It's official. Eagan winners for U19 Boys, Bangu Tsunami Sota winners for U19 Girls. Both 2-0 winners over their opponents.
Bangu with 8 titles. With no other club winning more than one, and the Wings and Eden Prairie winning no titles, it would be tough to argue club supremacy.
Bangu Tsunami FC - B14, B16, B18, G13, G14, G16, G17, G19
Minneapolis United - B13
Plymouth Soccer - B15
Valley United - B17
Eagan - B19
Woodbury SC - G15
St. Croix SC - G18
My picks for teams with the best chances to advance out of group play at Regionals are Bangu 19 Girls, PSA 15 Boys, Bangu 17 Girls, Valley 17 Boys, Bangu 18 Boys, Bangu 16 Girls, and Minneapolis United 13 Boys. Of course, it will all depend on the draw.
Congratulations to all the teams and players that participated in this year's MN State Cup.
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Wings U18 Boys beat Mahtomedi 3-0 today.
On the next field over Bangu U18 Boys beat the Blackhawks 6-0.
Yes Bangu handed it to us today. We were not ready to play and they played well. Biggest disappointment though was when I was walking to the parking lot with my son. I asked him the score of Wings game and he said he thought it was 2-0. Immediately a Wings parent about 15 feet in front of us turned around and snapped, with anger, "3-0"...like we had done something to them...pitiful.
The Bangu U18's had a few different players who I didn't recognize from last year, they looked very good.
I overheard someone saying they were from Rochester?
The black kid up top for Bangu was one of them and he has exceptional quickness and looks to be quite a finisher.
Is this Bangu team playing in MWL this spring? They looked quite sharp today.
does anyone know the results of the U13 girls play-in game
Weekend State Cup scores are now posted on the MYSA web site.
Blaine beat Tonka 1-0 in the U13 girls play in game.
bhkdad,
I would cut the Wings U18 parent a little slack.
They struggled through MWRL not winning a match and only scoring 1 goal versus the opponents 19 goals.
So when they finally win their 1st game of the season after all those losses they certainly want credit for all the goals they scored.
I'm sure it was just frustration that had built up over the past several weeks.
Yeah, Wings do need slack, they have had between 10-11 players traveling for ALL MWL games. It must be nice for them to have 14+ turn up!!!
I think the last 2 posts from Wings 18 parents reinforces the reputation of the parent group as self-deserving, self-important, self-pity, whiners. I think anyone who has watched them play knows that they have raised their kids in their own image. I have seen this same attitude in this team, coach and parent group over the years playing them at least 2 times per year. Surely their sons deserve more...I say everyone pitches in a few buck to help them out ;)
bhkdad - We can tell Blackhawk parents are pure class based on your postings. I am sure the kids on your team will be proud when they read this thread.
anon 742 - at least he has some bullocks to state he is a blackhawk parent
Anyone see the U13 boys games? Did they get them all in.....
OK we get it. A few parents don't like each other. Please keep it civil. Thank you.
How will the semi-finals be seeded and who determines the seeding? The "new" retroactive rule opens up a can of worms. This could get very messy.
the bangu 18 team seems very focused. I caught the first half and they seemed to play with passion. I watched the wings on the next field over and when they scored early in the 2nd half, I hardly heard anyone celebrate. this bangu team appears to be dangerous and is primed to knock the wings off their throne
Any scores from tonights games?
U17 group of death:
Wings 2 Woobury 0
Valley 0 Keliix 0
I'm pulling for the Keliix in the group of death.
I like their keepers' ability a lot
You are correct Tomass. Tough group. I suppose it happened with EP being the suprise winner last year. Keliix does have an excellent keeper, but I still though Valley would beat them. Should be a good age group to watch.
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Why so many blowouts - 6-0 and 4-0? Is this typical?
wcm - because there is little depth of soccer in this state, and many teams enter state cup knowing they have absolutely no chance of winning a game.
I would disagree that there is "no depth". The overall level of MN has risen over the past 6 or 8 years. Yes, we still have a ways to go. I think MN has depth commiserate with our population. MN usually has 2-3 strong teams at each age group (versus IL's 7-10 and 3+ times our population). Additionally, this is an open format tournament. Which means C2, C1, PR and MRL teams all play in the same group. Most other tournaments (local and out of state) have flights to group teams. Even with flights, there are sometimes blowouts. Last reason might be with the early season timeframe, some teams have been training all winter and others just get out for a half dozen training sessions.
It's great that many teams enter the cup. When else will they get a chance to play top teams? C1 teams get to play premier teams and premier teams get to play MRL teams. Occasionally a C1 team or a 5 or 6 team from the premier league does win the tournament.
bangu 18's had another solid performance today. they looked to handle maplebrook well and i can see them knocking off wings in the championship..i notice a few new players every game...anyone know where they are getting all these new players?
I saw the 1st half of the Bangu U18's yesterday and they scored about 5 minutes into the match and were controlling play against a good Maplebrook team.
They got another goal about 20 minutes into the half.
Seeing as they won 3-0 I expect the flow of the game didn't change much in 2nd half.
I looked at the brackets and they haven't allowed a goal yet in State Cup play.
They are definitely improved over last year and will be hard to beat.
Nice to see Rosenthal play again. Did he play State Cup last year or was he already out? Also, the 2 players from Rochester are top notch. Glad to see the team doing well, should be an exciting final with a lot of good soccer.
If I recall, Rosenthal missed the semi final and final last year. I saw the 2nd half of the BNG/MPB game and the 1st half of the WNG/WYZ 18s. The Wings dominated play against Wayzata, but had some trouble finishing. They are a talented and deep team. I wouldn't award the championship to Bangu just yet as it should be a great game. Could be the best game at the state cup this year. I talked with the BNG coach yesterday and he was pleased with their play against MPB. He has a number of new players from Rochester and another from somewhere else. He said he lost 3 starters from last year (injury and uncommited players.) I asked about new players and goal production and this is my recollection (I know I am butchering the names) uninjured Gibbons 4, Baio 3, Pridoe 1, Zietman 1, Rosenthal 1 and someone else has 1.
Bangu 13 game against mpls united was a really good game in the first half. The second half was a diffrent story. Bangu looked like a jeckle and hyde team. Not sure how they will do in the semis.
It's hard for a team to keep it's focus when they are dominating another team.
My guess is the coach used some of the players in 2nd half that may not see the field in semi's of final.
Should be a good match up between Bangu and St Croix at the U13 age group. My money is still on MU to take it.
