Maple Grove Mounds View Osseo Park Center
I will take Osseo
Section 6 Buffalo Hopkins Southwest Armstrong Cooper St Louis Park Wayzata South I think the most competitive section, any team but Cooper or Buffalo could come out. Should be fun to watch.
Section 7 Andover Anoka Blaine Cambridge Coon Rapids Forest Lake St Francis
I will take Coon Rapids
Section 8 Bemidji Elk River Fergus Moorhead St Cloud Tech Alex Brainard St Cloud Apollo
Your guess is as good as mine.
Section 3 winner vs Section 2 winner in the state final. You may see and all Lake Conf final. Eagan or AV vs Jefferson or EP
7:47 the section seedings could mess up your picks. I think it's still early but you have good teams winning there. I would have picked them as well. I'm working my list currently.
HS coaches and fans. Bring your teams out the NSC on Sunday at 5pm to watch the Thunder vs Vancouver. Playoff game and its great for kids to see live soccer at a higher level. No its not the EPL but its pretty good and if you watch the Thunder play last weekend vs Montreal it was very good.
yeah you are not going to go very far letting in that many goals but if whitney keeps scoring its not big deal... but one bad game for him ends their season
Jefferson has plenty of talent but the coach is offensively bankrupt.His teams always have problems scoring.Can't imagine why they got him hangin around the Thunder.They can't score either.
I've seen both AV and Osseo played. Osseo has more flavor of Premier team than boot and scoot AV. Osseo has more speed than any teams I've seen and very skillful midfielders. WB needs to have 2-3 defenders to contain him. Blaine tried to contained him but he scored two goals with 3 defenders on top of him. Osseo will win State.
Don't know the guy and haven't watched the team before but I'm pretty sure nobody else played but the original 11, even after #24 got a yellow. Just seems strange that they don't have anybody else who can play...
Top 10 in Action - Saturday 9/27 Results 1. Apple Valley (Apple Valley 1, Bloomington Jefferson 1) Tied 2. Eden Prairie (Eden Prairie 2, Eastview 0) Won 3. Osseo (Osseo 4, South St.Paul 0) Won 4. Edina (off) 5. Coon Rapids (Home 5pm vs Zimmerman) 6. St. Louis Park (St. Louis Park 3, Chisago Lakes Area 0) Won 7. Minneapolis Southwest (Minneapolis South 2, Minneapolis Southwest 1) Lost 8. Bloomington Jefferson (Apple Valley 1, Bloomington Jefferson 1) Tied 9. Cretin-Derham Hall (Cretin-Derham Hall 2, Mounds View 0) Won 10. Woodbury (Woodbury 1, Roseville 1) Tied
Games to watch - Results Apple Valley 1-1 Bloomington Jefferson Minneapolis Southwest 1-2 Minneapolis South
Predictions - Results Apple Valley 2-1 Bloomington Jefferson (Final: Apple Valley 1-1 Bloomington Jefferson) Mpls Southwest 2-1 Mpls South (Final: Minneapolis Southwest 1-2 Minneapolis South) o 0-for-2...man I'm getting worse...
A few thoughts o Hopkins to make Top 10 and replacing Cretin-Derham Hall. o Eagan to make Top 10 and replacing Minneapolis Southwest.
Top 10 in Action - Week 9/22 Results 1. Apple Valley - WWT Mon 22 7:00 PM Henry Sibley W 5-0 Thu 25 5:00 PM Chaska W 2-0 Sat 27 3:00 PM Bloomington Jefferson T 1-1
2. Eden Prairie - TW Thu 25 5:00 PM Lakeville South T 0-0 Sat 27 12:00 PM Eastview W 2-0
3. Osseo - WWW Tue 23 7:00 PM Andover W 8-2 Thu 25 5:00 PM Blaine W 3-1 Sat 27 1:00 PM South St. Paul W 4-0
4. Edina - L Thu 25 5:00 PM Wayzata L 2-1
5. Coon Rapids - TWW Tue 23 7:00 PM Centennial T 2-2 Thu 25 5:00 PM Park Center W 3-2 Sat 27 5:00 PM Zimmerman W 5-0
6. St. Louis Park - WWW Tue 23 7:00 PM North Branch W 3-0 Thu 25 5:00 PM Totino-Grace W 3-2 Sat 27 1:00 PM Chisago Lakes Area W 3-0
7. Minneapolis Southwest - WWL Wed 24 5:30 PM Minneapolis North W 16-0 Thu 25 5:30 PM Minneapolis Washburn W 5-0 Sat 27 2:00 PM Minneapolis South L 2-1
8. Bloomington Jefferson - LWT Wed 24 7:00 PM Eagan L 2-1 Thu 25 5:00 PM Rosemount W 1-0 Sat 27 3:00 PM Apple Valley T 1-1
9. Cretin-Derham Hall - LLW Mon 22 6:00 PM Woodbury L 2-0 Thu 25 7:00 PM Stillwater Area L 2-0 Sat 27 1:00 PM Mounds View W 2-0
10. Woodbury - WWT Mon 22 6:00 PM Cretin-Derham Hall W 2-0 Thu 25 7:00 PM White Bear Lake W 3-2 Sat 27 11:00 AM Roseville T 1-1
XMan Top 10 - Week 9/29 1. Apple Valley (14-1-1) 2. Osseo (11-1-2) 3. Eden Prairie (10-1-4) 4. St. Louis Park (11-2-2) 5. Coon Rapids (9-2-2) 6. Woodbury (8-2-3) 7. Eagan (14-3) 8. Bloomington Jefferson (9-3-3) 9. Edina (9-4-1) 10. Hopkins (7-4-1)
Dropped from Top 10 Minneapolis Southwest and Cretin-Derham Hall.
Added to Top 10 Hopkins and Eagan.
Hopkins record last 2 weeks Tue 16 5:00 PM Edina W 3-2 Thu 18 5:00 PM Robbinsdale Armstrong W 3-0 Sat 20 11:00 AM Monticello W 4-0 Sat 27 11:00 AM Shakopee W 4-2
Eagan record last 2 weeks Tue 16 7:00 PM Lakeville North W 3-1 Thu 18 5:00 PM Chaska W 1-0 Sat 20 1:00 PM Duluth East W 1-0 Wed 24 7:00 PM Bloomington Jefferson W 2-1 Thu 25 5:00 PM Burnsville W 4-1 Sat 27 3:00 PM Lakeville South W 5-0
Woodbury is not good and only has 14 games on there schedule. Thats 4 less games then everyone else. Even if they win out 14 games is weak scheduleing.
