Agree that MTA will run away with State Cup at U14. Tonka is better than they have shown thus far though (injuries and absences), and they will be the other finalist.
I can guarentee that several of the U15 Blue key players will be rested over the next few weeks. Playing 9 games in three weeks and all the travel took its toll on some of their players. No serious injuries, just the over use injuries that occur when playing so many games in a short period of time.
Two brackets in the U-13 age group could become very clear this weekend.
Bracket A and B will likely remain unclear. Bracket A MTE and Prior lake 2 will both likely win this weekend giving the final game of bracket play a game between the two U-12 teams for the right to advance out of pool play. BTW MTE tie SCV in first league game? wow I guess anything is possible.
Bracket B Rev and EP likely both win forcing a head to head matchup for the right to advance from bracket play.
Bracket C Cottage Grove 1-0-1 plays MTN 2-0-0. The winner of this game is almost a cinch to move through because their last games against lesser teams and both should win.
Bracket D MTA 2-0-0 plays against Edina 1-0-1 . Edina has an easier final game than MTA but both should win final meaning again that a winner would likely be the advancing team.
Should be fun to watch as many of the games have a true sudden death feel to them.
Doesn't it happen that some players have "off" games and other players really step it up and make some great plays in others? It seems some folks think that results from a game or two is the measuring stick to a team's likely success/demise. Frankly, I think a team can learn some very good lessons from not winning all the time. I usually cheer for the underdog when I don't have a pony in the race.
The game was rain shortened. It ended shortly into the second half. Had former years MYSA rules been applied it would not have been considered a full game but now with a recent rule change any game that reaches the second half is considered a full game. SCV is a much stronger team than most assummed they would be. This is the same team that played the U-13 MTA Blue team in State Cup to a 3-1 loss (SCV Loss).
I wouldn't be too sure that MTA blue will make the finals at U14. I understand they have some key players out with injuries, keeper center mid and center defender.
I guess they lost their last MRL game because they were the walking wounded.
Maybe they did too much over the winter and spring.
I think the last time they beat someone that team was under great personal stress. They were tired from family functions, school testing, prom, sore legs, sore hair, the sun got in their eyes, it was too rainy, it wasn't rainy enough, it was too sunny, it wasn't sunny enough, the game would have been won under 1920 rules, they were fighting with their friends, had a bad date at the movies the night before, got an A- on an assignment, didn't like their school lunch on game day, they were worn out from their elite training(being the only team or club that trains hard) etc,. etc., etc.
There has been a German cousins sighting. They are staying at their grandparents home in EP.They will be here for about two weeks then return to HS in Frankfurt.Very interesting....they brought their soccer gear with them.They are fabulous players. The attacker is practicing with the national team.
i think it is a great sign when non-mta teams work and train to try to raise their level to meet or exceed mta. as has said before, the competition raises the level of soccer in mn. it still has a long way to go to be relevant beyond its borders but that is getting better. i am not a big fan of burnsville but the fact that a club other than mta is doing well in MRL and SCV even challenged MTA's dream team is a good sign. good for mta to be challenged, good for the other clubs to try to compete. the anonymous blog hatred is inevitable but lets not lose sight of the overall improvement that competition brings. plus its mostly the parents acting like idiots, the kids are just working to get better and compete. the more competition for mta the better for the state
3:57 is right. Look at the success many Minnesota teams are having in MWL, even in premier divisions. A rising tide lifts all boats. The overall level of play here in Minnesota has improved dramatically over the past 6-8 years due to clubs working hard to keep up with the leaders.
Lets give a little love to Dave Linenberger the SSM U18 coach. He has done a fabulous job. He is possibly the best youth coach in the state.His record is unsurpased and he possess's the top credentials in the state. Those who know him from his college coaching days and his time as National Coach for U.S. Soccer recognize him as a top talent.Nice to have a coach of this caliber in Minnesota.
The Premier league teams are all solid, but not exceptional. MTA White would finish in the top half of the Premier league and be a contender to win it among others, but there is no team with the overall talent of MTA Blue. It will be a truly huge upset if they lose, unless they play MTA White and throw the game since they have already qualified for Regionals.
