As winter tournaments and USYSA national league starts to ramp up, please use this post to keep us up to date on MN boys teams heading to warm soccer climates.
if our great coaches on the boys side can claim 'AA' HS as their level of championship, are we afraid of stepping out and face the competition on the boys travel?
how come storlein did not coach bangu U16 boys in disney?
anon 4:31, Tell us which coach from your club (or any club in Minnesota) can claim a Minnesota State HS championship and also claim playing in the National Youth Championship finals match. We'll wait for your response...but we won't hold our breath.
There is so much anger and jealousy in here its enough to make me throw up on my shoes. Its no wonder the other blog shut down, and I am guessing this one will be gone in short order as well.
Some of you really need to stop, take a deep breath and think before you type. Not only are you making yourselves look stupid, people from other states are lurking in here and they are laughing their butts off.
I know one coach up here who has a BOYS USYS National Championship ring, and no it wasn't 50 years ago, it was 2001.
Now he coaches mostly girls. Its interesting to hear him talk about that team though, and just how many things had to go absolutely perfectly, how many stars had to be aligned just to even get there, let alone win it. I've heard him say many times "I could work twice as hard with three times as much talent, make all the right decisions, and never get there again." You can't pin Minnesota's lack of success on that level on any one thing, just like when it does happen, it won't happen because of a single coach or player.
I feel I must comment on the S-SM discussion. I live in California, my son was accepted to S-SM for the current year but we decided to wait because he is only in 8th grade. He is a 93, Region IV player, Cal-North State Team, Super-Y National Camp invitee and his club has just been accepted into the US Developmental Academy.
My point is that even though I am not from MN, we have visited twice and trained with S-SM both times. The staff and facilities are top-notch. MN should be proud that S-SM is in their state. Provincial politics and jealousies aside, people should realize a rising tide lifts all boats. Furthermore, the fact of the matter is that competition is good for all concerned, players as well as coaches.
I believe the proof will be in the pudding when the Shattuck players are placed into top-notch college programs. This has already begun to take place.
We have not decided if our son will attend, however if S-SM were on the West Coast the decision would have already been made. It is not for everyone, but bashing and rumor-mongering is uncalled for and inappropriate. Thanks.
Good question...He is a 4.0 in middle-school. The latest commitments from the SSM 18's includes: Harvard, Princeton, Santa Clara, Akron, Notre Dame etc. Pretty impressive list for a new program. Also, the lone senior last year went to Butler. Seems like the academic/soccer program is paying dividends for what most of us feel is the endgame: college.
I guess if college is the endgame why would you send him to SSM? From your soccer description he is well on his way to having interest from lots of schools and if he is a good student they will be good academically also. I would guess the SoCal clubs send a lot of good players to good colleges every year themselves.
In 2007 MN had players commit to schools such as Boston U., Creighton, DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Miami OH, Northwestern, Providence etc. I would expect those numbers to increase greatly in the next few years. Those numbers would be dwarfed by California. If college is the "endgame" there is no need to attend Shattuck.
dad considering SSM - 7:06 hits it right on the head. I know all those kids at SSM going to all those schools, and I have news for you, they'd be on their way to those places even without SSM. If the endgame is college SSM is just not necessary, save your money. Now, for some of those kids who have bigger things in mind, possibly future pros, then I see more of the rationale as to why you'd go to a residential academy. I don't agree with it but I understand it. This is why SSMs boys make a little sense to me, and the girls make none. The girls have practically no reason at all to go there, unless you believe their "academics and athletics all in the same place pitch." Perhaps a nice perk, but not worth 30g in my opinion.
For me it comes down to one thing, forget the soccer, the academics, forget it all - I PERSONALLY don't think people should pay someone else to raise their kid. I disagree with the entire boarding school principle. Getting away from home? Thats what college is for. Enjoy having your kid around for the next four years, you can air mail him to a school accross the country later, there's plenty of time for that.
personally, thinking of what college to attend while in 8th grade and before attending high school seems a bit backward. When you look too far into the future you oftentimes lose sight of the present......
I can appreciate all of the comments vis-a-vis college and SSM. A huge part of our decision is whether it is appropriate for our son to leave home when he is 15 years old. We haven't made that decision. There are arguments on both sides of the equation. It is true that SSM is not the only route for college-bound soccer players.
Nobody ever talks about the intrinsic experience of attending a school like SSM. Maybe it is a unique, rewarding experience for certain kids. I just don't understand the few people who are so vocal against the program.
It seems like the evolution of soccer parents is a bit behind in Minnesota. My experience on the West Coast is a little different. By the time our kids, at least the better players, have reached U-16 or so, there seems to be less emphasis on winning meaningless tournaments and being ranked on meaningless websites. I just feel that with the USSF Academy, PSA, Shattuck and forward-looking clubs the landscape is changing. My .02 cents.
I guess the question is whether MN being a bit behind in the "evolution of soccer parents" is a good or bad thing. I would also tend to disagree with your comment that there seems to be less emphasis on winning meaningless tournaments at U16 and above on the west coast. Take a peak at gotsoccer.com for RIV and I see a whole lot of tournaments being played. As an FYI, more than one MN club applied for USSF Academy status but were denied (one reason is our geographic isolation and travel).
Ask the legions of families that have pulled their kids out of SSM after sending them, then you'll get a BROADER basis on which to make your decision, incstead of just drinking all the cool aid they give you in their little house in the parking lot.
I supposed "legions" is a term only applicable to the girls side (check their turnover numbers and you'll be appauled) but there have been a few boys who've jumped ship as well.
Look at both sides, then make a holistic choice. Maybe it IS the best thing for your kid.
About two years ago our family was wrestling with the same decision. I can honestly say, we are very happy not to have sent our son to SSM. I don't think he'd be any better of a soccer player or a person than he is now. In fact I think he's a better person, but hey I'm his parent and I know he walks on water (LOL). The boys who are going and playing D1 soccer, were going to those places anyway. SSM has benefit far more from them, then they have from SSM.
One final note, that not many of us wish to talk about. Most kids in this age group discover Drugs, Drinking and Sex. Even at SSM. When it does happen, how involved do you want to be in what is happening in his life at that time. I know SSM likes to make you think the kids are closely watch and will never have the opportunity. But I'll tell you, it happens, is happening and will happen. Sad as it may seem it is a part of growing up.
In order to get academy-like soccer training here in the US Why do players have to wait until they're 15/16 years old and pay 30,000 to attend a boarding school? How long until US soccer, MLS, or the Thunder step up and give kids some decent options starting at an early age. Go and watch a Division 1 college soccer game and you will see how the technical ability is sorely lacking. The current system we have in this country is not the right way to build a supposed "rising power" in world soccer.