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EP
Edina
Bl. Jefferson
Minnetonka
Prior Lake
That's the only section worth a darn. Probably more competitive than the State Tournament. (I have no connection to that section)
anon 10:39am : why assume that it was a coach bragging about their team or (son) team? You got to be a parent with no class to make that assumption. You posted anon and expect the world to believe you?
Most games rained out tonight... bummer
Not assuming anything.
Osseo 8, Andover 2
Is Chaska good enough to be mentioned in that category having already beaten Prior Lake Edina and all the other teams and not having any terrible losses
Chaska success against non conf teams confirms Lake is best conference this year by far.
Lake Conf is regularly the best conf
Lake Conf is regularly the best conf
Chaska still has Minnetonka, Prior Lake, & Jefferson left on their schedule
Minnetonka is 0-2 against Lake teams and Prior Lake just got shutout by Kennedy.
Top 10 in Action - Tuesday 9/23 Results
1. Apple Valley (off)
2. Eden Prairie (Away 7pm at Burnsville) *Rained out*
3. Osseo (Osseo 8, Andover 2) Won
4. Edina (Away 5pm at Robbinsdale Armstrong) *Rained out*
5. Coon Rapids (Coon Rapids 2, Centennial 2) Tied
6. St. Louis Park (St. Louis Park 3, North Branch 0) Won
7. Minneapolis Southwest (Home 4:15pm vs Benilde-St. Margaret's) *Rained out*
8. Bloomington Jefferson (Home 7pm vs Eagan) *Rained out*
9. Cretin-Derham Hall (off)
10. Woodbury (off)
Games to watch - Results
Eagan vs. Bloomington Jefferson (*Rained out*)
Coon Rapids 2-2 Centennial
Minnetonka vs. Hopkins (*Rained out*)
Edina vs. Robbinsdale Armstrong (*Rained out*)
Predictions - Results
Eagan 1-2 Bloomington Jefferson (*Rained out*)
Coon Rapids 1-2 Centennial (Final: Coon Rapids 2-2 Centennial)
Minnetonka 1-2 Hopkins (*Rained out*)
Edina 2-0 Robbinsdale Armstrong (*Rained out*)
Can someone give a game recap for CDH vs Woodbury?
i believe that burnsville and ep could be a good game. not saying that it's a game to watch but it will be a good game.
I'm afraid that EP will run over Burnsville.
Mpls SW playing crappy teams and beat Anoka 1-0 get ranked. I would vote for Hopkins before Mpls SW.
Why would "a good game" not be "a game to watch?"
I personally prefer watching "good games" rather than a game that is bad.
The Osseo team is very good in attack, lots of speed and skill on attack joined by the mids makes them very hard to stop. But weakness will be head coach with no experience and defenders central to left backs are poor.
Here's Osseo coaching staff
http://osseosoccer.com/mens/staff.php
Head coach has no experience.
maybe a head coach with no experience who is just letting them play might be their secret weapon against all the "over-coached" team. the funny thing is that Osseo actually plays a more "sophisticated" style of play versus the more common and preferred "boot and scoot" style. so is it the coach who makes the players or is it sometimes the players who make the coach? would WH at EP, DS at BJ, or any of the other more experienced coaches being have the same success or would they have implemented their "style" (whatever it might be). i've seen coaches try to fit round pegs into square holes (i'm not saying any of the better coaches would) but with high school soccer it's more about the players/talent than the style or in many cases the head coaches ability.
well put 1:24
Top 10 in Action - Wednesday 9/24
1. Apple Valley (off)
2. Eden Prairie (off)
3. Osseo (off)
4. Edina (off)
5. Coon Rapids (off)
6. St. Louis Park (off)
7. Minneapolis Southwest (Home 5:30pm vs Minneapolis North)
8. Bloomington Jefferson (off)
9. Cretin-Derham Hall (off)
10. Woodbury (off)
At any level, "it's more about the players/talent than the style." Osseo probably plays a "more sophisticated" style because they have some skilled players who can put the ball on the ground a play a little. If the coach had significant impact, the same team would win every year. It always comes down to the players. Players make the coach and players win championships.
Some coaches motivate. Some coaches are smarter and better than others. But at the end of the whole song and dance, in terms of winning, a coach is only as good as his/her players/talent.
you mean sir alex, coach wenger and even yourself are not the best coaches???
If you leave it up to the players then you'll have one heck of a chaos in team organization and strategy. How can any team win?
For good examples in how coaching and organization win at the end, take a look at more Lake and Classic Lake teams. They don't have many Maradonna's but they've been very successful year in and year out. Why?
Well, I'm the second coming, but those other guys...they just have better talent. And they don't even "develop" most of their talent. They only scrape it away from the likes of West Ham, Villa, Lakeville, PSV, Richfield, etc. They aren't coaches. Wenger should coach where he belongs, for Bangu, with all those other "talent thieves."
- Sarcastic Jose
How many Players of the Year have come from the Lake or Classic Lake? Many.
I would take an uncoached, disorganized, out-of-position All-Metro team without a goalie over a Guus Hiddink coached JV team any day of the week.
2:55 - the reason why is that although they do not have many Maradonna's (although 3:05 does pose a solid question) what they do have is greater overall depth and quality than many other conferences. The development these players received in their respective youth programs at the early years and then the soccer clubs (MTA, Wings, BHWKS, etc...) as they get older gives those high schools a decided advantage. I also do not think that 1:24 is suggesting that the coach is reading a newspaper during practice, but rather he's adapted Osseo's style of play to the talent that he has. Although he may not have any experience, that is actually very good coaching.
Osseo's coach, if not a "good" soccer coach, may be a great manager of people. Perhaps he realizes that he has a talented forward who knows more about scoring goals than himself and he allows that talented forward to go out and score many goals against unequal opposition. Sounds to me like he has some skilled players, he puts them in some good positions, and they play a little football rather than kickball.
ep will not "run" down burnsville. EP tied kennedy? and jefferson beat them? burnsville beat kennedy tied jerfferson? so i say it will be a good game. ep may have more possesion and play better but its not going to be a 5-0 or 3-0 win i think 1-0 or 2-1 game.