From roadtoregionals.com:
"Looking back at it now, I always thought I was better than the players who played ahead of me...I remember back in 1996, I was probably leading the team in minutes played that year...I had a lot of young girls teams that I had been working with that summer coming out to see me play...Anyway, as we’re getting ready for the game in the locker room, Buzz walks over to me and tells me that he’s going to start Russell Gee at sweeper instead of me. Russell Gee!
So there I sat, right on the bench with nearly 11,000 fans packed into the National Sports Center in Blaine to see me... Throughout the first half, a number of chants of “We want Abboud!” rose up from directly behind out bench, instigated by about 20 girls from Lakeville who I had been working with all summer long. Was Buzz deaf? Couldn’t he hear that my fans wanted me?!?! Give them what they want, man! Midway through the first half, just as another round of the “We want Abboud!” chants was just beginning, Buzz looked down the bench and called my name. Finally! I thought. He’s seen the light! And he’s seen Cobi blow by Russell at sweeper about 6 times. I strutted down the line in front of the bench, casting my gaze at all the luckless other substitutes who may never see the field that day, and giving a cool wave to my loyal “We want Abboud!” fans as their cheers grew louder and more intense when I stood up, seemly ready to enter the game and save the Thunder.
I reached Buzz and he stood to put an arm around my shoulder, about to impart some last words of wisdom about how I was supposed to go in and surly put an end to the Cobi Jones dominance of our back line. The “We want Abboud!” cheers had grown to such frenzy that Galaxy and Thunder players alike on the field were snatching glances into the bleachers to see what was all the commotion was about. “WE WANT ABBOUD! WE WANT ABBOUD!”
Buzz, eyes still focused and intent on the game, calmly asked "Mark, can you please go up into the stands and see what they want? Nice."
Informal poll: Are you more inclined to laugh or get really sick to your stomach?
sooooo what did they want Mark?
Was the view any better than from the bench? I would have went, gotten a dog and soda, came back to Buzz and let him know that they were upset at being overcharged for such poor defending, but that's just me
concern: I am pretty sure many have figured that out already.
To Concerned: You crossed the line. There is nothing wrong with expressing your opinion about a coach’s antics (picture formation) or your opinion about demeanor (oversized ego or insecurity). I invite you to repost the portion of your comment without the language that some could interpret as a pending crime. In case you didn't know, if a court were to order records of who posted what, it would be possible to trace a comment back to the computer where it originated (see MYSA's recent law suit).
Pending crime? Oh man. I was not going down that route at all. I do appreciate the fact you removed it if you felt it would come across maliciously. That was not the intent and certainly writing and spoken thoughts do not some across the same without the non-verbal portion of the communication.
I'll try it one last time with the hope of sparking an interesting social discussion and not an attack on anyone. Those who are hyper-defensive or looking to causing trouble, do not read.
This is just a formation of thoughts and my opinion, certainly not accusing anyone of anything. Read again: I am not accusing anyone of anything or anything close to it. If you want to attach that meaning to it, that is your deal. The website is out there, so I assume it is fair game for interpretation and would actually make an interesting civil discussion.
This is merely my own interpretation of topics on postings noted above.
1.) There seems to be some underlying issues of a need for acceptance. No other coaches (especially male coaches) are posting pictures of young female athletes with "We love (insert name here)" spelled out in T-shirts and making tangent comments about all the girls being in the stands to watch him play. The meet the publisher part is loaded with issues in need for popularity, acceptance, etc...
2.) What would be said on these blogs if other coaches/DOCs were posting this same sort of thing? (EP? Woodbury? Wings? TC Fire?) The publisher is quite good in marketing and the audience targeted. It works great for this coach, kudos to the coach! I don't think any other coach could get away with it without being openly ridiculed.
3.) I am not so sure this would all go over as well if the coach was on the boys side. I am not aware that the coach is on the boys-side as well. You never hear anything about it.
This makes for a potential interesting sociological debate, but I doubt anyone wants to get beyond trash talking, pointing fingers, and turning neutral observations/statements into accusations.
These are only thoughts/opinion from a neutral party.
The vast majority of coaches in MN have other careers to deal with, so they probably don't have the time to develop and/or manage a site like that.
Many portions of this site are still undeveloped, but some of the headings would appear to be an attempt to reignite some of the more passionate and controversial issues "out there."
To each their own...
concerned -- a little context and historical perspective that may be helpful. I was one of the parents of the kids who adored Mark during those days. He worked tirelessly with the young players, running training sessions in the Richfield dome at 6AM, then showing up for a team training session at 9. He was incredibly successful at supporting the players, and a lot of them just adored him. I never sensed at all that he was seeking adulation, although he clearly enjoyed a role as someone who brought TONS of kids to Thunder games and frankly, made a huge difference to the relationship between the Thunder and youth teams. I had lots and lots of opportunities to observe Mark everywhere from training sessions to his "pre ODP" pre-academy select training to ODP tryouts to interaction with the kids at Thunder games. Let me say here that I am in a profession in which I am trained to observe people and their boundaries, and I never, not once, saw anything that gave rise to concern in me. Did some of these girls have crushes on him? Are you kidding, probably some of the moms did too...but not because he was being anything but an awesome coach and a cool soccer star.
As far as his blog -- well, he says at the outset that he is writing it for himself. Maybe it's silly to buy it, but I find his entries more interesting and detailed with regards to player development than most "coaching" sites, and to follow a team for a season reminds me of the book "The Beautiful Game" which did the same.
To finish with a disclaimer, I don't think I've talked to Mark in six years, and the last time i did he was telling me that my kid was cut from a team, so it's not like I'm in his inner circle -- just have the advantage of being parents of kids in their twenties and saw him at the beginning of his journey.
All of the U15 boys games should be entertaining this weekend.
Anyone know the coaches for the MU U13 boys teams?
According to the MYSA web site:
Jedi - Zafer Kilickan
Wildcats - Dave Jones
The MU Wildcats are coached by Tomba Johnson. It is my understanding that he has been out of state and unable to be at the State Cup games thus far. I know he has been there coach the last couple of years and the MU web site has him listed as the coach.
Like soccergeek I have also be witness to MA’s work throughout the last decade. All who have will not argue that he has been instrumental in the development of the youth game here in MN, especially on the girls side. He has also been an integral part to the continued survival of the pro team over the years - something that is important to the development of the sport as a whole in this country. His passion for his work with the younger female players is infectious and people will always take issue with what he does and micro-analyze everything because in most cases he is successful.