Anon 3:45, It all comes down to money. Which of the professional teams in USA can afford to set up an Academy like they have in Europe? They can barely make payroll. The Thunder has struggled financially despite paying their players peanuts. If our pro teams filled the stadiums like they do in Europe then we might have achance to see the pro teams setting up academies for the youth players. Until then don't hold your breath.
haha, not to mention that "8:54" never says his son went to Shattuck, in fact specifically points out that he DIDN'T. So far 10:25 is the early candidate for worst post of the year, 2008
Wow. My partner works as a soccer coach in Minnesota and always has such a hard time dealing with parents getting downright evil with one another over club rivalries. I came on this site to see what folks are saying about his team. But I find that all you people do is try to prove your club is the best by insulting the others. Now I see my partner was't stretching the truth. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Correcting someone's grammar to prove they're a teenager? Did it ever occur to you that if there's a teenager on this blog, you should demonstrate respect and civility that reaches beyond petty prods and sarcastic put-downs? And to do that to a child is incredible. A word of caution: try to imagine saying these things to these people in person, face to face, before you type in and send it out online. I blame myself for even coming on this site to learn more about my partner's work. You all have ruined my day. Don't worry; it won't happen again.
I am also not a native Minnesotan. I can tell you that the passive-agressive "MN nice" is fairly accurate description of the culture here. Nice to your face, but really petty and talk about you behind your back. I think the same attitudes lead to the agressive driving that occurs here as well. I laugh when I hear the local media use the "MN nice" term as a term of endearment.
I am not sure how one can make such a broad stroke opinion about boarding schools...I guess the same can be said about ivies and such..really a true point of ignorance..if you don't think ssm makes better soccer players, then you really are a non soccer parent..the fact is, every successful country has academy programs that start when..hold your breath...these kids are six...to bash ssm because it's one of the few resources in this country that tries to emulate what other countries have done is not only a slam at these other countries, but a personal attack on those who CHOOSE to send there kid's there...when I read post from these so called parents who say ssm really wanted there kid's but didn't go and then go slam ssm it really makes you wonder the level of soccer knowledge on this blog...which by the way has become the amusement for youth soccer blogs.....nice job!
Totally agree about the MN nice concept. That is why I'm trying to break the mold. Yes, what I say on the blog here, I would say to your face in person.
I don't understand why more people do not want to stand behind what they think when they are willing to state it in writing, in public. It does make you think they would say something different to your face.
Newspaper editorial sections don't publish views without the person willing to state who they are and where they reside (in general).
SSM does not emulate what other countries to. They say they do, they don't. As someone who has seen European academies FIRST HAND and also is very familiar with SSM, I can tell you its not the same thing. Primary difference? European academies don't take the kids away from home, with very few exceptions. In fact even those few exceptions only occur at U17 or older.
This is not an anti-ssm post, I find what they are doing interesting. However, I'm just sick of hearing champions of SSM talk about how they are doing what Europe does. They aren't. Good, bad, whatever, it needs to be called what it is, something different.
anon130 - good point in your post. Remember though, how many academies exist, let's say, just in England? Their numbers allow many to stay within their communities. It is their sport
The world sport has a longer, richer development culture in Europe than we could ever hope for here.
Here soccer is just one of many options available to kids. Of course we try to Americanize the sport instead of realizing it is a world sport
they aren't doing anything revolutionary on the pitch that I haven't seen from other clubs - its not like SSM has a set of special magic european drills nobody else in the soccer world knows about, so no.
The amount they do it isn't even the same, they champion their 6-7 days a week approach, when I was at an academy on Holland they trained three times a week.
so again, make your own judgements on it, but don't call it "what everyone else is doing around the world." IT JUST ISN'T.
good point - there are some serious differences. Specific example you say? They will lift on the same day they train, go from the weight room to the field or vise versa, with 15 year olds. I think you'd be hard pressed to find an academy in Europe, or here for that matter, that does this. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks this is a good idea outside the SSM environment, but its THEIR environment and if they think thats a bright idea, thats their perogotive. If you think its a bright idea, send your kid there, if not, don't.
to the anon holes...is it really any of your business if a parent chooses to send to ssm? when did this become a moral life blog?...to the other various bashers of of any club..GET A LIFE!..you are an embarassment to the whole state!...people are sick of you..period...get off the site..most of us are here to find out what is going on with the teams..who is good etc...go back to where ever you came from...please....
Well said...I have never seen a bigger bunch of provincial whiners and complainers...based on history, Minnesota could use as many high-level players as are willing to come to the state...if that is by enrolling at SSM or playing at Bangu who cares...the elephant in the room is that these kids from Region 1, 3 or 4 may displace little jonny or jane from an ODP team or some other opportunity...so what, these programs are IDENTIFICATION programs, US Soccer could care less if a player is from California but goes to SSM.
Wake up! Nobody cares if MN ODP team beat WI ODP team. Look at the results over the last 5 years at USYS National Championships, ODP events etc...Region 2 is typically at the bottom of the list as far as results (with some notable exceptions). People of Minnesota please embrace anybody and everybody who would find their way to your beautiful state to play the beautiful game!!!!
agree completely with you about letting kids play. disagree about caring about your kids - have you seen the state of our youth in the news these days. You cannot care about your kids too much!!!
yes I have - that is why caring and discipline starts at home. You have to be able to teach your kid to be their own advocate in tough situations by making sure you teach by example in the proper situations
But keep the helicopter at home and stop the constant hovering in situations that should be left to the kids.
I still see parents of 14-15 year old kids that bring a chair and watch soccer tryouts. I don't understand why?
from someone who does sit at tryouts and practice, it doesnt make alot of sense to drive (given the fuel cost) 30 min. home or more and back another 30 min. back when sitting with a good book can be done instead. PS - it wasnt my helicopter because its still in the shop.
no thank you - i for one, as i only speak for myself, get no greater joy than wathing my child play a sport that I have no past experience in playing. Do I watch every practice/tryout - no - but I see at least 50%. I do not make comments to the coaches or players about soccer but if I have questions about my child I do approach the coach (including play time and position). She/He may have the soccer knowledged but I have my childs overall well being in mind. Thank you and I approve this message.(sorry - tis the season)
and the coach typically has the team's best interest in mind that sometimes conflict with what you may think are your child's overall well being when it comes to soccer.
Good luck when you go sit in on your kid's first job interview or performance review with their overall well being in mind. If you can cut attendance, down to about 25% by then,that will help with his/her character development.
Interesting view, I said child not adult. Will not be attending a job interview Mr. Sarcastic. As far a development goes, if I can use something posted here, this is not brain surgery. If my child wants to play an attacking position instead of the defensive one the coach decides I will ask the question. Seems resonable, why have himm (or her) play somewhere on the field that they are not happy playing.
Children grow up fast. Bad habits are hard to break, be careful!
regarding a playing position - because your child plays a different position better than the position that would make them the happiest. I put the team before the player. Parents seldom do.