HS game predictions are so dumb. After spending a day in class and doing who knows what else during the day, coupled with some crazy HS coaching, you never know what kind of team will show up to play.
I think the Burnsville-EP game will be 7-1, or 1-1, or 4-5, but it won't be 3-1.
Mr. Soccer is not the best player in State...pfleese. First, it comes from teams that advance furthest in State tournament. Second, who the coach put up to run for Mr. Soccer. Third, what the coaches think and vote for the player. Better Coaching and better organization are the core of better teams.
Mr. Soccer is not the best player in State...pfleese. First, it comes from teams that advance furthest in State tournament. Second, who the coach put up to run for Mr. Soccer. Third, what the coaches think and vote for the player. Better Coaching and better organization are the core of better teams.
Past years Mr. Soccer:
2007 Class 2A/ Colin Monasterio, Wayzata
2006 Class 2A/ Abe Gibbons, Mpls. South
2005 Class 2A/ Ryan Vint, Wayzata
2004/ Jon Stillwell, Jefferson
2003/ Anthony Keller, Wayzata
2002/ Danny Horst, Stillwater
2001/ Chris Glinski, Roch. Lourdes
2000/ Drew Roddy, Orono
1999/ Bobby Lish, Mounds View
1998/ Chad Morse, Maple Grove
1997/ Dana Kurttila, Stillwater
1996/ Marshall Morehead, Stillwater
Eagan 2 - 1 over Jefferson
Assistant coaches remarking how bad the coach is.
Can anyone else verify this score?
Anonymous said...
Eagan 2 - 1 over Jefferson
24/9/08 9:49 PM
Game recap for Eagan vs Bloomington Jefferson would be great.
For the Mr. Soccer list, while maybe not always the THE BEST player, each of those players was certainly top 5 in their class (except for maybe 1 strange year).
Star individuals and serviceable roll players are the core of better teams. Coaching is secondary. The season is too short for coaching to have a greater impact than the quality of the talent.
Blomington Jefferson is a large and physical team who ave very talented in tight spaces. Some very good ball handlers. Saw the game last night because of the weather reschedule. Eagan played well in the open field and controlled play. Reminded me of Wayzata. Final 2-1 for Eagan.
Early predition - EP to win State.
How did Eagan score those 2 goals? Breakaway?
Within 5 years span, Wayzata has 3 players as Mr. Soccer...strange or got power like Mr. Bush...
me xman goals we're scored on throw ins. Not a surprise as narrow as the field is. B.J. scored on a throw in as well.
Wayzata does well because they have great participation in youth soccer, thus exposing all kinds of kids with resources to good soccer stuff. Are you going to tell me that Wager has amazing skills? He may be a nice guy, but has little idea what is actually going on.
They get Mr. Soccer because they have a few very good players with a supporting cast; as stated earlier, your team needs to do well to get Mr. Soccer. They also get foreign students and open-enrollees that can actually play. For example, the two foreigners last year...
7:59pm I'm not sure if anyone knows what the Mr. Soccer formula really is. It all comes down to stats and a lot of lobbying. If a coach is good at that and willing to put fourth the effort, that player will be on the radar.
Eagan controlled play the first half with BJ rarely getting past mid-field. Jefferson marked Schlitter during first half. Jefferson had opportunities in second half and was much more aggressive. Had some opportunities but couldn't finish. Eagan substantially improved since I watched them early in season.
Looking like Eagan will make Top 10 next week...
They've got easier schedule than Jefferson.
Eagan games: Burnsville and Lakeville South.
Jefferson: Rosemount and Apple Valley.
Amazing Eagan hasn't been ranked before. They have won 10 of 12 games with only losses to number 1 and 2 ranked teams. I'm convinced coaches don't even look at schedules when voting. How could Suburban East teams be rated ahead of them when schedules are compared?
Top 10 in Action - Wednesday 9/24 Result
1. Apple Valley (off)
2. Eden Prairie (off)
3. Osseo (off)
4. Edina (off)
5. Coon Rapids (off)
6. St. Louis Park (off)
7. Minneapolis Southwest (Minneapolis Southwest 16, Minneapolis North 0) Won
8. Bloomington Jefferson (off)
9. Cretin-Derham Hall (off)
10. Woodbury (off)
Minneapolis North Record
Fri 5 5:30 PM Minneapolis Roosevelt Lost 13-0
Sat 6 11:00 AM Robbinsdale Cooper Lost 9-0
Tue 9 4:30 PM Minneapolis Edison Lost 16-0
Thu 11 5:30 PM Minneapolis Henry Lost 6-0
Sat 13 3:00 PM Columbia Heights Lost 10-0
Mon 15 4:30 PM Minneapolis Southwest Lost 14-0
Tue 16 5:30 PM Minneapolis Washburn Lost 15-0
Wed 17 5:30 PM Minneapolis South Lost 18-0
Fri 19 5:30 PM Minneapolis Edison Lost 11-0
Wed 24 5:30 PM Minneapolis Southwest Lost 16-0
o I feel for these kids...
MG 1 Anoka 1 in OT. Anoka scored with under a minute left from a huge throw
Put Eagan's Schlittler on the very short list for Mr. Soccer. Lots of good players this year. Few outstanding.
8:40 - You are exactly right! The Minneapolis schools are not competitive with the other metro schools. Yet with some creative marketing sometimes get Mr. Soccer candidates with the goals you can raack up against a 0-17 team. So the top ten list gets to be the best team in each sectional area. This does not represent the ten best in the state.
It is amazing how much talent is in the Lake conference. Three teams in state top ten all year!
Those Wayzata players were good, deserving players of the award and they played on very good Wayzata teams. No one was more deserving that CM last year.
It's really too bad that Mpls South and others are putting up 18 goals on North. Can't they get to 5 goals and play keep-away the rest of the game? Why are they padding their stats? Why are they disrespecting their opponent? Why don't they practice good habits and possess the ball with two touches a little bit? If I was to play against Mpls South...
8:48 - did the throw in touch somebody before it went in the net this time?
3:20 - Osseo's head coach doesn't run the team, his assistant does...
9:26 - whoever is in charge at Osseo they seem to have found something that is currently working. Based on your comment, if the team does not go as far as many think they can, will the head coach get blamed or the assistant who is running the team...?
The Wayzata players were good. But you need the supporting cast to win it. Other players don't win because they don't have the team or their coach is an idiot.