I am a professional coach but have been involved with young players for many, many years. I have been following his postings for a few years now through the Bangu site and have found his thoughts and training ideas valuable to my work. Though Mark has allegiance to a club that many like to hate, he is doing more for coaches like myself in other clubs than our coaching director is doing. His current site provides more in depth insight and readers get a unique perspective because of the added personal history (which I enjoy reading immensely).
Would other coaches or coaching directors take flak for setting up something like this? Probably. Would it be a valuable resource to the Minnesota soccer community to have other experienced youth coaches work to post thoughts like MA has? Most assuredly.
To MA I say this – keep it up. Don’t let posts like those above take the wind out of your sails. Though some will always take issue with what people like you do, there are 100x as many who greatly appreciate the efforts.
Great post, scv_red.
Unfortunately and for whatever reason, either by accident or design, MA has created a bit of a cult of personality for himself. This tends to cloud people's assessment and too often leads to unquestioning adoration, or unreasonable vilification.
Behind the cult of personality, however, there is plenty of substance on which he can be reasonably and critically evaluated.
Like soccrgeek, my daughter also played for Mark. While she never adored him, and certainly didn't agree with him at all times, she always respected him.
That's what a coach's relationship should be with their players - not adoration, not friendship, but respect.
nothing wrong with polarizing yourself - you find out who your supporters are and who your detractors are. Very difficult in the state of nice (passive agressive MN)
anyone see the U18 boys semi-finals and have a summayr? Was the bangu and maplebrook game really 3-0 one sided? was wings and wayzata really as close as 2-1? who scored first?
I saw the Bangu 18 match.
They scored a goal about 5 minutes into the match and another about 10-15 minutes later.
Maplebrook was never really in the match.
Bangu scored again fairly early in 2nd half to seal the deal.
This game was as one sided as the score.
Some interesting ODP selections yesterday on the boys side....
Why do you say that?
Concerned - no one seems interested in the sociological debate, but I will say this. There are many coaches out there like MA who are very passionate about the game and about giving back to the game. Though each individual goes about things in their own way, there is little doubt that someone like MA is very good for the MN soccer community. He is not unique in the fact that he loves what he does and works tirelessly to make things happen on the girls side of the game, and we should all be thankful that there are many people like him involved in the sport in our area.
I run a club, I know what he is going through. I don't have the time nor the interest to run a site like he does but that doesn't mean that I don't subscribe to the site and that I'm not extremely interested in what someone of his experience has to say. Heck, I've used a number of his sessions with some of the teams I'm dealing with - though I will say that much of the stuff he does with the U13s is more suited for the older teams in my club. Our U13s couldn't possibly hope to find success in many of his exercises.
Like many of said, I hope he stays the course as there are many tangible benefits to what he (and others like him) offer.
duke nukem,
By interesting choices are you referring to the fact that 5 players from the 1990 and 1991 boys pools are from Illinois (3), Virginia (1) and California (1)?
What's up with that?
Why are we displacing our Minnesota kids and denying them the
opportunity to have ODP on their resume with kids who don't live in this state and won't live in this state when their HS days are over?
Who approved this ruling allowing out of state players to be on Minnesota's ODP teams?
Does anyone else find this absurd?
right or wrong on the odp selections, I dunno. However, I believe the rules for ODP selections make allowances for players attending boarding schools in state participating in either their home state or the state in which they board.
as long as mysa is following the rules, and not making up new ones along the way, I cannot get too upset about this. not sure what it does to help players in our state develop, if we are allowing several out of state kids to participate here in lieu of a MN kid, but that is a different question than whether mysa has the right to select these players.
all i can say is that if one of them happens to get selected to the region team or pool at some point, please let's not list them as MN kids, huh? Congratulate them, but let's not claim that our state association had any part in their development.
I think this is a terrible precedent to set.
If a kid can't make ODP in his state will he decide to make it here in Minnesota?
I'm going to contact our club's president on this issue and see if she'll propose a new rule at the AGM to block this from happening.
I strongly expect most of our states clubs will agree with keeping Minnesota ODP a program catering to Minnesota kids 1st.
If we didn't have enough players to fill our ODP slots that would be another matter.
We need to take care of our own kids first then worry about kids from other states.
Let the kids from California, Illinois and other states play in the ODP program where they have played their youth soccer.
I may be wrong, but I doubt it is a MYSA rule that allows kids that go to school, and live in the state for 75% of the year, the opportunity to try out for ODP here.
After all, the purpose of ODP is NOT to give all MN kids an equal opportunity to participate in the regional camps. ODP is a national program meant to identify the top players in each region, and the nation.
It could be argued that preventing boarding students the opportunity to participate in their school's state program is against the real purpose of the US program. These kids can not participate in their home state's programs (due to distance), and now people want to prevent them from participating where they live, too?
That is an idea that would definitely limit the national pool.
I wish you good luck; the misguided need luck as reason deserts them.
From the US Youth Soccer policy on Players and playing rules...
Rule 201. Section 1.
"A youth player must register each seasonal year in the State Association in which he
or she resides with his or her parent or parents or guardian or guardians, or, for a student in residence at
a boarding school, college, or university, the player may register in the state in which the boarding school,
college, university, or division of the college or university is located."
I don't have a big problem with the SSM players in our ODP program, if they are better than the other MN kids then they belong on the team. The purpose of ODP is to identify the best players in the US, not just MN and if they are better than some MN kids that is OK. I will have a much bigger problem if MYSA allows SSM to join as a club, they recruit with no guidelines and should not be allowed to play in MYSA sanctioned leagues or events. It is my belief that all clubs need to band together show the MYSA that we do not want them in our state association, they can play US Club Soccer and still compete nationally without having to join the MYSA.
I think the problem many have with out of state residents making a MN ODP pool are:
1) Is ODP supported & funded by MYSA or is it self-sufficient? In other words do the fees we pay MYSA support ODP or is ODP supported totally, thru the fees the players pay when they sign up for ODP?
2) Did these players make their states ODP teams before coming to SSM or are they trying out in MN with the thought it is a smaller pool and easier to make? Why does this matter? If they were not making their own state pool, I would assume they are a role player on the ODP team. ODP role player is the player that has no chance of making the Regional pool and makes the State pool to support and help the players who do have a chance of making the Regional/National team. So... if any of these players are just role players on the field why support them, when MYSA could support a player from their own state, which years from now will more in likely, be in the position to give back to their home state and community.
3) Finally, most of us I believe have a problem with what we perceive as an unlevel playing field. How does the average club/family even compete with SSM 30K program? Noticed, I did not even start with the low-income players. Again, this has been an on going discussion, is the promotion of soccer being only for the upper suburban population help soccer and soccer in Minnesota in the end? Which is what MYSA overall objective should be?