You must be talking about much younger players and not the 14-15 age group I reference earlier.
I know very few 15 year old boys or girls that want their mommy hanging around practice, though I do know a few moms that do. I feel sorry for the kids.
If I have to drive to a practice 40minutes one way to sign something or talk to another parent about hotel arrangments for a tournament why shouldn't I watch the practice? If I want to go to practice to see how the team is shaping up, why shouldn't I? I am paying money to have the coach train my kid, don't I have the right to see what kind of a job he is doing? Coaches have to be accountable to someone.
anon 7:02 - I'm w/tomass on this one. Let me guess, your little mia/landon only wants to score goals. I believe you are missing the whole concept of having your child playing for a "team". Maybe you should steer your child towards golf, tennis, even baseball where they can shine on their own. I don't think most people have a problem with parents who watch practice, unfortunately, those are the same parents who approach the coach after most practices with comments and questions that pertain to "how their child is doing and what he/she should be doing" versus "how is the team coming along and progressing".
I see, so its ok for tomass to coach his/her child but not ok for me to watch practice. Try at least to remain consistent. 8:38 your leap is to large here, watching practice is a far cry from what you describe. Here's a paralell for you, try to keep up. Tomass are you listening. My child is told by the honors math teacher to drop the class for honors english. Do I approach the teacher or bow gracefully and slink home after the teacheer slaps my hand for questioning their wisdom.
anon 8:51 - no problem watching practice if all you do is watch practice. Be honest, how many times per week do you have a dialogue with the coach where your child's play is brought up. If it is zero or seldom - then my apologies. If your child is taking honors classes which means he/she is a teenager, then they should be dealing directly with the coaches anyway.
my honors example was just that put in any situation you like and result is virtually the same. I treat the coach with the respect and decorum that any paid empolyee should receive.If my expectations are not being met I say something if they are I sit and read. My child has been trainiing all winter and I think I have spoken to the coach once about injury and once about playing position - we get along great.
Seems to me that the real job of a parent is to raise children that will become productive, morally centered citizens - not to watch their every move.
Sometimes letting them solve their own problems is an important step in that process.
I too love to watch my kid play, but as difficult as it is, I think it is important for them to be playing hard, and practicing hard, because they want to, not because they want to please me. So I give them space.
I see too many kids who look to the sidelines everytime they do something good, looking for the 'rent's approval. Or everytime they do something bad, looking for that "it's OK Johnny" look. You'll never convince me that this is in the best interest of the development of these players.
I have been called worse no big deal, but I was hoping for a little bit better creativity.
But it is a team sport and my child should learn to function within a team environment and learn the top priority is for him/her to make the team and your teammates better. That is what good players do! I can't believe anyone would disagree with that concept. With that said, how is it that I don't have my kids welfare as a first priority? If my child comes to me with concerns about certain actions taken against them by the coach or teammates, I sit down and make sure we talk the situation through and possible solutions and actions to take. I as a parent am not teaching them anything by coming to the rescue when their nose is running or they skin their knees or if they feel picked on.
I can appreciate the younger ages the parents staying within the area. But what does a parent get out of watching a practice? Especially one that has no history of playing the game or coaching the game? If I'm a 14-15 year old kid I would be embarrassed if my mom or dad stayed and watched.
I do not try to coach any of my children after a certain age because I want them to have different coaching experiences as they get older. I do not coach any of my children now. When I did, I was the coach of the team and not my kid. I am more than qualified to coach so how am I being inconsistent? I have rarely stayed around to watch practices and I have never watched a tryout at any level or at any sport in my life. Why? Because there is not a thing I can do to affect what is going happening on the field.
You stated anon 947; "if your expectations are not being met"??? That sounds like a parental need and not a player or team need. That would be the type of attitude I am talking about. The game is not about the parents. If the coach doesn't live up to a team's expectations then do not bring them back the next year.
As far as the school comparison regarding the honors class and education; that is not a team situation. That is a specific individual situation. Nonetheless, I would still have my kid make sure he/she attempted to handle it on their own before I would get involved.
The coach is not accountable to the parents. The coach is accountable to the players, to the team, to the Director of Coaching, and then to the club. I do communicate openly with my parents in a proactive means by weekly training updates and insights, but I truly could care less what parents think or say about me. So if you think a coach needs to be accountable to the parents then I would never be the right coach for you,
After this conversation, it reinforces that the best team a coach could ever train remains a team of orphans.
Tell you what, we have different perspectives on how to raise our kids. Good luck in your efforts because it truly is not an easy job.
As a parent who has watched more than my share of practices, a few things come into play. After driving 35 minutes one way I would rather kill the time watching than find something to do. Also if as a parent I am paying for someone to coach my child I better trust they know far more than I do or else I am throwing money away. Finally by the time I feel safe with my child driving to practice I need to stay away and enjoy my free time.
The problems come when you have a parent who doesn't just sit and watch. My daughter is on a team with a parent that watches his kids' every move and she frequently cries from just a word or look from him. A talented player who's gradually being ruined by a control-freak. And, of course, he doesn't know squat about the game other than what he's watched from the sideline. The worst part is what it does to her as a member of the team. The other girls are never going to get to feel comfortable around her when she's all tense AND she takes all her water breaks getting daddy's latest advice about what she needs to do better. I don't mind parents at my practices as long as they are silent and leave the kids alone, preferably from a distance.