A lot of kids think that the coaches all sit down and pick all-state or something. Nope. It's the section coaches who decide at the section seed meeting. Can be very political. What a joke. I should know.
I assume former Wayzata coach knew how to pull the string...three players in 5 years is pretty good.
The winners from '99 & '01 didn't have supporting casts, but they deserved to win. The winner in '00 didn't have a supporting cast.
If the best player wins it this year, RG wins it, easy. And anyone who knows anything knows it. WB will win it because he's the best player on a good team with a lot of goals. Both players are deserving.
A coach didn't find anything that is working at Osseo. It's a good player scoring a lot of goals and some other good players holding down the fort.
JM
I think y'all missing the point about coaching impacting the team. You need to watch the practices rather than games to truly see how coaches and organization impacting the players and games.
It boils down to that you need both sides of work in making a good team. Good players and good coaches. That's about it.
Top 10 in Action - Thursday 9/25
1. Apple Valley (Home 5pm vs Chaska)
2. Eden Prairie (Home 5pm vs Lakeville South)
3. Osseo (Away 5pm at Blaine)
4. Edina (Home 5pm vs Wayzata)
5. Coon Rapids (Home 5pm vs Park Center)
6. St. Louis Park (Away 5pm at Totino-Grace)
7. Minneapolis Southwest (Home 5:30pm vs Minneapolis Washburn)
8. Bloomington Jefferson (Away 5pm at Rosemount)
9. Cretin-Derham Hall (Away 7pm at Stillwater Area)
10. Woodbury (Home 7pm vs White Bear Lake)
Games to watch
Park Center vs. Coon Rapids | 5:00 PM at Coon Rapids
Cretin-Derham Hall vs. Stillwater Area | 7:00 PM at Stillwater Area
St. Louis Park vs. Totino-Grace | 5:00 PM at Totino-Grace
Predictions
Park Center 0-3 Coon Rapids
Cretin-Derham Hall 2-1 Stillwater Area
St. Louis Park 0-3 Totino-Grace
me xman totally agree with the need to watch the practice sessions, and prep for a game. To often an evaluation of the coaching staff is based on the games. Any opinion on Mr. Soccer and your top five front runners?
9;34am...Yeh the assistant get's the credit when their winning... and the head coach gets the credit when losing (hmm). Hidden agenda, it's not often you see their name (assistant) in the paper when there losing. Assistant coach with loyalty issues??? In business I think they call that undermining.
Most coaching takes place in practice sessions, but how often is that training translated into the games by these HS players? If these coaches were running great practice sessions and if the players were implementing that into games, we'd be seeing some really pretty football.
I think there are probably 2 or 3 teams in any given season that play an appealing brand of football. Why did Anoka win it last year? Coaching? Valley, Wayzata, Edina, they've all relied on players. Again, I'll take 11 uncoached All-Metro players over 11 Hiddink-coached scrubs any day of the week.
It's not uncommon to have assistants running the technicals and tacticals. One good exmaple come to mind is Wayzata. Wagner had ODP coaches helping him out.
Me X Man - you must work for the Star Trib and only look at West suburbs.
I don't work for Strib and you're right I'm an ignorant of the east side. I've got to get butt going there.
me xman, respectable list no doubt and obviously have kept up on your homework. Keep an eye on Ryan Schlittler as well. FYI- Scored his 50th high school career goal last night against Jefferson...worth mentioning. You appear to have the pulse a majority of the time. If you haven't had exposure to this kid yet, try to make an effort to check him out, you won't be dissappointed.
It's all about club ball when you break it down. Wayzata has at least 5 good club teams in their area. A Standout in Red Wing will never get noticed because the team will be under the radar.
ME XMAN
You need to get out and see more Lake Conference games. The players you mention are all solid, but missing guys like Schlittler, you are falling for the Star Trib/West Suburban Hype.
Just my opinion - A Wings Parent.
1:26pm not sure if your completely accurate on me xman. Comes up with a lot of credible stuff. Why so interested in the Lake as Wings parent? Dog in the race???
Jefferson would be a much better team if the coach just let them play their game. They are better than their record.
2:07pm What is their game? They we're miserable last year. New coach, now getting results. Don't know of many teams who had a winning record without a coach. I think you need to get out of the chair and pick up a whistle.
And what would "their game" be? Is it the same game that gave them so much success the previous couple years with a different coach? Or is it the same game that went to the dome 3 out of 5 years?
2:20pm...well done with the homework.
Don't rip Mpls. players just because they have to play North. South and Southwest have produced some great players. The Gibbons brothers were an awesome force for South. It's too bad those teams don't get to play tougher competition regularly; it can be tough to play Henry or North followed by Apple Valley or Wayzata...
And North doesn't even try. It's pathetic.
And yes, I am a Surburban dude.
I think most important in Mr. Soccer is your stats, wins, previous year publicity, and how well the club scene loves you.
More pathetic than not trying is scoring 18 goals in an 80 minute game. Pass the ball around a bit. Gibbons boys were good.
Maybe if they didn't run up the score so much and if they put quality football on display rather than scoring every 4 minutes, their Mpls opposition would be slightly more encouraged for future years. The ripple effect of bad football goes on, and on, and on...
No homework. Some people just know. Some people don't.
-2:20
Mr. Soccer probably should come down to stats and wins. That's what good players do. They win and they put up good numbers? For a tie-breaker, previous success and club success seem like good categories.
This is why WB should have it locked up pretty soon.
I don't fault the players in one sided romps. I fault the coaches who keep their star players in the game when it's out of hand.
Minneapolis SW has done that for the past few years.
me x man,is your son a senior at Osseo?
Neither Gibbons or Monasterios teams made it to the state finals the years they won Mr. Soccer. Monasterio did not ever have good stats in HS and he won it. He deserved to win it because he was the best player. Gibbons stats were good and he was also the best player that year. Those who rip his stats should realize that he was a midfielder who racked up assists while playing only 20minutes in those blow out games. He and his brother used to even sit those games out occasionally. Yes, I used to help coach the Gibbons and trained them both in ODP.
For the most part the coaches get it right when they vote for Mr. Soccer. You can certainly argue that other players were also deserving and they probably were. The candidates listed above and are all good players. I think the voting will be close this year.