Whatever, it does not belong under the State Cup discussion. I am somewhat hesitant about asking for an ODP thread as it may slide rapidly into a whine and complain.
Let me guess...Anon 10:56 is from a western suburb club? I guess the community clubs now have 3 clubs to hate ;)
Four kids from Wisconsin made it also, but why does it matter? If a player is really good enough to be on the team then they should make it..and as for their resume, players can always list they participated in Minnesota ODP and in fact, Minnesota asks that of all players who tried out...
If you go to Region camp, you are exposed to training and playing with the top players from each state (which in theory can help you develop as a player by letting your see where you are compared to the best.) Also, you are exposed to some of the top coahces (ok maybe not top, but good coaches), and are seen by many college coaches. Being a Regional Camp participant is typically the base list of players that coaches use for focused recruiting. Not necessarily a scholarship thing, but an interest from coaches.
The top 90s players from other states will get some of the attention from college coaches in that could be going to local kids. MN clubs should not try to legislate more silly rules, however to say that this situation does not affect MN players is ridiculous.
A good example of a player who was always on the fringe, but was invited to few Region Camps, is a kid who will be a senior at EP next year. He plays mid-field for the EP U17s and has turned into a fine player over the years. He will probably not garner the attention from college coaches that he should expect based on his talent. However, he is my early favorite for Mr. Soccer.
In MN pool with 5-8 non-state players, he probably would have never been invited to camp, would not have received any attention from the MN coahces, and would have fallen further down the list for recruiting.
Why stop with ODP? Tonka parents, you should call the UofM and make a rule that they can only give scholarships to MN players. I am not just speaking of soccer, here. I also mean football, basketball, and of course hockey.
The U is partially supported by the tax money of Minnesota citizens. It is unfair that opportunities are given to kids from Illinois and (gasp) Texas instead of Minnesota
You guys need to stop whining
lets's get to the botton line - if you want to make the ODP team make it impossible for the coach to keep you off the team.
As a player, why would you want to be included on the team just because your from MN but a better player was not included because he was from away.
Ah yes the satisfaction of earning it.
all kids feel that sense of pride and accomplishment when they get something their parents whine long and hard for
I'm for an ODP like program but I do not like the format or product. It's needed but not in it's current plan.
How important is ODP for a kid to progress. I have a player that has no interest in ODP but would like to play at the college level. What is the best way to proceed without going the ODP route?
Anon 9:07
Find a club with quality coaching and a year round training program.
Research Bangu and Wings as they're the top 2 clubs in Minnesota.
happens all the time anon 907 - ODP is not that big of a deal if you do not have it on your soccer resume.
The kids that do it will give you both positives and negatives about the experience.
No amount of HS awards matter either.
A soccer coach's biggest concern is what can this player do on the field and how does he/she add value to the team (current time- not past history)
Her soccer talent, the training she wishes to pursue and, effort she puts into them will carry her further than anything else
Tomass - your points are valid. Your last statement is a very valuable piece of advice for any parent/player.
But many coaches will not see players that are not part of ODP or part of teams that travel to quality showcase tournaments or play on teams that make the MN State Cup finals/Usysa regionals. If you want to be seen,
1. make Region Camp
2. play for a club/team that travels and can get into quality showcase tournaments
3. play for a club/team that can make it to the state cup finals and go to regionals
Those are the 3 primary venues for D1 and D2 recruiting where MN kids can put themselves into a position to be seen.
That said the MIAC and other Midwest based conferences recruit heavily in the upper Midwest. They watch HS games, they attend group play at the MN State Cup, they attend out of state tournaments and watch teams with players that are likely to be interested in what they have to offer.
D3 soccer can be/is great soccer, especially in the MIAC.
division by state is another serious flaw in the ODP system
bottom ten kids on a typical MN roster? Not even getting a look in IL, MO, MI, or many other states outside our region
my kid included, btw
love MIAC soccer
Some of the group games this weekend look like previews for the semis and finals. I hope to watch a few. U15 boys - Wings are scoring some goals - PSA is looking strong all around - Bangu needs to put a few more in the back of the net.
Boys 15s will be Bangu and PSA in the final. Should be a great game. If Wings upset Bangu in the semi, the final will still be a great game. Hard to imagine anyone getting past PSA in the final though. Bangu may have the defense to get it to a shootout though...who knows then.
Any scores from tonight?
i happened to catch the bangu and blackhawks game and it ended up 2-0 bangu. however, if bangu can find a way to finish, this game is easily 10, 11-0. they had numerous breakaways where their forwards were not concentrating. if bangu finds the back of the net, it could be a long state cup for all the 16's teams. they look sharp all around.
U16 Boys
Bangu 2- Blackhawks 0
WBL 2 - LKV 1
Edina 3 - SCV 0
Eden Prairie 3 - Wings 1
Champlin 3 - Kicker 0
Monticello 0 - Rochester 0
wings and edina need to win their next 2, and it could be very interesting if they tie. that would mean that a team from another bracket would make it through as the wild card. champlin looks as if they will easily come out of that group and bangu looks as if they will win theirs easily. however, eden praire still has edina and there are only 2 more spots open. it could get interesting
The Bangu U16's just don't give up goals.
They only allowed 2 goals in 9 games in Midwest League. It will be an upset if anyone beats them.
That is very true. I can see Bangu 16's going through state cup with out allowing a goal. There defense is very strong and has no holes. With this, they could do very well in regionals also.
I heard this week that they just added an ODP kid from California who attends school at Shattuck.
He's another ODP caliber defender adding to that already strong defense.
I was wondering who some of their new players were. I think he was playing up top for them but if he goes to the back, i dont know if anyone could score on this defense. This is one of the most impressive defenses i have seen in a long time from a Minnesota team.
OK, last 5 anons...get off their jock. Come on! Yes they have a good defense, stop the self promotion. I am a Bangu parent, but this is getting to be a bit much. Let them play it out on the field. They have to win state cup before they think about regionals.
any scores from saturday
Bangu U17G 0-0 against North Metro
Bangu U17G White 0-0 against North Metro
what are the names of bangu's U16 back four?
Larry, Curly, Shemp and Moe
I LOVE THEIR WORK!
"ohhh A wise guy eh" ?
You forgot "W" . . .
the back four for bangu is Austin Elliason, Duke Lo, Gunnar Knutson, and Tyler Heaps.
Any scores for the U14 bracket today?