SC Del Sol Soccer Tournament Bangu 90/91 Blue U17 Boys #23 R2 #1 MN #1 vs. Glibert SC Aresenal Premier (AZ) #20 R4 #2 vs. Utah Rush ’91 Nike (UT) #2 UT #3 vs. Kansas Rush Nike (KS)#3 KS
Bangu 91/92 Blue U16 Boys #1 vs. Colorado Fusion Mundial (CO) #14 R4 #2 vs. Chicago Fire Juniors B Red (IL) #24 N #6 R2, May be the Second team though #3 vs. San Juan SC Lightning ’92 Blue (CAN)
Wings SC U14 Boys #1 vs. NYSA Celtic ’94 Green (OK) #23 R3 #2 vs. Neusport FC ’94 Green (NV)#13 R2 #3 vs. Colorado Storm North ’94 Copa (CO)
Las Vegas Mayor’s Cup
Champlin-Dayton Rebels U17 Boys #3 MN #1 vs. San Diego Olympicos (CAS) #2 vs. Real Colorado 90/91 Red (CO) #3 vs. Eastside United Roma (OR)
SC Del Sol Soccer Tournament Bangu 90/91 Blue U17 Boys #23 R2 #1 MN 1-0-3 #1 vs. Glibert SC Aresenal Premier (AZ) #20 R4 T 2-2 #2 vs. Utah Rush ’91 Nike (UT) #2 UT T 1-1 #3 vs. Kansas Rush Nike (KS)#3 KS T 1-1 Consolation Impact United SC Black ’91 (UT) #49 R4 W 3-1
Bangu 91/92 Blue U16 Boys 0-3 #1 vs. Colorado Fusion Mundial (CO) #14 R4 L 0-4 #2 vs. Chicago Fire Juniors B Red (IL) #24 N #6 R2 L 0-4 #3 vs. San Juan SC Lightning ’92 Blue (CAN) L 0-4 Consolation Chicago Blast SC Red (IL)
Wings SC U14 Boys #1 vs. NYSA Celtic ’94 Green (OK) #23 R3 L 1-3 #2 vs. Neusport FC ’94 Green (NV)#13 R4 L 1-2 #3 vs. Colorado Storm North ’94 Copa (CO) L 0-2 Consolation FC United Select (IL) W 4-1
Las Vegas Mayor’s Cup
Champlin-Dayton Rebels U17 Boys #3 MN 3-2 #1 vs. San Diego Olympicos (CAS) L 0-1 #2 vs. Real Colorado 90/91 Red (CO) W 1-0 #3 vs. Eastside United Roma (OR) W 1-0 Semi Finals vs. Pueblo Rangers Lightning (CO) W 4-0 Finals vs. Borussia Moenchengladbach (Germany) L 1-7
#1 vs San Diego Olympicos (CAS) T 0-0 #2 vs. Real Colorado 90/91 Red (CO) W 1-0 #3 vs. Eastside United Roma (OR) W 1-0 Semi Finals Vs. Pueblo Rangers Lightning (CO) W 4-0 Finals vs. Borussia Moenchengladbach (Germany) L 1-7
Final note: Borussia Moenchengladbach is a true academy team for their professional club. They had four national players on their team, and we were the only team to score on them. They also played University of Nevada, Las Vegas, Division 1 yesterday and lost 4-2. Borussia Moenchengladbach was a great team and it was fun to watch them play.
I guess my main point was as much as SSM likes to claim it is modeled after european academy teams, it is not even close. That german team was amazing! We looked like young men playing men. CDA isn't known as being a little team. Most often people complain that were too physical. These guys were physical, fast and smart.
True academy teams are based on talent and not how much money mom & dad are willing to fork over. If the Thunder were to go to this model, I would support it totally. Unforetuneately, it not a short term money making venture. They would be developing there talent and using it on the field.
The ramsey premier U18's won the NSC holiday cup. Scoring some 31 goals in 4 games and only being scored on about 5 times. They had 2 boys from Centennial on the team that played great for them. The centennial forward scored 2 goals and 1 assist in the Ship ( they won 5-2) The Anoka boys played great D-fense as always. They are looking GOOD!
SSM U18 boys will walk through State Cup and not even come close to losing a game. With the talent they've recruited from across the USA and Canada SSM should win nationals. The only thing that can possibly keep all that D1 talent from winning nationals is inept coaching.
Papa John’s Midwest Invitational U17 Boys Champlin Rebels - CHAMPIONS #1 vs. BVSC Stars Juventus 90/91 (KS) W 2-0 #2 vs. Springhigh Select U17 (MO) W 4-1 #3 vs. NEW NSA FC (KS) T 1-1 Semi’s vs. KC Blaze Inferno (KS)W 2-0 #12 KS U16 Final’s vs. Evolution FC EFC Attack (KS) W 3-2 #4 KS U16
This isn't the team that won one game at NSC. I'm not sure what team that is. This is the team that is coached by Pepe Jon. The tournament was ok, not great but ok, and not a tournament that I would recommend to anyone. But as the heading of this thread is MN Boys Winter Tourney News and the orginal poster did not brag just stated the facts.
I'd take a chill pill slamming them. Unless you feel the need to belittle anyone success in order to make yourself feel better.:)
anon 2:57 I know for a fact that they were trying out players for the team that Indoor session, so they never really had a core group of players except for the 2 Centennial boys and a few anoka boys as well. And when they were on the field together they looked rather good.
Bangu 17's tie Springfield (#9 Nation, #3 Region) and Vardar 0-0 (#31 Nation, #10 Region) in opening weekend of Midwest Premier League...decent start for team full of new players and new coach. They have yet to lost to a State Champion in three tries (NE, IA, MO)
Nice results from a Minnesota team (Bangu 17's) so early in the season. Is this the team that has won Minnesota State Cup at their age the last 2-3 years? Who is coaching this team this year?
Holker is the coach; seems to be doing a terrific job with a bunch of players who have not played together til this winter. If they could just average .5 goals a game more...
That team was lucky to get a coach like Holker. I imagine they'll continue to improve and will be a big favorite to win State Cup. What Holker did in a very short time at Augsburg is impressive given how low that program had sunk before his arrival.
Bangu U17B ranking (for what it's worth) has increased due to their results vs. ranked opponents in tourneys this winter season. They cracked the top 100 in the nation.
bangu parent - take a chill pill - I thought rankings were useless and worthless. now it means something when bangu is involved - oh my how little can we get?
It means something when ANY Minnesota team accomplishes something good and I would expect interested parties to share with others on a public blog. I just happen to be interested in this team and I am not going to go out of my way to get info on any other. What team are you interested in?
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 298 of 298if our great coaches on the boys side can claim 'AA' HS as their level of championship, are we afraid of stepping out and face the competition on the boys travel?
how come storlein did not coach bangu U16 boys in disney?
MN land of 10000 losers!
anon 4:31,
Tell us which coach from your club (or any club in Minnesota) can claim a Minnesota State HS championship and also claim playing in the National Youth Championship finals match.
We'll wait for your response...but we won't hold our breath.
I guess the gophers mens BB can claim they have a coach who won national championship too. LOL
There is so much anger and jealousy in here its enough to make me throw up on my shoes. Its no wonder the other blog shut down, and I am guessing this one will be gone in short order as well.
Some of you really need to stop, take a deep breath and think before you type. Not only are you making yourselves look stupid, people from other states are lurking in here and they are laughing their butts off.
I know one coach up here who has a BOYS USYS National Championship ring, and no it wasn't 50 years ago, it was 2001.
Now he coaches mostly girls. Its interesting to hear him talk about that team though, and just how many things had to go absolutely perfectly, how many stars had to be aligned just to even get there, let alone win it. I've heard him say many times "I could work twice as hard with three times as much talent, make all the right decisions, and never get there again." You can't pin Minnesota's lack of success on that level on any one thing, just like when it does happen, it won't happen because of a single coach or player.
I agree with the above poster.
706 and 944
Brilliant posts - thanks
I feel I must comment on the S-SM discussion. I live in California, my son was accepted to S-SM for the current year but we decided to wait because he is only in 8th grade. He is a 93, Region IV player, Cal-North State Team, Super-Y National Camp invitee and his club has just been accepted into the US Developmental Academy.