CR 3 - PC 2
Other scores?
eagan 4-1 over burnsville.
ryan schlittler scored his 52 goal of his career tonight against burnsville. overall i though burnsville should have won that game because they had better possesion, played better than eagan did and had there chemistry going but eagan came out on top and scored the first goal and kept scoring. this burnsville team is not looking good this year. they have the talent but teamwork needs improvement.
*Apple Valley Parent*
Jefferson 1 Rosemount 0
MG 1 centennial 0.. good game MG dominated i'd say, got a little dirty at the end but maple grove hit something like 3 posts
i disagree with the comment that Whitney Brown should be THIS years Mr. Soccer, hes one of the best players in the state hands down, but he is a junior isnt he? I think Mr. Soccer should be awarded to a senior regardless. We all know WB will dominate the high school league next year. I cant wait to see what kind of stats he will put up then.
no man hes a 93' birthday but hes a senior its crazy
Champlin Park over Elk River 2-1 in OT
Osseo 3, Blaine 1
Whitney Browne scored 2 goals
Whitney just turned 16 and he's senior and has good grades. If he's any bigger like his brother he would be in D1.
Is Centennial going downhill? They were playing good earlier in the season. Not another Lakeville North team.
how does section seeding work? is it based on conference and head-to-head record?
Lakeville South 0, Eden Prairie 0
What's with EP lately?
They should roll over Lakeville South.
Wayzata 2, Edina 1
Edina drops three straight losses.
What's wrong with them? Injuries?
I always like how people who just don't know things blather away with incorrect information.
WB is a senior and will get my vote for Mr. Soccer.
CM made it to the state final his senior year with Wayzata when he won Mr. Soccer. That was only 11 months ago. That's some good short term memory to have already forgotten that. Statistics don't only refer to goals and assists. We have had keepers and defenders win Mr. Soccer.
-2:20
Me-x
Are you Osseo asst?
So far I like WB, AW, & RS.
Previous suggestion for Davis is just crazy. Hoangs ineligible because of a minor consumption. Edina boys are not bad choices just not my top three.
For all you RG fans, take a reality break. He has done 0000 this year and has at least one red card for trying to take a player out and when the ref carded him his response was to tell the ref that he could do whatever he wants. I have watched him play numorous times this year he looks disinterested out of shape and lazy. There are a half dozen players that I have seen in his conference alone that are playing much better than the great RG.
WB will have a good chance to win Mr Soccer. To win Mr Soccer you have to be the player of the year from your conf. Then it is discussed at the meeting where all state players are selected by the section reps. If a player does not get the number one player out of their conference they have no chance.
Who's RG?
WB is looking good for Mr. Soccer.
Ep 1 LakeSouth 1 and Wayzata 2 and Edina 1
Cretin 0 Stillwater 2
http://www.eteamz.com/jeffersonboyssoccer/index.cfm?
I want to know why xman was high on cretin. woodbury and stillwater beat them.
Top 10 is deathwish
Ryan MacArthur is a one man team for Zimmerman. Hands down the best, plays wherever his coach needs him.
WB for mr. soccer..hes going D1
I'll vote for Ryan MacArthur for Mr. Soccer.
where's WB going next year?
RG might not be the roll model that Charles Barkley is, but he's the most talented player in HS soccer this fall. My vote is for WB.
AV 2 Chaska 0
WB is a great player but there is no way the kid just turned 16, i would love to see an original birth certificate for him, especially if he is a senior in high school, so he started school when he was 3 years old, don't believe it
Valley at jefferson on Saturday
WB is actually 18 and holding back couple years due to slow bone growth
LOL!
AV will walk over chaska
that goes for all the other african kids on osseo too
I was able to make it to the Eagan/Burnsville game this evening. First of all, Burnsville clearly outplayed Eagan for the first 30 minutes and had many opportunities to score but just didn't. Eagan scored its first goal with 10 minutes left in the first half. After that, it was all Eagan. Also, Ryan Schlittler was very impressive. He is patient and allows the game to come to him. When he does get an advantage, he quickly executes. He scored 2 goals and had 2 assists while hardly breaking a sweat. I have seen about a dozen different Metro teams this year and he is easily the best player I've seen
Working graveyard shift is the pit. I didn't get to see any games tonight.
Surprise to see Edina got beat Wayzata, LS tied EP, Totino Grace got beat by St. Louis Park, Stillwater beat CDH.
I see WB scored 2 goals and has good chance taking Mr. Soccer if Osseo can make it to State.
I live in Ramsey if you care and I dislike the coach who know who.
You're stereotyping
Anonymous said...
that goes for all the other african kids on osseo too
25/9/08 10:51 PM
WB is smart kid. His family struggles to make it in life and yes most african families do. He knows education is the way out and he's trying his best to get there. Give the kid a break.
Anonymous said...
WB is actually 18 and holding back couple years due to slow bone growth
LOL!
25/9/08 10:13 PM
BTW, WB's brother Martin is doing well at Western Illinois. They know education is the key to be successful in life.
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Top 10 in Action - Thursday 9/25 Results
1. Apple Valley (Apple Valley 2, Chaska 0) Won
2. Eden Prairie (Eden Prairie 0, Lakeville South 0) Tied
3. Osseo (Osseo 3, Blaine 1) Won
4. Edina (Edina 1, Wayzata 2) Lost
5. Coon Rapids (Coon Rapids 3, Park Center 2) Won
6. St. Louis Park (St. Louis Park 3, Totino-Grace 2) Won
7. Minneapolis Southwest (Southwest 5, Washburn 0) Won
8. Bloomington Jefferson (Bloomington Jefferson 1, Rosemount 0)
9. Cretin-Derham Hall (CDH 0, Stillwater Area 2) Lost
10. Woodbury (Home 7pm vs White Bear Lake)
Games to watch
Park Center 2-3 Coon Rapids
Cretin-Derham Hall 0-2 Stillwater Area
St. Louis Park 3-2 Totino-Grace
Predictions
Park Center 0-3 Coon Rapids (Final: Park Center 2-3 Coon Rapids) Yes
Cretin-Derham Hall 2-1 Stillwater Area (Final: Cretin-Derham Hall 0-2 Stillwater Area) No
St. Louis Park 0-3 Totino-Grace (Final: St. Louis Park 3-2 Totino-Grace) No
A few thoughts
o Surprised to see Edina lost again. That's three straight. Spencer Duhaime is one fun kid.
o EP tied Lakeville South? How? EP is better than that. Taking a breather?
o St.Louis Park is proving their ranking. Paul Yonga you've got to do better. Jerry must be going nuts watching.
o CDH is letting me down dropping to Woodbury and Stillwater. Top 10 is too much to handle I guess.
o Mpls SW continues to beat on easy teams.