I believe it was
Bangu blue v White 1-0
Eden prairie v Coon Rapids 2-0
Wayzata v Bangu Green 5-0
Woodbury v Tonka 2-0
U15B: PSA 3-1 over Wings. From what I saw, it hould have been 6 or 7-0. PSA missed a bunch of "sure thing" goals. Wings lone goal was on a "swing and a miss" type error by a PSA defender and miscommunication with goalie.
Boys 16 Semi finals...
Bangu vs Kickers
Eden Praire vs Champlin
what do you think the final will be..a rematch of last year maybe?
What was the score of the Bangu game?
Have they allowed a goal yet in State Cup?
U14 Girls:
BNGMW over BNG 1-0
WDB over TNK 3-1
WYZ over BNGC3 4-0
EDP over CRA 1-0
MTC U16 DID GREAT!
CDA sure got Lucky to get out of there bracket.
:)
Bangu 16's tied 0-0 today and no they have still not allowed a goal. Thats about 15 games allowing only 2 goals.
oh and monticello should give up.(embarassment to Minnesota Soccer) Champlin destroyed every team in that bracket.
Bangu's boys have teams entered in 5 age groups at State Cup.
Their top teams at each age level have not lost a game yet in bracket play.
An interesting note is that up until tonight their top teams have only allowed 1 goal combined between U13, U14, U15, U16 and U18 age groups.
It seems like their top level girls teams have similar results.
Are they doing something different in their club training that results in so few goals against?
Anyone have any insight? It has to be something more than just good players.
Bangu girls-7 age groups 10 semi-finalist, of those teams only 3 goals allowed total. No U18 team and the U19's have not played yet. They also have a chance at having 3 of 4 semifinalist at U13.(two for sure with one still alive but behind on goals allowed)
No doubt they are seperating themselves from the rest of MN.
I know this isn't about how good Bangu is but......
Watch a bit of the Woodbury vs Valley United U17 Boys game. It ended up in a 1-1 tie; and was one of the best youth soccer games I've seen. Both teams played very well and it was fun to watch.
Thank you boys, job well done.
To the two clowns writing in extolling Bangu's greatness above: You are really missing the point. It says very little about a club when they strip local clubs of most of their talent and then (shockingly) manage to beat those teams in a tournament. It's tantamount to taking the engine out your neighbor's car and then noting how your car runs so much better than theirs. They're geniuses all right. If the bangu cartel manage to bring home a bunch of regional titles, then you can celebrate their coaching brilliance. In the meantime, celebrate their marketing and the naivety of the MN soccer parent.
anyone have results for U15 tonight? Bangu, Westside,Blackhawks, Valley United?
Here we go again, shame on you Bangu for stealing all of the other good kids from the community clubs. Never mind the fact that the U13,14 and 16 teams are all products of the Bangu program, never mind the fact that 5-8 years ago MN was lucky to win a game at regional let allow be competitive. Shame on Bangu for raising the level of play in MN, a level that is at least competitive with the the rest of the region. Maybe we should expell them from MYSA so we can go back to the days when we never won games a regionals so the small minded people like anon 10:32 can be happy.
By the way, taking the engine is one thing, making it run is a whole other issue, looks like Bangu takes the engine and makes it run!!!
Boo hoo anon 10:14 to bad your little Cindy didn't make the Bangu team. Parents and players choose to leave their clubs looking for something better. When will you CC knuckle-heads understand you don't own players because they live in your zip code. Players and parents have the freedom to seek out the best opportunity/fit. Sometimes that means going to a select club, sometimes that means playing with friends on a CC team, sometimes that means going to Shattuck, IMG, etc. There is nothing wrong with any of the options.
sorry. boo hoo anon 10:23, not 10:14.
Anon 10:23,
Do you think the fact that the best players looking for the best opportunities and trying out for a team Bangu is "raiding?"
And how is this any different than what goes on in any state around the country in youth soccer?
Look at the teams that reach regionals and nationals? Do you think these are teams drawing from their little suburban community?
And whining about marketing? What marketing? The fact they provide an informational website that one must seek out?
Or are they now spending millions advertising on TV? LOL
Players seek the best program, the best coaches then vote with their feet. This is no different than what goes on in any state across the USA in soccer of any other sport.
Just look at the number of kids who transferred high schools to participate in a better athletic program. We just had over 900 file to beat the new May 1st deadline/rule denying them this opportunity.
It's time to wake up, quit the petty sniping, give up the jealousy and get on with life.
Wow, I can't imagine why my child wanted to play with Bangu.....maybe it has to do with the fact that our CC can only field 5 teams at C1, boys and girls combined. Kinda' sad in a program that purports to have over a thousand kids in it.
Get off the CC vs. super club wagaon. It happens all over in sports. They are two differnt type of clubs feeding differnt player/parent needs. Each offers great products for differnt needs.
Bangu has a lot of great marketing, time will tell if they actually live up to the billing.
To me it seems like it is more about the coaches ego over there and less about the kids.
I doubt it is all sunny and roses on the inside.
Last time I checked:
Burnsville have won nationals
Blackhawks have won nationals
Old Bangu went to nationals
St. Croix went to region finals/semifinals
Numerous other clubs have been very respectable
The picture wasn't so disparing bad back in the day as the Bangu folk want you to believe. Consumer beware.
thinker,
so if the "formula" back then worked for the CC's why can't they use that "old formula" and beat the Bangus and the Wings type programs today?
could it be the dynamics of youth soccer have changed a little in the last 6-7 years?
you can't live in the past when everyone else is living in the now and adapting/evolving for future change.
and consumer beware? beware of what? success?
anon 8:12
Keep drinking the Kool-aid
thinker,
retool your CC to the formula that worked in the 90's. maybe you'll relive some of that success. ROFL.
in the meantime come out to Coon Rapids next weekend and watch all the Bangu teams in the semi-finals.
is your team going to be there?
no kool-aid is necessary. the proof is there in the results.
Regarding the post that Bangu teams have allowed so few goals at State Cup.
My son's team played against Storlien's Bloomington Jefferson team in Lake Conference for 3 years.
One thing was always obvious, he preached "defense first". The Jefferson teams never pushed too many numbers ahead of the ball.
I have to believe his influence in the Bangu club has taken his high school philosophy of "defense first" into the club program.
Any other thoughts from other coaches?
Browse through MA's roadtoregioanls.com website. It is clear in his journal that to compete at the top levels, defending is a key component to success. I'm sure many top coaches (Bangu and non-Bangu) see this as well.
I can't help but think that my fellow bangu parents who are using state cup results to crow about how great their child's club is, are missing the mark.