My point is that even though I am not from MN, we have visited twice and trained with S-SM both times. The staff and facilities are top-notch. MN should be proud that S-SM is in their state. Provincial politics and jealousies aside, people should realize a rising tide lifts all boats. Furthermore, the fact of the matter is that competition is good for all concerned, players as well as coaches.
I believe the proof will be in the pudding when the Shattuck players are placed into top-notch college programs. This has already begun to take place.
We have not decided if our son will attend, however if S-SM were on the West Coast the decision would have already been made. It is not for everyone, but bashing and rumor-mongering is uncalled for and inappropriate. Thanks.
Anon 6:16,
more importantly - is he a good student?
Anon 9:58
Good question...He is a 4.0 in middle-school. The latest commitments from the SSM 18's includes: Harvard, Princeton, Santa Clara, Akron, Notre Dame etc. Pretty impressive list for a new program. Also, the lone senior last year went to Butler. Seems like the academic/soccer program is paying dividends for what most of us feel is the endgame: college.
I guess if college is the endgame why would you send him to SSM? From your soccer description he is well on his way to having interest from lots of schools and if he is a good student they will be good academically also. I would guess the SoCal clubs send a lot of good players to good colleges every year themselves.
In 2007 MN had players commit to schools such as Boston U., Creighton, DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Miami OH, Northwestern, Providence etc. I would expect those numbers to increase greatly in the next few years. Those numbers would be dwarfed by California. If college is the "endgame" there is no need to attend Shattuck.
dad considering SSM - 7:06 hits it right on the head. I know all those kids at SSM going to all those schools, and I have news for you, they'd be on their way to those places even without SSM. If the endgame is college SSM is just not necessary, save your money. Now, for some of those kids who have bigger things in mind, possibly future pros, then I see more of the rationale as to why you'd go to a residential academy. I don't agree with it but I understand it. This is why SSMs boys make a little sense to me, and the girls make none. The girls have practically no reason at all to go there, unless you believe their "academics and athletics all in the same place pitch." Perhaps a nice perk, but not worth 30g in my opinion.
For me it comes down to one thing, forget the soccer, the academics, forget it all - I PERSONALLY don't think people should pay someone else to raise their kid. I disagree with the entire boarding school principle. Getting away from home? Thats what college is for. Enjoy having your kid around for the next four years, you can air mail him to a school accross the country later, there's plenty of time for that.
personally, thinking of what college to attend while in 8th grade and before attending high school seems a bit backward. When you look too far into the future you oftentimes lose sight of the present......
I can appreciate all of the comments vis-a-vis college and SSM. A huge part of our decision is whether it is appropriate for our son to leave home when he is 15 years old. We haven't made that decision. There are arguments on both sides of the equation. It is true that SSM is not the only route for college-bound soccer players.
Nobody ever talks about the intrinsic experience of attending a school like SSM. Maybe it is a unique, rewarding experience for certain kids. I just don't understand the few people who are so vocal against the program.
It seems like the evolution of soccer parents is a bit behind in Minnesota. My experience on the West Coast is a little different. By the time our kids, at least the better players, have reached U-16 or so, there seems to be less emphasis on winning meaningless tournaments and being ranked on meaningless websites. I just feel that with the USSF Academy, PSA, Shattuck and forward-looking clubs the landscape is changing. My .02 cents.
I guess the question is whether MN being a bit behind in the "evolution of soccer parents" is a good or bad thing. I would also tend to disagree with your comment that there seems to be less emphasis on winning meaningless tournaments at U16 and above on the west coast. Take a peak at gotsoccer.com for RIV and I see a whole lot of tournaments being played. As an FYI, more than one MN club applied for USSF Academy status but were denied (one reason is our geographic isolation and travel).
Ask the legions of families that have pulled their kids out of SSM after sending them, then you'll get a BROADER basis on which to make your decision, incstead of just drinking all the cool aid they give you in their little house in the parking lot.
I supposed "legions" is a term only applicable to the girls side (check their turnover numbers and you'll be appauled) but there have been a few boys who've jumped ship as well.
Look at both sides, then make a holistic choice. Maybe it IS the best thing for your kid.
Anon 12:16
About two years ago our family was wrestling with the same decision. I can honestly say, we are very happy not to have sent our son to SSM. I don't think he'd be any better of a soccer player or a person than he is now. In fact I think he's a better person, but hey I'm his parent and I know he walks on water (LOL). The boys who are going and playing D1 soccer, were going to those places anyway. SSM has benefit far more from them, then they have from SSM.
One final note, that not many of us wish to talk about. Most kids in this age group discover Drugs, Drinking and Sex. Even at SSM. When it does happen, how involved do you want to be in what is happening in his life at that time. I know SSM likes to make you think the kids are closely watch and will never have the opportunity. But I'll tell you, it happens, is happening and will happen. Sad as it may seem it is a part of growing up.
Quick question...
In order to get academy-like soccer training here in the US Why do players have to wait until they're 15/16 years old and pay 30,000 to attend a boarding school? How long until US soccer, MLS, or the Thunder step up and give kids some decent options starting at an early age. Go and watch a Division 1 college soccer game and you will see how the technical ability is sorely lacking. The current system we have in this country is not the right way to build a supposed "rising power" in world soccer.
Anon 3:45,
It all comes down to money.
Which of the professional teams in USA can afford to set up an Academy like they have in Europe?
They can barely make payroll. The Thunder has struggled financially despite paying their players peanuts.
If our pro teams filled the stadiums like they do in Europe then we might have achance to see the pro teams setting up academies for the youth players.
Until then don't hold your breath.
Anon 8:54 you are a lying sack... your son did not go to Shattuck, if he did he would help you with your god-awful grammer!
I believe it's grammar if I'm not mistaken. LOL,
live in a glass house do you?
haha, not to mention that "8:54" never says his son went to Shattuck, in fact specifically points out that he DIDN'T. So far 10:25 is the early candidate for worst post of the year, 2008
Interesting stuff:
http://micssoccerblog.blogspot.com/
Wow. My partner works as a soccer coach in Minnesota and always has such a hard time dealing with parents getting downright evil with one another over club rivalries. I came on this site to see what folks are saying about his team. But I find that all you people do is try to prove your club is the best by insulting the others. Now I see my partner was't stretching the truth. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Correcting someone's grammar to prove they're a teenager? Did it ever occur to you that if there's a teenager on this blog, you should demonstrate respect and civility that reaches beyond petty prods and sarcastic put-downs? And to do that to a child is incredible.
A word of caution: try to imagine saying these things to these people in person, face to face, before you type in and send it out online.
I blame myself for even coming on this site to learn more about my partner's work. You all have ruined my day. Don't worry; it won't happen again.