There may be "rising tide" as far as numbers of good teams (still questionable), but attributing it to MTA is bull. If soccer is getting better, it is no different than any other youth sport where kids are training more with more opportunity to play. There have been good teams at each age forever. Stars, Inferno, Tsunami Sota, Wings, St. Croix were not part of MTA or Bangu when they were formed (although the coaches involved in some of the teams are currently there). MTA is the current vehicle for many of the best players to gather on one team. At most age groups, there is a maximum of one or two very good teams. That has not changed for 15 years. There will be a new vehicle after MTA runs its course, and no one is chasing them any more than the top teams were chased several years ago.
Linenberger is good, but AK is better (Larry told me so). It's also beautiful to see the goobers again taking credit for improving the quality of programming in other metro clubs, as if no one would have thought of improving the collective level without the brain trust of MA, AK, MC and other goobs. This is intellectually staggering, and a little frightening, too. Yeah, I'm jealous and my kid got cut and we only beat them because of the rain and the fact that they were exhausted from getting pole-axed at regions a month earlier and they were missing people and if we beat them at State Cup it will only be because they were off in search of excellence and not playing for results...Why don't people like them again?
8:35 you had me at goober, or was it the tired old line "we raised the level" the excuse machine is always a sure bet to get me laughing. How about "I like coaching motivated, highly skilled girls who play soccer" like I'm Mother Theresa working in Calcutta. What givers over there. They bestowed good soccer on us here in Mn. Which one of them coached a national champ, wait, that was the Blackhawks Hmmmm.
First- with regard to the "out of state player" issue. Two things-
1) I have heard the story 15 times about Bangu "getting hosed" on the GK from Nebraska. I have YET to hear anyone explain what the MYSA official explanation was. IT IS NOT AGAINST THE RULES FOR A KID WITH A RESIDENCE IN ANOTHER STATE TO PLAY IN MN STATE CUP. MY DAUGHTER WAS OPENLY RECRUITED AND PLAYED FOR WOODBURY SPRINGBOK LAST YEAR IN STATE CUP. THERE WAS NO ISSUE WITH AN IOWA ADDRESS. So, again please someone come up with the rule on this. I certainly can't find it and know I did nothing special to get around it last year for my kid.
2) A violation of the MYSA recruiting rule can only occur with three conditions. a) person violating the rule must be an MYSA affiliate; b) club who is violated must be an MYSA affiliate; c) someone must lodge a formal complaint with documentation.
So, if SSM recruits a player in California.....were rules broken? NOPE. Why? Think of it like inter-state law. I cannot be prosecuted in Iowa for visiting the Mustang Ranch while I was in Nevada. Now, if the player is a MN player....then there is a case. I have seen the rule enforced in Iowa- it is a $500 fine payable by the Coach of the team. I have seen it enforced three times, same coach/club all three times.
Also, boarding schools have a special set of rules under USYS bylaws/rules. Sorry, but it is what it is. There is no sense in complaining that MYSA is looking the other way just to protect SSM. That is just silly. If you want proof of that, take a peek at the standings in the current U16G C3 season that SSM is currently playing (but that is another rant).
Sorry about the length, and I hope none of my post sounds condescending or sarcastic. It isn't meant to be. I just really wish that people could all just agree that not everyone agrees on what is right for their child--- mine needs something different than yours. That doesn't make me better or worse than you, just different.
I will say that I have just found a rule that could be used against someone from another State rostering on a team in MN....but if used it would clearly apply to all kids even from bordering States (such as the Western Wisconsin type of kids).
I don't think that MYSA would invoke that rule.....it could be a very sticky thing. It is USYS rule #201. It specifically says that a kid must be registered in the state where he/she resides with guardians (except for boarding schools). This would clearly make it illegal for a Wisconsin kid to roster with a MN team (unless it was a boarding school).
I get what your saying and agree with you for the most part. However, where does an email from one of the SSM coaches telling a player about the program and who they played fit into this. If that player is a MN player and it is before August 1, it is illegal. I have seen the emails and they are for sure recruiting MN players for there program. And now that SSM is an official MYSA club they need to abide by the same rules as every other MYSA club. Sending emails to individuals, talking about who they beat and what players have committed for next year is clearly an MYSA violation and should be punishable by MYSA. However MYSA continues to look the other way and lets SSM email every ODP player in MN without having a single fine or penalty against them.
After saying that, I have no issue with recruiting and feel very strongly that all clubs should be able to approach players at anytime to offer them the opportunity to hear about their program and what it has to offer. Too many people in this state feel that players are their property and they own them. That to me is wrong and people should be allowed to hear about any option they have for their child and then they can make a choice what is best for them. SSM recruits and that is fine by me, as long as every other MYSA club can do the same thing then we are on an equal playing field. However that is not the case and that is why people continue to have issue with SSM and its program.