Imagine a college tournament of Minnesota teams. UofM shows up along with UMD, Winona St, Minnesota State, Macalester, Gustavus, etc. Now imagine that the U wins this tournament. Would they be justified in proclaiming how great the Gopher soccer program is because they beat Winona St?
Of course not. With all due respect to those other schools and their fine soccer programs, the Gophers goals are, and should be, different. The Gopher's soccer program needs to be judged not on whether they can beat other MN teams, but how they compare to other big ten schools and how far they advance in the NCAA tournament. Right?
The success of Bangu as a soccer program should not be based on their state cup success. They have a majority of the best players, so of course they should do well at state cup.
Bangu should be judged on how they do against other clubs that also attract the top talent; Milwaukee Wave, Eclipse, etc.
The coaches get this. Look at MA's RTR site. He lists several goals for his team this year. Not one of them is to win state cup. He knows that this is a minimum standard for his team, and not the goal achievement. The closest he gets is to not give up a goal at state cup, and to advance out of pool play at regionals.
These are proper goals for Bangu. The coaches get it, I hope the players get it, let's see if the parents can follow suit.
The milwaukee wave reference just shot down your credibility
b_pa, MA doesn't list State Cup as a goal for this year, but it is the overriding goal for the team. This is what his site is all about. Did you miss that?
On the girls side, let's look back at last year's regional tournament:
Bangu - 4 out of 7 age groups
Eclipse - 7 of 7
Milwaukee Blue - 6 of 7
Javanon - 4 of 7
KCFC - 3 of 7
Ohio Elite - 3 of 7
Arsenal - 3 of 7
CUSC - 3 of 7
What's occurring in MN is also occurring across RII. If you think it's bad here, just look across the border to WI.
I wanted to use two clubs as reference points, both of which attract top talent in their areas; one of which has had more success than Bangu, and another that has had less.
Think of it as using Penn State and Iowa as reference points in the college soccer analogy.
Bangu Cheerleaders
Truely, great players and programs don't have to tell everyone of their greatness, everyone knows it because they can see it. Instead of jumping up and down saying "look at us, look at us." Show some class, enjoy your sucess quitely, and those who know and care will notice. A good example, do you think Chicago Magic carry on in a blog about how good they are? I don't think so, but we all know they are a quality club.
Now lets hear something about about actual games. Like Eden Prairie vs Wayzata u16 girls game, or White Bear Lake vs St. Croix Valley U15 Boys game. I'd even like to hear about the U15Boys Bangu vs Westside game. All look like they could have been great games to watch.
anon 11:54 -
Nope, didn't miss the name of the site. I just figured that Mark was smart enough in the naming of his site to do the following; 1) choose a name that would grab peoples attention, and 2) choose a common benchmark that was notable and achievable (ie, a minimum for success as I stated in my first post).
I do not think this is the overriding goal of the team, as you put it. I know for a fact that most of the parents and players on that team do not view it as such, though some may.
it always starts in the back with defense.
Prevent shots or limit their dangerousness and a team will do well.
Stay organized, keep shape
play complete soccer.
when your team has the ball you are all attackers when you do not have the ball you are all defenders to win the ball back and limit opportunities
Bangu's overall goal for ALL of its teams is development. State Cups/winning tournaments/etc. all are byproducts of taking players to the next level. Anyone who thinks that Bangu's coaches' number purpose is to garner wins to feed their own egos (at least on the girls' side) is sadly mistaken.
Cook/Abboud and ego in the same sentence. Never!!!
Anon 12:16 could not have hit the nail on the head any better.
Semi finalist counts by club, 2 U13 boys slots are still up for grabs:
1 team: BHK, DKT, CRA, MUS, EDI, TRV, CDA, ROC, MPB, WYZ, WBL, TNK, ORX, KIK, BVL
2 teams: PSA, EAG
3 teams: WDB, VLY, SCV, EDP
5 teams: WNG
14 teams: BNG
2006 top clubs for semis:
3 teams: BHK
5 teams: EDP
7 teams: WDB
9 teams: WNG
11 teams: BNG
2005 top clubs for semis:
3 teams: BHK
4 teams: WDB , VLY, SCV, EDP
7 teams: BNG
8 teams: WNG
Sorry mcp, but it takes a little bit of an ego and ambition to truly accomplish great things. Hats off to the two egotistical maniacs for the work they and others like them have done for girls soccer in our area. Hope your daughter found a good place to play after she was cut/didn't make a Bangu team. People like you are so transparent.
For u16 Boys.. Champlin vs. Rochester was ugly but only because Rochester had their best defender out in the first couple of minutes..score should have been around 1-0 or 2-0..Second half though champlin took it to rochester cause it looked like they(roc) switched systems or something but they were not in their regular form..very disappointing..also roch out shot monticello 25-5 and kickers 29-6..UGLY bad performance by rochester and monticello...
monticello....im at a loss for words.
yea they are looking pretty rough
x-ray:
The "your daughter must have got cut for the team argument" is old and overused.
Yet timeless and appropriate.
mcp - yep reads like green eggs and ham, way too predictable. Must be a first year Bangu parent going through initial training. Still very proud of his accomplishment......errrrr I mean his daughter's accomplishment and works it into just about every conversation he can.
"Do you want fries with that?"
"well yes, my daughter plays for a bangu premier team and needs the extra carbs and calories, thank you for asking"
I didn't know they still sold those x-ray glasses from the back of comic books yet. I see they still work as well now as they did back then.
don't worry x-ray, once you pass the initial year's training, I think they allow you to try thinking on your own from time to time.
they gave up on brain washing bangumom. It was hard to keep her attention with all the conversations she had going on the sidelines during the game......some just with herself
;-)
x-ray
my daughter has never and will never tryout for a bangu team. She loves the game of soccer but also enjoys her friends and her free time. I am saving what it would cost to play for a bangu to pay for college, a car, house, ect....
PS she does play premier.
I have to wonder how much some of the posters here actually enjoy what their kids are involved in. If my kids' activities caused me the agitation that seem to be caused to you clowns, I would just stay the bleep out of them all.
For me, I enjoy what my kids do. I appreciate the effort they put in, the successes they enjoy, but most importantly just the opportunity to be there with them.
Funny, I even enjoy when they play against someone or a team that is just better. I appreciate kids who are capable of performing at a high level - even if they do not wear the same colors as my kid. Don't get me wrong, I love it when my kids get results, but it really does not change my life much one way or another because they won or lost last weekend.
The way some of you dip$#!^s write here, I can't imagine you are truly enjoying yourself as much as you should be.