I am also not a native Minnesotan. I can tell you that the passive-agressive "MN nice" is fairly accurate description of the culture here. Nice to your face, but really petty and talk about you behind your back. I think the same attitudes lead to the agressive driving that occurs here as well. I laugh when I hear the local media use the "MN nice" term as a term of endearment.
I am not sure how one can make such a broad stroke opinion about boarding schools...I guess the same can be said about ivies and such..really a true point of ignorance..if you don't think ssm makes better soccer players, then you really are a non soccer parent..the fact is, every successful country has academy programs that start when..hold your breath...these kids are six...to bash ssm because it's one of the few resources in this country that tries to emulate what other countries have done is not only a slam at these other countries, but a personal attack on those who CHOOSE to send there kid's there...when I read post from these so called parents who say ssm really wanted there kid's but didn't go and then go slam ssm it really makes you wonder the level of soccer knowledge on this blog...which by the way has become the amusement for youth soccer blogs.....nice job!
So true anon 12:10...Why do people in Minnesota care so much about State Cup? I don't get it. SSM is ahead of the curve.
anon 12:37..because it's there only path to soccer glory...they just don't get it.....
anon 12:37,
Ahead of what curve? The $35K annually boarding school curve? Who is their competition?
Totally agree about the MN nice concept. That is why I'm trying to break the mold. Yes, what I say on the blog here, I would say to your face in person.
I don't understand why more people do not want to stand behind what they think when they are willing to state it in writing, in public. It does make you think they would say something different to your face.
Newspaper editorial sections don't publish views without the person willing to state who they are and where they reside (in general).
SSM does not emulate what other countries to. They say they do, they don't. As someone who has seen European academies FIRST HAND and also is very familiar with SSM, I can tell you its not the same thing. Primary difference? European academies don't take the kids away from home, with very few exceptions. In fact even those few exceptions only occur at U17 or older.
This is not an anti-ssm post, I find what they are doing interesting. However, I'm just sick of hearing champions of SSM talk about how they are doing what Europe does. They aren't. Good, bad, whatever, it needs to be called what it is, something different.
anon130 - good point in your post. Remember though, how many academies exist, let's say, just in England? Their numbers allow many to stay within their communities. It is their sport
The world sport has a longer, richer development culture in Europe than we could ever hope for here.
Here soccer is just one of many options available to kids. Of course we try to Americanize the sport instead of realizing it is a world sport
But on the training pitch wouldn't you say they are doing close to the same thing? That's what counts.
they aren't doing anything revolutionary on the pitch that I haven't seen from other clubs - its not like SSM has a set of special magic european drills nobody else in the soccer world knows about, so no.
The amount they do it isn't even the same, they champion their 6-7 days a week approach, when I was at an academy on Holland they trained three times a week.
so again, make your own judgements on it, but don't call it "what everyone else is doing around the world." IT JUST ISN'T.
good point - there are some serious differences. Specific example you say? They will lift on the same day they train, go from the weight room to the field or vise versa, with 15 year olds. I think you'd be hard pressed to find an academy in Europe, or here for that matter, that does this. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks this is a good idea outside the SSM environment, but its THEIR environment and if they think thats a bright idea, thats their perogotive. If you think its a bright idea, send your kid there, if not, don't.
Bangu U17 boys going to Jefferson Cup (VA) in March this year.
odds are great that jefferson cup will be rained out/snowed out again bring ur raincoats.
With the CASL Results can come one explain to me who that St.Croix team is and how did they do so good?
anom.1.03
Let your team do the talking.
to the anon holes...is it really any of your business if a parent chooses to send to ssm? when did this become a moral life blog?...to the other various bashers of of any club..GET A LIFE!..you are an embarassment to the whole state!...people are sick of you..period...get off the site..most of us are here to find out what is going on with the teams..who is good etc...go back to where ever you came from...please....
anon 8:37
Well said...I have never seen a bigger bunch of provincial whiners and complainers...based on history, Minnesota could use as many high-level players as are willing to come to the state...if that is by enrolling at SSM or playing at Bangu who cares...the elephant in the room is that these kids from Region 1, 3 or 4 may displace little jonny or jane from an ODP team or some other opportunity...so what, these programs are IDENTIFICATION programs, US Soccer could care less if a player is from California but goes to SSM.
Wake up! Nobody cares if MN ODP team beat WI ODP team. Look at the results over the last 5 years at USYS National Championships, ODP events etc...Region 2 is typically at the bottom of the list as far as results (with some notable exceptions). People of Minnesota please embrace anybody and everybody who would find their way to your beautiful state to play the beautiful game!!!!
anon 1111 - the problem comes from the parents caring too much. That is where the lunacy epicenter is located
anon 8:37, 11:11 & tomass
agree completely with you about letting kids play.
disagree about caring about your kids - have you seen the state of our youth in the news these days. You cannot care about your kids too much!!!
yes I have - that is why caring and discipline starts at home. You have to be able to teach your kid to be their own advocate in tough situations by making sure you teach by example in the proper situations
But keep the helicopter at home and stop the constant hovering in situations that should be left to the kids.
I still see parents of 14-15 year old kids that bring a chair and watch soccer tryouts. I don't understand why?
tomass,
from someone who does sit at tryouts and practice, it doesnt make alot of sense to drive (given the fuel cost) 30 min. home or more and back another 30 min. back when sitting with a good book can be done instead.
PS - it wasnt my helicopter because its still in the shop.
so your reading a book instead of watching. I'm talking about parents who watch practice or tryouts
I understand the time thing, but go for a walk, read a book, do something other than watch a tryout or practice.
tomass,
no thank you - i for one, as i only speak for myself, get no greater joy than wathing my child play a sport that I have no past experience in playing. Do I watch every practice/tryout - no - but I see at least 50%. I do not make comments to the coaches or players about soccer but if I have questions about my child I do approach the coach (including play time and position). She/He may have the soccer knowledged but I have my childs overall well being in mind.
Thank you and I approve this message.(sorry - tis the season)
thats what games are for.
and the coach typically has the team's best interest in mind that sometimes conflict with what you may think are your child's overall well being when it comes to soccer.
Good luck when you go sit in on your kid's first job interview or performance review with their overall well being in mind. If you can cut attendance, down to about 25% by then,that will help with his/her character development.
Interesting view, I said child not adult. Will not be attending a job interview Mr. Sarcastic. As far a development goes, if I can use something posted here, this is not brain surgery. If my child wants to play an attacking position instead of the defensive one the coach decides I will ask the question. Seems resonable, why have himm (or her) play somewhere on the field that they are not happy playing.
anon 428
Children grow up fast. Bad habits are hard to break, be careful!
regarding a playing position - because your child plays a different position better than the position that would make them the happiest. I put the team before the player. Parents seldom do.
You must be talking about much younger players and not the 14-15 age group I reference earlier.