14 games this weekend Group A MTA Blue 4 LKV 0 MUS 0 TCF 3 TCF 4 LKV 1 MUS 0 MTA Blue 5 Group B MTW 3 BVL 1 SCV 2 WYZ 0 WYZ 1 BVL 2 SCV 0 MTW 4 Group C TNK 4 EDI 0 ROC 3 BHK 0 BHK 1 EDI 2 ROC 0 TNK 3 Group D MPB 3 WDB 1 EDP 1 PSA 3 PSA 2 WDB 0 EDP 1 MPB 3
In regard to recruiting..This is youth, no pro's. Each family and player should have the decision to explore anytime they wish. If you want to get down to it, look at Real Madrid recruiting Ronaldo from Man U who IS under contract. If the big fellas can do it, then sure as #&%@ youth systems can do it. I agree with 2:20AM in some of what he said, Our children are not owned by anyone and clubs and coaches treat players like they are under a pro binding contract. That is SOOOOO wrong.
SSMSC, under that USYS rule #201, does it state anywhere if the state assn that the player is leaving gives written consent to play for another state (there is a form), then that should trump 201 right?? Reason I ask, we had to do this every yr she went to SSM and Eclipse??
7:55 am - this is an uneducated post regarding u14 predictions in so many ways - top teams, bias towards MTA (in particular MTAW), over valuing Tonka, undervalue Burnsville, way too many goals, etc. Give me some of you Kool-Aid I want to go on a trip to the moon!
8:01 - his record is unsurpassed??? What I have seen thus far is a complete failure to win anything meaningful with resources at his disposal most other clubs could only dream of...
Yes, he has a long resume. He has worked at a lot of places, sure does have a lot of licenses... and how many titles? championships?
He's a very good coach. Very good. Fact is, there ARE coaches in MN who have already accomplished twice as much in half the time. I can think of 3 right off the top of my head.
Are you guys talking SCV vs MTE's u12s that tied 1-1? And calling the 12s a dream team? I would think that team would finish 2nd or third in the east district behind athletic teams like SCV and Cottage Grove. That doesn't take away from the fact that having seen them play, the 12s are on track to follow in the MTA 15s and 13s footsteps.
DL is a below average coach. His credentials mean nothing. I've heard is a a decent teach, but his mustache is awful. AK is an average coach. Neither is capable of developing players.
2:09....Why do you say that?...are you privied to some information that we our not?.I would disagree with you but why argue with ignorance?.SSM south campus..get off the recruiting already..who cares?
Another sad day in Minn. soccer. The girls soccer coach in Monticello was charged with misconduct with one of his young players.He selected her as his favorite and then took advantage of the impressionable young girl.
These pervs like to isolate their victims. On trips she was always in his vehicle. No question there are others out there just like him.Parents need to teach their daughters to report anything that looks to be inappropriate immediately.
This is the second instance this year.
Be aware of any coach who seems to be hitting on a player no matter how innocent it may appear.
10s Dad- You are absolutely right. There is a section b which allows exactly what you are talking about. Which also proves my point- there is no rule in existence which would keep an out of state player from being rostered on a MN team (even for State Cup).
I purposely left off the other section of Rule 201 earlier. See what can happen if you only search for, or give part of the answer to a question? Section a clearly says that an out of state player can't play- but then section b equally clearly states that they can as long as they have a release from their "home state".
I am telling you that the Ted Stevens Amatuer Athletic Act says that MYSA can't do many of the things they think they can....and as soon as they push the wrong person enough of a stink will be made to the USSF which will cause a severe spanking to all those who choose to interpret the rules how they wish.
SSMSC the event you referred to (GK from NE) did happen and she was not allowed to play. The only one really to get "hosed" as you put it, was the player who had already done all the paperwork and been released form her former team. The coach of the team she hoped to play for was on here previously and explained it all to you in detail, perhaps you have forgotten. All the releases were signed, all paperwork was in order. The DOC can still say no and did. I believe the reason was that it would give an unfair competitive advantage. That is their prerogative. Now, I don't care where players come from, they should be allowed to play. I think SSM is good for soccer in the state. But please do not refer to events that you know nothing about. After all is said and done the final decision lies with the DOC, and in the past they have not allowed this to happen in most cases. A GK from ND playing for Wings is the only one I can think of. Good luck to all teams at state cup. Play your best and feel good about your effort after the game, win or lose.