In the words of the great Bill Murray, "Lighten up, Francis."
Tomass...who told about my secret conversations?? Well just to lay the matter at rest, I'm not really talking to myself...I'm relaying information to our topsecret group of people who steal players away in the middle of the night to join our teams!
On another note, blowout or not, isn't the object of a sanctioned game ultimately to win? If it is apparent that the opposing team has an ice cubes' chance of even scoring, what is the problem with using the rest of a game as a training session?
p.s. Favorite quote....You can have all the battle plans you want, down to the smallest detail. However, once the battle starts the plans go out the window.
pssstttt....bangumom,
don't give away any of those top secret methods we use to spirit kids away in the middle of the night, ply them with the bangu kool-aid and convince them their CC sucks and the ongoing brainwashing at each secret training session.
Yo Grandpa,
I'm sure your memories of kool aid parties back in the prohibition era are very clear and useful to you. Happily, you do not have to look back that far or live in your little fantasy world. We now have parking lot conversations, self-promoting websites, Thunder camp e-mail and phone lists, blatant lies regarding recruiting intent and practices, hopeless indifference from MYSA, and WOW cards as evidence of the efforts of the bangu honchoes to undermine the teams and efforts of other clubs. The bangu people have fun with the oft-repeated kool aid and other jokes, but ethics are a serious matter - and completely lacking in the leaders of that club. Sadly, it's not funny at all.
Ouch - someone woke up on the wrong side of the pitch....
great, another clear thinking, anonymous blogger taking shots at the character of the leaders of a group. :idiot: does this site have emoticons?
anon 3:42... please.
Come to the table with solid proof, or sit back and continue wallow in envy, resentment, or whatever else you feel as Bangu, for some reason, has obviously had a profoundly negative effect on your life that you cannot seem to get over.
Wouldn't forming teams, training and playing in events in August, Sept, Oct and Nov make the players ineligible for MSHSL soccer?
One of my daughters HS teammates was invited to guest play at a college search event last fall (I think the Nike Friendlies?) and was told it would make her ineligible for MSHSL play if she did.
What does this have to do with State Cup????
Yawn, I think I'll go watch the paint dry. Can ANYONE say something of interest about State Cup. Pretty please.
MNFutbol, how about a thread with heading....
"2007 Bangu/Wings Evil Empire or Freindly Federation" Maybe then we can hear something interesting about the games this past weekend.
spot on......
in the 17's age group it is valley against eden praire in the semifinal. i can see another upset happening! valley is ranked 13 in the nation and they go 1-0-2 in state cup?? can anyone say overrated?
Valley United was in the group of death while EP was in the easy bracket. Valley is tough and should beat EP. Not sure if EP would have even made the semi's if they were in the other bracket.
You should remember what happened last year in this group at U16. I would not call it for anyone as these games seem to bring out the best in the EP team.
VU has deservedly gained some credibility; all you have to look at is their performance in the MWL -premier- this spring. They have some very good players. And the Wings seem to have brought it on for the State Cup.
Not much to say about state cup til this weekend....Yes, she would have been ineligible for MSHSL soccer...the only thing you can do basically from mid Aug - Nov 1st is MSHSL, with the exception of being invited to participate on a ODP team event.
group of death?? i wouldnt go that far. if they are 13th in the nation and already have practicually everyone they want, they should still be killing these minnesota teams. its obvious that they play down to other teams levels and that they can be beaten.
Anon you seem to forget the recruiting antics of a certain club up until their recent DOC change. Here is just a sampling:
* Formed their U20, U19 and U18 boys teams through holding tryouts for Super-Y teams about 4 or 5 years back, even though no team ever players Super-Y or had any intention to.
* Convinced another club’s team to disband and re-form as a 2nd premier team at an age group, then dropped the second team, just to get the top 3 or 4 players from the other team.
* Call players directly at the age of 14, even after parents had told coaches and club officials to stop. Even after being asked a 2nd time to stop calling by parents, coach still called home just after school to talk to the kids when parents were not home.
* Text message kids on their cell phone about coming to their teams. Even after parents asked coach to stop contacting their child.
* Openly recruit as part of the ODP program. While at least 1 coach was suspended from ODP, the practice still remains.
* Had team parents threatened scholarship players with law suites for previous years fees if the players switched to other teams.
* Attend USA Cup and State tournaments and approached players after the game to personally invite them to tryouts.
* Have club officials attend HS games to recruit players and try to get HS coaches to help switch player’s allegiance.
Oh, and the other clubs, lets not forget the recent letters sent by club DOCs to HS players and the players from countless HS who are told by their club or HS coaches that they will not play for their HS team if the leave the CC.
Yeah, ethics...it seems to be in short supply...
rookie readers! it always comes back to attacking clubs....just like those parents that live through their children in making sure the conversation comes back to their kids and their super human exploits (yawn)during the daily water-cooler monologue
This is far more predictable than the weather
anon-926
ahhhhh, if only MDW worked that hard on outstate recruits
Tweedle-dee: Did he double charge kids at tryouts?
Tweedle-dumb: Did he steal money from private school and get turned in to the police for it?
Does anyone really know where any of the money is going in this said club?
Not much talk about actual games here.How sad to use State Cup as a vehicle to promote/demote,so much for the love of the game itself
"let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Love what YOU have. Can we stop stepping on other people to get ahead and focus on providing the kids we work with/parent/play with, with the opportunity they want? It's a lot easier to hate than to appreciate that someone is doing something different.
Agreed...the anonymous bomb throwing is childish.
Let's use this forum for soccer discussions.
If you have a beef with an individual be man enough to address it face to face.
Should we get a different forum for the people arguing about clubs? Because last time I checked this forum is for the State Cup, yet all I read is these stubborn parents that have a kid who is either on Bangu or have a kid who didn't make Bangu...Mnfutbol-make a new blog strictly for the loser parents/coaches who think that arguing on this blog will actually help their cause...
The club I referenced at 9:26 is a NW metro club.
heard from an insider today that a boys team advancing to the semis may have had a ineligble player - anyone know age or team?
I've been hearing for a few months now that one of the regional team boys is actually a year older than his club claims.
Could this be the situation?
No one has question the age of any player, I wonder if there are multiple teams with this concern of providing the correct age documents.
Knowing the retentivness of Mr M. at MYSA, I think it is probably only a rumor about the age level. Unless someone has some proof of forged documents it is probably just ill will.
Should we get a different forum for the people arguing about clubs? Because last time I checked this forum is for the State Cup, yet all I read is these stubborn parents that have a kid who is either on Bangu or have a kid who didn't make Bangu...Mnfutbol-make a new blog strictly for the loser parents/coaches who think that arguing on this blog will actually help their cause...