I know very few 15 year old boys or girls that want their mommy hanging around practice, though I do know a few moms that do. I feel sorry for the kids.
If I have to drive to a practice 40minutes one way to sign something or talk to another parent about hotel arrangments for a tournament why shouldn't I watch the practice? If I want to go to practice to see how the team is shaping up, why shouldn't I? I am paying money to have the coach train my kid, don't I have the right to see what kind of a job he is doing? Coaches have to be accountable to someone.
well said max
anon 7:02 - I'm w/tomass on this one. Let me guess, your little mia/landon only wants to score goals. I believe you are missing the whole concept of having your child playing for a "team". Maybe you should steer your child towards golf, tennis, even baseball where they can shine on their own. I don't think most people have a problem with parents who watch practice, unfortunately, those are the same parents who approach the coach after most practices with comments and questions that pertain to "how their child is doing and what he/she should be doing" versus "how is the team coming along and progressing".
I see, so its ok for tomass to coach his/her child but not ok for me to watch practice. Try at least to remain consistent.
8:38 your leap is to large here, watching practice is a far cry from what you describe. Here's a paralell for you, try to keep up. Tomass are you listening.
My child is told by the honors math teacher to drop the class for honors english. Do I approach the teacher or bow gracefully and slink home after the teacheer slaps my hand for questioning their wisdom.
anon 8:51 - no problem watching practice if all you do is watch practice. Be honest, how many times per week do you have a dialogue with the coach where your child's play is brought up. If it is zero or seldom - then my apologies. If your child is taking honors classes which means he/she is a teenager, then they should be dealing directly with the coaches anyway.
my honors example was just that put in any situation you like and result is virtually the same. I treat the coach with the respect and decorum that any paid empolyee should receive.If my expectations are not being met I say something if they are I sit and read.
My child has been trainiing all winter and I think I have spoken to the coach once about injury and once about playing position - we get along great.
my apologies are in order.
Seems to me that the real job of a parent is to raise children that will become productive, morally centered citizens - not to watch their every move.
Sometimes letting them solve their own problems is an important step in that process.
I too love to watch my kid play, but as difficult as it is, I think it is important for them to be playing hard, and practicing hard, because they want to, not because they want to please me. So I give them space.
I see too many kids who look to the sidelines everytime they do something good, looking for the 'rent's approval. Or everytime they do something bad, looking for that "it's OK Johnny" look. You'll never convince me that this is in the best interest of the development of these players.
I have been called worse no big deal, but I was hoping for a little bit better creativity.
But it is a team sport and my child should learn to function within a team environment and learn the top priority is for him/her to make the team and your teammates better. That is what good players do! I can't believe anyone would disagree with that concept. With that said, how is it that I don't have my kids welfare as a first priority? If my child comes to me with concerns about certain actions taken against them by the coach or teammates, I sit down and make sure we talk the situation through and possible solutions and actions to take. I as a parent am not teaching them anything by coming to the rescue when their nose is running or they skin their knees or if they feel picked on.
I can appreciate the younger ages the parents staying within the area. But what does a parent get out of watching a practice? Especially one that has no history of playing the game or coaching the game? If I'm a 14-15 year old kid I would be embarrassed if my mom or dad stayed and watched.
I do not try to coach any of my children after a certain age because I want them to have different coaching experiences as they get older. I do not coach any of my children now. When I did, I was the coach of the team and not my kid. I am more than qualified to coach so how am I being inconsistent? I have rarely stayed around to watch practices and I have never watched a tryout at any level or at any sport in my life. Why? Because there is not a thing I can do to affect what is going happening on the field.
You stated anon 947; "if your expectations are not being met"??? That sounds like a parental need and not a player or team need. That would be the type of attitude I am talking about. The game is not about the parents. If the coach doesn't live up to a team's expectations then do not bring them back the next year.
As far as the school comparison regarding the honors class and education; that is not a team situation. That is a specific individual situation. Nonetheless, I would still have my kid make sure he/she attempted to handle it on their own before I would get involved.
The coach is not accountable to the parents. The coach is accountable to the players, to the team, to the Director of Coaching, and then to the club. I do communicate openly with my parents in a proactive means by weekly training updates and insights, but I truly could care less what parents think or say about me.
So if you think a coach needs to be accountable to the parents then I would never be the right coach for you,
After this conversation, it reinforces that the best team a coach could ever train remains a team of orphans.
Tell you what, we have different perspectives on how to raise our kids. Good luck in your efforts because it truly is not an easy job.
agreed - not an easy job
As a parent who has watched more than my share of practices, a few things come into play. After driving 35 minutes one way I would rather kill the time watching than find something to do. Also if as a parent I am paying for someone to coach my child I better trust they know far more than I do or else I am throwing money away. Finally by the time I feel safe with my child driving to practice I need to stay away and enjoy my free time.
The problems come when you have a parent who doesn't just sit and watch. My daughter is on a team with a parent that watches his kids' every move and she frequently cries from just a word or look from him. A talented player who's gradually being ruined by a control-freak. And, of course, he doesn't know squat about the game other than what he's watched from the sideline. The worst part is what it does to her as a member of the team. The other girls are never going to get to feel comfortable around her when she's all tense AND she takes all her water breaks getting daddy's latest advice about what she needs to do better.
I don't mind parents at my practices as long as they are silent and leave the kids alone, preferably from a distance.
SC Del Sol Soccer Tournament
Bangu 90/91 Blue U17 Boys #23 R2 #1 MN
#1 vs. Glibert SC Aresenal Premier (AZ) #20 R4
#2 vs. Utah Rush ’91 Nike (UT) #2 UT
#3 vs. Kansas Rush Nike (KS)#3 KS
Bangu 91/92 Blue U16 Boys
#1 vs. Colorado Fusion Mundial (CO) #14 R4
#2 vs. Chicago Fire Juniors B Red (IL) #24 N #6 R2, May be the Second team though
#3 vs. San Juan SC Lightning ’92 Blue (CAN)
Wings SC U14 Boys
#1 vs. NYSA Celtic ’94 Green (OK) #23 R3
#2 vs. Neusport FC ’94 Green (NV)#13 R2
#3 vs. Colorado Storm North ’94 Copa (CO)
Las Vegas Mayor’s Cup
Champlin-Dayton Rebels U17 Boys #3 MN
#1 vs. San Diego Olympicos (CAS)
#2 vs. Real Colorado 90/91 Red (CO)
#3 vs. Eastside United Roma (OR)
The coach is accountable to whoever is paying the bills.
Bangu U17 boys tied all games at Presidents Day tournament in Phoenix. Play consolation today.