EP has been overrated all year. I have seen these guys play for a couple years and they would get obliterated by the EP team from last year. They have little creativity on top, decent mids and defenders and inexperience in goal. Not the recipe of a state championship.
EP parent.
Ryan MacArthur was the leading goal scorer I believe for the Bangu U17 team last summer that Rodrigo and Dula and Spencer Duhaime plays on. And he normally does not play striker.
Wayzata over Edina shouldn't be a surprise, all the Classic Lake teams are beating up on each other. Although they aren't as good as in previous years, don't be surprised if Wayzata makes it out of their section. They are big, fast and work extremely hard -- the prototypical HS team.
Mpls South and Southwest are in a tough spot having to play city strugglers like North, which probably couldn't compete at the JV level. Refs have even been shortening the games to 60 minutes, so the top players probably only play 30 minutes or so. They would easily be better off practicing than playing in these games, and the conference mandates that they have to play teams like North, Henry and Edison twice each season, which isn't any good for either side.
Because of the soft conference schedule, teams like South load up the non-conference slate -- Osseo, Wayzata, Armstrong, Jefferson and Benilde (No. 5 in Class A) -- and also play Southwest twice. It's tough to stay sharp when you play Edison one day and No. 7 Southwest the next.
I've been watching Dula and he's been disappointing.
As for Mr. Soccer - The short list is usually right on, but the final selection is not always on the mark. IE Last year Montestario was a outstanding choice, the year before, Gibbons was not. Every coach will tell you it's political.
Very tough for coaches to see in person the players they are voting for.
Dula had a real coach with Bangu, Greg Holker. I don't know about the South guy, David Dietl, but he's no Carl Craig.
I would like to see how Ryan MacArthur score against Coon Rapids tomorrow. CR will hand them a beating.
Don't forget Jake Szymanski - St. Thomas for Mr. Soccer in A. He is teams leading goal scorer and a beast in the middle. Unlike other A players, he doesnt get a chance to score 5 or more goals in blowout games. His coach is classy enough to sit him for large stretches after they have comfortable leads. I wonder how may other top players are limited to 2 to 3 goals in blowouts?
For an 18-0 game in 60 minutes, you can blame everyone involved, coaches and players. It's as simple as this: no more scoring, pass the ball around, play one-touch keep-away. Both the coaches and players should know this. 18-0 in soccer is like 51-0 in baseball and 226-0 in football. If I got a chance to play against South...
Bad sportsmanship breeds bad sportsmanship
"Me-x
Are you Osseo asst?"
Someone asked this earlier and I had the same thing in the back of my head...
No reply to it makes me think bullseye.
"Real Coach."...what does that mean?
"Sit players to keep the score down."...why not just pass the ball around? Maybe these teams aren't prepared to play in playoffs (as was mentioned) because their top players are sitting on the bench.
"Wait for the game to come to him."...should great players at the HS level wait for the game?
If Messi or Cristiano waited for the game to come to them, they'd be called lazy and non-existent, probably by you.
I'm sure Dula's supporting cast has nothing to do with his play. It has everything to do with the coach, as though the coach is on the field.
This blog is filled with idiots.
me xman said he's from ramsey
jose you've got to filter out the idiots or you'll be one as well.
Questions for jose mourinho. What's game plan to beat AV EP and Osseo.
Tell me "The One",
How many goals is too many in varsity soccer -- 5-0? 8-0? 12-0? Did anyone complain when Apple Valley beat Hastings 7-0? When a JV call-up gets a chance to play and the score is 6-0, does he have to quit and pretend it's a practice? He could get that with the JV team.
Don't blame the players and coaches, fault the AD's and the conference. North should not be playing a varsity schedule. Push them back to JV and let the other city teams get 2 more games against appropriate competition. Maybe then South could schedule a quality St. Paul team (Central?) and Southwest could play a border battle with Edina.
Coon Rapids SHOULD beat Zimmerman. A lot more c1 and premier players.
Why CR has to play Zimmerman for non-conf game? What's the point?
I would not want someone to let up on my team in a game. That is the best training for a defense that allows too many goals.
6 goals is too many. 18 goals is idiotic.
Mpls Guy's idea to have North play JV is a great idea. But it is what it is. South has to play North. No reason to pile on 18 goals. That's the fault of the players and coach.
"Quit and pretend it's practice." What does that mean? Does that mean we don't try during practices? Can't we just possess the ball and not pump the ball down the field and into the net every 3 minutes?
I agree with Jose, "The Chosen One."
North has lost every game by 8-0 or worse, and they have not scored a single goal. By the reasoning of 10:50, who thinks that 6 goals are too many, then the players and coaches of ALL those teams are at fault. Is that possible?
Sadly, the absurd numbers being posted are what is required to force a change. If teams held it to 4-0 or 5-0, then clueless administrators wouldn't think that anything needed to be done.
Of course players try at practice, but that assumes some reasonable balance of competition. This is truly like passing around cones, which will hold a varsity player's interest for about 1 minute, let alone 60.
Winning 10-0 and clearing your bench early so those team members who rarely get to play is one thing. Winning 9-0 and your stud scores 5 or 6 goals is low class.
I bet teams like Wayzata and Jefferson, who play against top 20 teams all year, would like to play a North every once in a while.
Sounds like North shouldn't have a team. Why are those kids playing anyways? To burn on suspensions before basketball begins?
Holker...L.O.L.
North deserves to have a team, they just need to find the right level, which is probably JV. A couple of weeks ago, they played games on 3 consecutive days and lost 47-0, but the players were laughing, joking and hustling the whole way. Their attitude has been unbelievable, truly a credit to the game. The administrators need to wake up and give these guys a fair chance to play the sport they clearly love.
I was wondering about X-Man and the Osseo connection too. Especially when he said Lucas Hoang (his dad is asst.) has a shot at Mr. Soccer. (Good player, but Mr. soccer? You gotta be kidding me.)
They need to move South and Southwest out of Minneapolis conference and out them with Lake conference.