I did not forget the explanation given (as you could infer from my previous post about it), nor do I doubt that it happened. However, there is NOTHING in the RULES that allow for the MYSA DOC to deny the request IF Nebraska released the player. UNLESS...the request to put her on a roster occured outside the rules allowable for State Cup inclusion (e.g.- the dates weren't met, rosters were frozen, etc.).
My point is that there where there are rules, there are those (even those in power) who misinterpret them. Someone should have undertaken the appeals process and gotten an explanation. I have to say that "she would give you an unfair advantage" does not work. You cannot stop someone from putting a player on a roster because they are "too good". Come on, you know better than that.....that is just plain silliness.
KNOW the rules so you aren't acted upon, be proactive. Don't let people spout rules at you (least of all me.....) and trust they are right. Research and understand so someone doesn't make you look foolish.
10:11- add to that a player from Iowa playing with the Woodbury Springbok team at State Cup and in limited MYSA Premier League play in 2008.
And, before you say "but she was at Shattuck, so she doesn't count". I'll tell you that as I recall it, the address used for her registration was in Central Iowa. MYSA would have had no way to know she was an SSM player.
I'll agree that the DOC does have some decision making powers, but only within the rules. He is not an "emperor" who can rule at his whimsy. Decisions can't be made without some rule of law behind them......and be defensible in an appeal.
No kidding, he's starting to rival mta parents with his constant blabbing on here. At least the mta parents don't try to hide the fact they are on here to brag about their dd's team, ssm tries to always work in the plug about his like we don't know what he's doing.
Some of you people are absolutely tools. I am so tired of trying to have discussions with you about anything. It is no wonder why people like Tomass have abandoned any/all discussions.
To set the record straight, anyone who can read can see that I have not written anything to promote my daughter's team-- the Coaching staff does a good enough job at that with those that matter. Not a single person reading this blog can help my daughter or her team with anything. I/we don't need your assistance with anything.
Like other anon posters have alluded to, I will also enjoy stopping in next year to read how mad you are about what is coming. I don't feel sorry for you, your closed mindedness makes you deserve everything you get. Good luck to your children, I wish them the best. As for the "adults"-- whatever.
SSMSC I am a big fan of the SSM program. I think it's a better choice for the truly dedicated player looking for more than winning State Cup. Part of the allure is the hope that it's players and parents that "get it" not those looking for something to bore others about around the water cooler at work. Your constant arguing with the haters on here makes me have doubts.
SSM-South, why the need to explain everything so much? Why are you trying so hard to get everyone's approval for SSM. It's like your coming out of the closet and trying to have everyone validate your feelings and accept you.
It's fine that you daughter goes to SSM. It's fine that they have a strong soccer program. We all hope if makes you feel good about your self, but few people really care.
The people who argue with you seem to consistently point out “fairness.” It appears that you think you are trying to “educate” the surfs with your rants. Which may give everyone a pretty good idea of your identity. You continue to express your opinions on various topics, trying to get your opponents to forget about their issues with fairness in competition (hmm…sounds like our president…but his kids don’t go to SSM…yet.)
If you look at most of the negative comments on this blog, they are targeted at success. It is MN nice, passive-aggressive behavior coming out. I personally don’t have any real issues with SSM being allowed to compete. However, I do agree on some negative points made by other bloggers regarding SSM coaching, reefing at scrimmages, constant marketing, arrogance of some players and parents, etc.
I hope you do continue to post on this blog, everyone is entitled to their opinions. Don’t expect people will stop the negativism. If you are too frustrated, then stop posting.
u14 premier last night, tonka/mta w tie, tc fire/woodbury tie, bville beats mpb 3-0. when bville plays mtaw this saturday that should show us if they are a challenger to MTA Blue.
SC, keep on posting little/big brother!! If the yahoos dont like to read your post, then use the mouse in your hand and pull down. Just because you know the rule book, your putting out facts, other than false hate that again, these yahoos all think they know.
U16 gets underway tonight. MTA Blue and EP should each win their groups without too much difficulty. Group C harder to predict, probably Wayzata. EP over MTA in final on PK's.