SC Del Sol Soccer Tournament
Bangu 90/91 Blue U17 Boys #23 R2 #1 MN 1-0-3
#1 vs. Glibert SC Aresenal Premier (AZ) #20 R4 T 2-2
#2 vs. Utah Rush ’91 Nike (UT) #2 UT T 1-1
#3 vs. Kansas Rush Nike (KS)#3 KS T 1-1
Consolation Impact United SC Black ’91 (UT) #49 R4 W 3-1
Bangu 91/92 Blue U16 Boys 0-3
#1 vs. Colorado Fusion Mundial (CO) #14 R4 L 0-4
#2 vs. Chicago Fire Juniors B Red (IL) #24 N #6 R2 L 0-4
#3 vs. San Juan SC Lightning ’92 Blue (CAN) L 0-4
Consolation Chicago Blast SC Red (IL)
Wings SC U14 Boys
#1 vs. NYSA Celtic ’94 Green (OK) #23 R3 L 1-3
#2 vs. Neusport FC ’94 Green (NV)#13 R4 L 1-2
#3 vs. Colorado Storm North ’94 Copa (CO) L 0-2
Consolation FC United Select (IL) W 4-1
Las Vegas Mayor’s Cup
Champlin-Dayton Rebels U17 Boys #3 MN 3-2
#1 vs. San Diego Olympicos (CAS) L 0-1
#2 vs. Real Colorado 90/91 Red (CO) W 1-0
#3 vs. Eastside United Roma (OR) W 1-0
Semi Finals vs. Pueblo Rangers Lightning (CO) W 4-0
Finals vs. Borussia Moenchengladbach (Germany) L 1-7
Umm try again for Champlin Dayton Rebels
#1 vs San Diego Olympicos (CAS) T 0-0
#2 vs. Real Colorado 90/91 Red (CO) W 1-0
#3 vs. Eastside United Roma (OR) W 1-0
Semi Finals Vs. Pueblo Rangers Lightning (CO) W 4-0
Finals vs. Borussia Moenchengladbach (Germany) L 1-7
Final note: Borussia Moenchengladbach is a true academy team for their professional club. They had four national players on their team, and we were the only team to score on them. They also played University of Nevada, Las Vegas, Division 1 yesterday and lost 4-2. Borussia Moenchengladbach was a great team and it was fun to watch them play.
At least someone posted the results. :)
Yeah, it was nice to see the post, Thank you.
I guess my main point was as much as SSM likes to claim it is modeled after european academy teams, it is not even close. That german team was amazing! We looked like young men playing men. CDA isn't known as being a little team. Most often people complain that were too physical. These guys were physical, fast and smart.
True academy teams are based on talent and not how much money mom & dad are willing to fork over. If the Thunder were to go to this model, I would support it totally. Unforetuneately, it not a short term money making venture. They would be developing there talent and using it on the field.
"Borussia Moenchengladbach is a true academy team for their professional club."
Yeah, and they have been around since 1900 according to Wikipedia. SSM soccer is in year three.
Not true according to the blog SSM was playing soccer in the 60's. :)
5:52, that was their old HS soccer team that played in MSHSL. The academy is in year three.
The ramsey premier U18's won the NSC holiday cup. Scoring some 31 goals in 4 games and only being scored on about 5 times. They had 2 boys from Centennial on the team that played great for them. The centennial forward scored 2 goals and 1 assist in the Ship ( they won 5-2) The Anoka boys played great D-fense as always. They are looking GOOD!
SSM U18 boys will walk through State Cup and not even come close to losing a game.
With the talent they've recruited from across the USA and Canada SSM should win nationals.
The only thing that can possibly keep all that D1 talent from winning nationals is inept coaching.
Papa John’s Midwest Invitational
U17 Boys
Champlin Rebels - CHAMPIONS
#1 vs. BVSC Stars Juventus 90/91 (KS) W 2-0
#2 vs. Springhigh Select U17 (MO) W 4-1
#3 vs. NEW NSA FC (KS) T 1-1
Semi’s vs. KC Blaze Inferno (KS)W 2-0 #12 KS U16
Final’s vs. Evolution FC EFC Attack (KS) W 3-2 #4 KS U16
Congrats CDA. Should be a great state cup at U17 with 3 very strong teams.
Beat up on them U16 Kansas teams, hoorah.
Anon 6:24
Is this the same team that won ONE game in the NSC indoor league?
This isn't the team that won one game at NSC. I'm not sure what team that is. This is the team that is coached by Pepe Jon. The tournament was ok, not great but ok, and not a tournament that I would recommend to anyone. But as the heading of this thread is MN Boys Winter Tourney News and the orginal poster did not brag just stated the facts.
I'd take a chill pill slamming them. Unless you feel the need to belittle anyone success in order to make yourself feel better.:)
anon 2:26 - I was talking about Ramsey U18s premier. Maybe you should take a chill pill - it may help you read better!
anon 2:57
I know for a fact that they were trying out players for the team that Indoor session, so they never really had a core group of players except for the 2 Centennial boys and a few anoka boys as well. And when they were on the field together they looked rather good.
Midwest League starts this weekend with Bangu U17s in Missouri - vs. Vardar and Springfield...tough draw to start things off.
Bangu 17's tie Springfield (#9 Nation, #3 Region) and Vardar 0-0 (#31 Nation, #10 Region) in opening weekend of Midwest Premier League...decent start for team full of new players and new coach. They have yet to lost to a State Champion in three tries (NE, IA, MO)
Nice results from a Minnesota team (Bangu 17's) so early in the season.
Is this the team that has won Minnesota State Cup at their age the last 2-3 years?
Who is coaching this team this year?
Holker is the coach; seems to be doing a terrific job with a bunch of players who have not played together til this winter. If they could just average .5 goals a game more...
That team was lucky to get a coach like Holker.
I imagine they'll continue to improve and will be a big favorite to win State Cup.
What Holker did in a very short time at Augsburg is impressive given how low that program had sunk before his arrival.
http://web.augsburg.edu/athletics/FSC2.mov
Found this on Augsburg's web - pretty cool
I see that Westside FC has a u16 boys team and Lakeville has a u17 boys team at the LV Showcase this week.
Bangu U17B ranking (for what it's worth) has increased due to their results vs. ranked opponents in tourneys this winter season. They cracked the top 100 in the nation.
bangu parent - take a chill pill - I thought rankings were useless and worthless. now it means something when bangu is involved - oh my how little can we get?
It means something when ANY Minnesota team accomplishes something good and I would expect interested parties to share with others on a public blog. I just happen to be interested in this team and I am not going to go out of my way to get info on any other. What team are you interested in?
Bangu U15 Boys just beat Richmond Kickers Elite (#4 ranked in Virginia) by a score of 1-0 down at Jefferson Cup.
Rankings could be used, but certainly not an end all, to benchmark where a club and state is vs others.
Bangu U17 Boys won Jefferson Cup today winning final by 3-0 score.
Any new news for ANY boys teams in out of state tournamements? Seems like all we hear about is ASE and Bangu. Come on, brag up your teams results.
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