"Lauging, joking, hustling, sport they clearly love."
Sounds like a Mr. Rogers episode. Yet they are no better than a "set of dribbling cones."
I'm very confused. Sounds like the kids are laughing at the system for letting them burn off their suspensions playing a sport they clearly stink at.
What's the point in "competing" when you know you will get beat bad. The Minneapolis conference needs a bailout package.
Believe me, the North kids are not basketball players. But if they didn't love soccer, why would they keep showing up, only to get trounced?
Every kid should be encouraged to participate in extracurricular activities, even if they're not very good. Kids that stay active and engaged are generally healthier and better students, and they tend to get into trouble less often. With all of the major problems in the world -- war, terrorism, financial crises -- we need a lot more people like that.
I'm trying to figure out why if Hoang is running the Osseo team, why he didn't apply and get the Head Coach job to begin with? Wait a minute....isn't Psyco Mom's kid on that team?
mpls soccer guy I agree with you and if they take south and southwest out, the rest of teams are somewhat competitive. Let the kids play.
I'm not even sure what's going on here. Are you claiming that Carl Hoang is X-Man? That might help explain his adulation of Osseo and scorn for MG. And the love for WB and Carl jr... I don't think he is, but who really cares. On a separate note, Osseo and CR are the teams to beat in that conference. Osseo #1 seed in section. Who is the #1 seed in Section 5? Edina? Southwest? (!) AV in Theirs? I thought Cretin was having good results too, but now they quit scoring... Is Woodbury back in that mix?
What teams will make it from outstate/near outstate will make it? Eagan I suppose, as they play Rochester... St. Cloud?
hello.
http://minnesotapreps.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=553&tid=116321135&mid=116321135&sid=921&style=2
1:27pm What are you talking about with Eagan. You need to get up to speed with what section there in or simply watch from the sidelines.
Hey osseo dude how ya doing.
Long time no see.
I hope your basketball team not gonna choke again this year.
You D bags are stupid....Every times theres a good african kid everyone gets suspicious of the birth certificate....Whitney lived in england for a couple years and got ahead on school then came back.....Whitney is a amazing player and nobody can ever give the good kids credit on this blog...Whitney is 16 and his he may be a bit short but he sure can tear it up on the soccer field.
My boy WB for Mr. Soccer
The North coach has no idea what he is doing. He never has. If you are getting beat by these ridiculous scores, focus on defense and trying to keep the ball out of the net. The style they play is as stupid as their coach. If you were to put Danny Storlien at North, they could lower their average loss score down to 5-0...and everyone would be happier. Everyone who know DS knows he would never take on a team like this though...right ;)
Top 10 in Action - Saturday 9/27
1. Apple Valley (Away 3pm at Bloomington Jefferson)
2. Eden Prairie (Away 12pm at Eastview)
3. Osseo (Home 1pm vs South St.Paul)
4. Edina (off)
5. Coon Rapids (Home 5pm vs Zimmerman)
6. St. Louis Park (Home 1pm vs Chisago Lakes Area)
7. Minneapolis Southwest (Away 2pm at Minneapolis South)
8. Bloomington Jefferson (Home 3pm vs Apple Valley)
9. Cretin-Derham Hall (Home 1pm vs Mounds View)
10. Woodbury (Away 11am at Roseville)
Games to watch
Apple Valley vs. Bloomington Jefferson | 3:00 PM at Bloomington Jefferson
Minneapolis Southwest vs. Minneapolis South | 2:00 PM at Minneapolis South
Predictions
Apple Valley 2-1 Bloomington Jefferson
Mpls Southwest 2-1 Mpls South
Section Assignments
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/showcompsection07.asp?activity=413
Section 1
Lakeville North
Lakeville South
Mayo
Marshall
Century
Winona
Farmington
Owatana
I will take Mayo or Owatana
Section 2
EP
Jefferson
Edina
Prior Lake
Kennedy
Chaska
Mtonka
Shakopee
I will take EP or Jefferson
Section 3
Apple Valley
Burnsville
Eagan
Eastview
Hastings
Sibley
Park CG
Rosemount
I will take AV or Eagan
Section 4
Cretin
Hill
North St Paul
Roseville
Stillwater
Tartan
WBL
Wdby
I will take Wdby or Stillwater
Section 5
Centennial
Champlin
Irondale
Maple Grove
Mounds View
Osseo
Park Center
I will take Osseo
Section 6
Buffalo
Hopkins
Southwest
Armstrong
Cooper
St Louis Park
Wayzata
South
I think the most competitive section, any team but Cooper or Buffalo could come out. Should be fun to watch.
Section 7
Andover
Anoka
Blaine
Cambridge
Coon Rapids
Forest Lake
St Francis
I will take Coon Rapids
Section 8
Bemidji
Elk River
Fergus
Moorhead
St Cloud Tech
Alex
Brainard
St Cloud Apollo
Your guess is as good as mine.
Section 3 winner vs Section 2 winner in the state final. You may see and all Lake Conf final. Eagan or AV vs Jefferson or EP
Here's where you can reach me:
612-341-2332
7:47 the section seedings could mess up your picks. I think it's still early but you have good teams winning there. I would have picked them as well. I'm working my list currently.
HS coaches and fans. Bring your teams out the NSC on Sunday at 5pm to watch the Thunder vs Vancouver. Playoff game and its great for kids to see live soccer at a higher level.
No its not the EPL but its pretty good and if you watch the Thunder play last weekend vs Montreal it was very good.
You can count on XMan being there and cheer on the Thunders.
What happened to stillwater?
What do you mean? They don't have any good players... were they supposed to be good? Cause they are terrible!
I am interested to hear the result of the Valley vs Jefferson game. Could some post it asap after the game?
Thanks
I think that Osseo is letting in too many, 23 goals against?
yeah you are not going to go very far letting in that many goals but if whitney keeps scoring its not big deal... but one bad game for him ends their season
What section plays what section? 1 v 2, 3 v 4, so on... or what???
Just saw that AV & Jefferson tied
Osseo 4, South St. Paul 0
Whitney scored one goal
Apple Valley 1, Jefferson 1 OT
Both header goals from corner kicks.
12:43 you're shortsighted and dumb.
osseo have sims, cardille, neufville, bah, hoang, amoako who can score.
Can someone compare top three teams. AV, EP, Osseo? System of play, technicals, tacticals.