MTAW is for real, just ask Tonka. They will beat Burnsville by at least 2 goals. The only mystery at U14 is whether white can hang with blue for a while in the final.
12:28 MTAW is "for real, just ask Tonka"? They tied didn't they? I don't get your point. It would make sense possibly if they had beaten them. I don't think Burnsville has a great deal to be worried about from MTAW though anything can happen in soccer.
12:39 You are the one not correct. EP 16girls were beaten by SSM 16 girls. Yes, it was the MRL team. And yes, it was a loss. The game is available on DVD if you care to purchase one to verify the score.
Now please educate us with your excuses so we can all understand why EP didn't win the game.
Unfortunately, to be on the SSM team, you also have to shell out big bucks and send your child to a boarding school where they will learn: mommy and daddy don't want you around, arrogance, whining, and have their egos further inflated by other pompous windbags. They will receive an education on par with 75% of other MN schools and when they get in the real world, they will wonder why they are never happy.
Anonymous said... Unfortunately, to be on the SSM team, you also have to shell out big bucks and send your child to a boarding school where they will learn: mommy and daddy don't want you around, arrogance, whining, and have their egos further inflated by other pompous windbags. They will receive an education on par with 75% of other MN schools and when they get in the real world, they will wonder why they are never happy.
8/5/09 12:58 PM
Blah Blah Blah Blah..Cry Cry Cry Cry..no Facts involved with this post.
Thats the same SSM team that barely beat Dakota REV U15's twice. The same Dakota REV U15 team that got beat by MTA 3rd team in the age group. SSM will not win their group, wildcard at best.
12:28 - wow that's the homer post of the early season "MTAW will be Burnsville by 2 goals (u14)". bville has given up 1 goal in 5 MRL games (to the top team at FC Milwaukee) and the MTAW cast offs that couldn't make their top Blue team are going to beat them by 2 goals? i dont have a dog in this race but it sounds like smokin dope is legal now! i guess after saturday someone is going to eat crow here (or at least make up excuses)
Unfortunately, to be on the SSM team, you also have to shell out big bucks and send your child to a boarding school where they will learn: mommy and daddy don't want you around, arrogance, whining, and have their egos further inflated by other pompous windbags. They will receive an education on par with 75% of other MN schools and when they get in the real world, they will wonder why they are never happy.
Talk about unhappy..dude, you need to check yourself.
Children, children. Since everyone seems to have their panties in a bunch over some meaningless predictions about state cup, let me make a prediction that I am 100% confident will come to pass.
Your son/daughter's team will lose.
Oh, they may win their bracket, but if they do, then it just becomes more likely that they will lose in the semi finals or finals. Or, they may win their state age group and gender, making it even more likely that they will lose at Regionals. Or, in the very unlikely event that a Minnesota team wins Regionals, it becomes even more likely that they will lose at Nationals. If, by some grace from god, they win nationals, I guarantee the will just put off losing until next year.
When they do lose you will be disappointed, and next to you on the sidelines there will be some parents from the other team that are very happy.
Know that you are not a worse parent because your child's team lost. Know that your son/daughter is not a lesser person because their team lost.
Likewise, in the games your child's team does experience success, that you are not a better parent because your child's team won, or that your child is any better than the child on the losing team.
I also predict with certainty that some of the parent's on the winning side will come to this site and post some smart arse comment about how great their team/club is.
Karma being what it is, when that person's child's team eventually loses (which they will), some other smart arse will come to this site and rub it in there face.
Once last prediction, at least one of the smart arses will make some comment about how my perspective in unappreciated and I should just shut up and let them enjoy making an arse out of themselves. So be it. I've got karma on my side.
If nothing else, let's all hope their are no serious injuries incurred by anyone's son or daughter.
MTAW is for real, just ask Tonka. They will beat Burnsville by at least 2 goals. The only mystery at U14 is whether white can hang with blue for a while in the final.
I understand that the U14 MTA - Lakeville result is not yet posted because MTA apparently used 3 illegal players today. They had some 9th graders rostered who should be U15 players.
I guess they'll have to give up their MRL championship as well.
That's a conversation I overheard after that game. Not sure of the final score, but I think MTA won by 3 or 4.
I'm guessing you were just being silly, but just in case you're a newbie - divisions aren't based on grade level, but birthdate. There are many 9th grade U14 players.