I leave town for a few days and all hell breaks loose! I did clean up a bunch of junk out of this post. Please stick to the issue at hand. I think we all know people who stutter and it is no laughing matter. I don't want to make a post for people to take shots at each other...go to a different blog if that is what you need.
oh brother, unbelievable - simply unbelievable
U-18 girls final is 11:30AM
don't worry tomath... I thtill think you have a lot of withe wordth to offer uth readerth.
Tomorrow's U16 semi should be a funny game to watch....bangu v the kickers....all I can say is I hope the kickers can stop at least one of bangu's players. I watched the kickers play and they don't stand a chance. oh well...at least they can win some games in C1
mnfutbol - I beg to differ
LOL - Liberal PC censorship at its best.
Having gone through 3 years of extensive speech therapy as a kid and having a childhood friend who also stuttered (took us a day and a half to say good-bye), maybe I'm a better judge of whether that stuttering comment was offensive. I suppose Porky Pig is offensive too (and I use to think he was the only one who talked normal)
It's your sandbox and your rules so be it.
such a natty hair blog ho.............st
so niggardly with the discretion ;-)
games tomorrow to talk about so I guess we move on
I also struggled through speach therapy, as have 2 of my children. You have the right to your opinion, as do I. You are funny either way ;)
thanks for your broaden, less niggardly discretion - my view; too smart to slow down the brain - we have to put up with the rest of them. Understand your your position better now. Our chips process too quickly - screw the slow thinkers
screw in the mechanical sense that is.
uh oh,
the apocalypse is near.
Bangu has 3 of the 4 semi-finalists in the U13 girls bracket.
Yet it will be the fourth team, Wings, who takes this age group. You heard it here first.
Intriguing Anon 8:50. Had the chance to see the Wings U13 girls and they do knock it around well for 13s, seem to have an interesting spark, but struggle to do much in the attack. I would like to see them against one of the C1 Bangu teams, but I think the BTE14 Premier group is just too strong offensively with 18 goals in group play.
U16 Boys
Bangu 2 vs. Kickers 0
Eden Prairie 1 vs. CDA 0
Good games! Bangu easily handled Kickers. Spent most of the time watching the EDP and CDA game, it was a very back in forth game, could have easily gone either way. Eden Prairie score on a muff by CDA goalie. CDA had a goal called back that was very questionable??? Fun game to watch.
Bangu & Eden Prairie in the Finals.
Wings U13Girls did scrimmage Bangu U13 White in March and was manhandled.
Bangu has three very solid u13 teams.
However the draw was pretty favourable as well. Wayzatta certainly belong in the semi but ran into Mark's team in group play. The Dakota Rev team tied the green team (was winning with a few minutes to go) last week and tied the white team about 6 months ago. Not saying that they belong in the semi's. However I do not feel Bangu is as dominate at this age group (accept for mark's team) as it may look.
Also Eagan did not play state Cup this year (don't ask me why) but they have already tied the Bangu white team in league play and have a very good team that went 10-0 in league play last year.
Mark's team will win, the question is will they make the Bangu white team look better than they are or will they keep playing? If they do they will win by atleast five goals.
who won in the u17 boy's semi's today?
VU (3-0)? and Wings (2-0)? won.
Its Wings Vs. the Bangu Stars in the U16 girls finals. Both teams are going to Regions.
State Cup Finals
U13 Girls: Bangu v Bangu
U14 Girls: Bangu v Bangu
U15 Girls: Woodbury v St Croix
U16 Girls: Bangu v Wings
U17 Girls: Bangu v Tonka
U18 Girls: PSA v St Croix
U13 Boys: Bangu v Mpls United
U14 Boys: Bangu v TRSA
U15 Boys: Bangu v PSA
U16 Boys: Bangu v Eden Prairie
U17 Boys: Valley v Wings
U18 Boys: Bangu v Wings
By the numbers for club finalists:
BNG 12 (probably 13 with the 2nd U19 girls team)
WNG 3
PSA 2
SCV 2
8 clubs with 1 (BVL, EAG, TRV, VLY, MUS, EDP, WDB, TNK)
Oh no! Could it be time for an intervention? I think the only one you missed was the new "f" word. Could it be you have given up the nasty smoking habit?
You crack me up!
any scores from Sunday?
Boys U17
Valley 4, Wings 1 (OT)
Boys U16
Bangu 2, Eden Prairie 1 (OT)
any info on the girls games?
Girls U18 SCV 1 PSA 0
Boys U18 BNG 2 WNG 0
Boys U15 PSA 3 BNG 0
U17 Girls BNG over TNK -- not sure about the score.
U17 Girls Bangu 6, Tonka 0
U13B - Mpls Utd 3 BNG 0
U14B - BNG 1 TRSA 0
U14G - BNG A 5 BNG B 0
U16G - BNG over Wings, not sure score
U15G - WDB over SCV
U13G - not over when I left, but I will call this one, BNG beat BNG
U13G Bangu U14P 1-0. Oh, Pull-eeze. Should have been 5-0. What a joke.
Can someone forward SB's phone number to the WNG board...bring him back and pay him!
widget, what's the joke?
bringhimback, give the new DOC some time.
He may need lots of time, not many good wings teams under U15, PSA is taking the better kids, SB, great guy, good coach, not dumb enough to go back.
PSA is one of the weaker community clubs in the state, even though they have tons of players. Lots of kids paying fees but nothing happening. Their U10 -U13 teams are weak. Only good younger age group at PSA is the U14 boys and girls - and they recruited the top players from Wings. SB was not paying attention to this age group at Wings and it shows.
Correction. Only good younger age group at PSA is U15 - Not U14.
widget,
BTE 1 - BNG 0
are you aware that was the only goal that team allowed the entire tournament?
looks like a perfectly legit outcome to me.
bringhimback......
You don't need SB, you need a board without current player parents on it. Too many teams are fielding players with folks with deep pockets or are board members. The better players know it and don't want to deal with the handy cap.
Worse yet, when it's obvious to those on the outside, it creates that slipper slope we all like to talk about.
SB was able to work with the same board to produce state cup champions. He was a master at getting his way. I'm not saying that the new DOC, given time, won't do the same. Your board comment is very accurate. Our club's reputation of being unreasonable whiners also comes from the board allowing to much inappropriate behavior by our parents and coaches. I am astonished how many of our friends refuse to get involved with the club. We will stick with the club as our son enjoys his coach and team.
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