Jefferson has plenty of talent but the coach is offensively bankrupt.His teams always have problems scoring.Can't imagine why they got him hangin around the Thunder.They can't score either.
AV = boot and scoot
Jefferson = boot and scoot
Osseo = too far to drive
South 2 S,West 1
Coon Rapids - Zimmerman scores?
I've seen both AV and Osseo played.
Osseo has more flavor of Premier team than boot and scoot AV. Osseo has more speed than any teams I've seen and very skillful midfielders. WB needs to have 2-3 defenders to contain him. Blaine tried to contained him but he scored two goals with 3 defenders on top of him. Osseo will win State.
BTW, if you haven't seen Osseo played I advise you to go and see them and tell me what you think of their game here.
Isn't Storlien the best coach out there? Why is he playing boot and scoot game?
The best coach out there plays 11 players for 80 minutes?
I don't believe Storlien won't put subs in to give his starters some water and breather. He's probably conditioning them to play for section title.
Don't know the guy and haven't watched the team before but I'm pretty sure nobody else played but the original 11, even after #24 got a yellow. Just seems strange that they don't have anybody else who can play...
Top 10 in Action - Saturday 9/27 Results
1. Apple Valley (Apple Valley 1, Bloomington Jefferson 1) Tied
2. Eden Prairie (Eden Prairie 2, Eastview 0) Won
3. Osseo (Osseo 4, South St.Paul 0) Won
4. Edina (off)
5. Coon Rapids (Home 5pm vs Zimmerman)
6. St. Louis Park (St. Louis Park 3, Chisago Lakes Area 0) Won
7. Minneapolis Southwest (Minneapolis South 2, Minneapolis Southwest 1) Lost
8. Bloomington Jefferson (Apple Valley 1, Bloomington Jefferson 1) Tied
9. Cretin-Derham Hall (Cretin-Derham Hall 2, Mounds View 0) Won
10. Woodbury (Woodbury 1, Roseville 1) Tied
Games to watch - Results
Apple Valley 1-1 Bloomington Jefferson
Minneapolis Southwest 1-2 Minneapolis South
Predictions - Results
Apple Valley 2-1 Bloomington Jefferson (Final: Apple Valley 1-1 Bloomington Jefferson)
Mpls Southwest 2-1 Mpls South (Final: Minneapolis Southwest 1-2 Minneapolis South)
o 0-for-2...man I'm getting worse...
A few thoughts
o Hopkins to make Top 10 and replacing Cretin-Derham Hall.
o Eagan to make Top 10 and replacing Minneapolis Southwest.
Top 10 in Action - Week 9/22 Results
1. Apple Valley - WWT
Mon 22 7:00 PM Henry Sibley W 5-0
Thu 25 5:00 PM Chaska W 2-0
Sat 27 3:00 PM Bloomington Jefferson T 1-1
2. Eden Prairie - TW
Thu 25 5:00 PM Lakeville South T 0-0
Sat 27 12:00 PM Eastview W 2-0
3. Osseo - WWW
Tue 23 7:00 PM Andover W 8-2
Thu 25 5:00 PM Blaine W 3-1
Sat 27 1:00 PM South St. Paul W 4-0
4. Edina - L
Thu 25 5:00 PM Wayzata L 2-1
5. Coon Rapids - TWW
Tue 23 7:00 PM Centennial T 2-2
Thu 25 5:00 PM Park Center W 3-2
Sat 27 5:00 PM Zimmerman W 5-0
6. St. Louis Park - WWW
Tue 23 7:00 PM North Branch W 3-0
Thu 25 5:00 PM Totino-Grace W 3-2
Sat 27 1:00 PM Chisago Lakes Area W 3-0
7. Minneapolis Southwest - WWL
Wed 24 5:30 PM Minneapolis North W 16-0
Thu 25 5:30 PM Minneapolis Washburn W 5-0
Sat 27 2:00 PM Minneapolis South L 2-1
8. Bloomington Jefferson - LWT
Wed 24 7:00 PM Eagan L 2-1
Thu 25 5:00 PM Rosemount W 1-0
Sat 27 3:00 PM Apple Valley T 1-1
9. Cretin-Derham Hall - LLW
Mon 22 6:00 PM Woodbury L 2-0
Thu 25 7:00 PM Stillwater Area L 2-0
Sat 27 1:00 PM Mounds View W 2-0
10. Woodbury - WWT
Mon 22 6:00 PM Cretin-Derham Hall W 2-0
Thu 25 7:00 PM White Bear Lake W 3-2
Sat 27 11:00 AM Roseville T 1-1
XMan Top 10 - Week 9/29
1. Apple Valley (14-1-1)
2. Osseo (11-1-2)
3. Eden Prairie (10-1-4)
4. St. Louis Park (11-2-2)
5. Coon Rapids (9-2-2)
6. Woodbury (8-2-3)
7. Eagan (14-3)
8. Bloomington Jefferson (9-3-3)
9. Edina (9-4-1)
10. Hopkins (7-4-1)
Dropped from Top 10
Minneapolis Southwest and Cretin-Derham Hall.
Added to Top 10
Hopkins and Eagan.
Hopkins record last 2 weeks
Tue 16 5:00 PM Edina W 3-2
Thu 18 5:00 PM Robbinsdale Armstrong W 3-0
Sat 20 11:00 AM Monticello W 4-0
Sat 27 11:00 AM Shakopee W 4-2
Eagan record last 2 weeks
Tue 16 7:00 PM Lakeville North W 3-1
Thu 18 5:00 PM Chaska W 1-0
Sat 20 1:00 PM Duluth East W 1-0
Wed 24 7:00 PM Bloomington Jefferson W 2-1
Thu 25 5:00 PM Burnsville W 4-1
Sat 27 3:00 PM Lakeville South W 5-0
Woodbury up to 6 after a tie with Roseville on Saturday?
Woodbury is not good and only has 14 games on there schedule. Thats 4 less games then everyone else. Even if they win out 14 games is weak scheduleing.
Eden Prairie should be #1. They destroyed Apple Valley.
EP destroyed valley but tied lakeville south..? tied kennedy..? loss to jefferson...? soo know they shouldnt be number 1. valley should stay number 1.
Jefferson tied Apple Valley. EP crushed Apple Valley 5-1.
Head to head competition tells the story.
i think upsets will happen during sections. it could happen dont have your doubts.
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