Yes, I think they tried to use the German Twins, but noticed that they actually shaved their arm pits, so they must be at least 15 years old. Can we try to get some insightful comments here instead of MTA bashing? It would be nice to hear how the games are really going after all the hard work this winter/spring.
Yes, I think they tried to use the German Twins, but noticed that they actually shaved their arm pits, so they must be at least 15 years old. Can we try to get some insightful comments here instead of MTA bashing? It would be nice to hear how the games are really going after all the hard work this winter/spring.
Ok, can we MTAW bash instead? Weren't they supposed to beat B-ville easily? I was watching the game on the the next field and it looked like a demolition was in progress over there, particularly after half time. Too bad for B-ville that Blue will club them in the final, but their results in MRL and this win put them well ahead of the rest of the U14 pack.
Great game at 13 with DR edging Tonka 1-0. DR is very strong but Tonka gave them all they could handle as DR scored midway into 2nd half. Tonka missed 3-4 great opps in final ten minutes. Should be a war in the U-13 West this year with EP, Edina, Tonka and PSA.
let's not get too excited about any team in the 14 bracket. MTA Blue is going to win it and not be too tested by anyone. It is nice to see the other teams duking it out though, this is good for their players to have healthy competition.
Hey MYSA, it's 7:32 P.M. and you haven't reported scores from games at noon and 2 P.M. Wanna use my laptop? Funny how teams have to dot the i's and cross the t's to get onto the field, but tourney officials can't plan well enough to update the website as scores are reported.
8:29 is 8:33 - who I also suspect is TE - give it up. Let the girls bring it on the field. Burnsville is a solid team - no need to trash talk. This year's MTA U14 Blue is a different team and so is Burnsville, or any other team. Why bother talking about a year ago?
6:13 Tonka should feel great about their effort. they played well. Was it just me or did it feel like that game just never got to a point where it had any flow to it? So many stoppages. Maybe that was Tonkas strategy. I agree that Tonka has improved greatly over the winter and should be a real factor in the east. Rev girls will need to increase the intensity if they want to beat EP next week.
None of the scores from the games at LWB can be posted until three players from the MTA U14 blue team can produce their birth certificates tomorrow.
They were accused of being 9th graders with July birthdays after their game. They had already left and must report before their game tomorrow with certified birth certificates.
That's why the only result posted was the U14 game between MU and TCF.
Regarding the questionable players--unless they are new to the area, I found it hard to believe they could have snuck through the system from U8 or U9 all the way up to U14 without someone finding out. Aren't birth certificates required virtually every step of the way? or is someone trying to trip them up on some ruling technicality?
Anyone else think it interesting that Blue could only manage a 1-0 victory over white? I smell fish, and it isn't lutefisk.
There should really be a new rule put in place that only one team per club be entered, MTA has been down this questionable score path before. Trying to get the wildcard, are we?
which would be meaningful if they (the blue team) hadn't won, but that's not the case... or maybe we need a new rule that only good teams can play state cup??
State Cup gives all teams a chance to compete against the best. To limit this event to only 1 team per club is a bad idea. I also think it is against USYS rules as it is an open tournament.
It would be nice to here a modest sorry and congratulations from the big mouths that spouted about MTAW handling Burnsville. This board would improve its discourse and value if someone from the group would turn around and say, congratulations we were surprised and we need to go back to work. Is it that difficult? There were about 15 MTA coaches and staff watching so there were plenty of witnessess. or perhaps someone will file a protest that the 4 goals were scored by the u13 players so technically it was 0-0. Blue is still favored for anyone who watched but can we just say it is good that there are 2 potentially regionally competitive teams in MN? Good luck to Bville and MTA Blue to make a good final
2:42, The player development that has them sitting with 3 of the 4 semi-finalists in U13 Boys State Cup bracket. The player development that has seen their young girls teams play each other in last years U13 final.
maybe 454, but with both teams already assured of a trip to regionals the game will not mean much. It may be slightly more important to SSM as it gives them something to put on the recruiting flyers.
4:54, I would call them a collection if a club formed teams at U16 or so but when they put these teams together at these younger ages it's about development.
SSM vs WDB was an interesting game. SSM clearly more skilled but WDB forwards easily able to get around SSM defenders and GK but unable to finish even with an open net several times. Fun to watch SSM mid and see how she moved on the field anticipating where the ball would be. Some good things, some bad things on both sides. Hoping the final between SSM and MTA will be good game to watch. Congrats Ladies!
"WDB forwards easily able to get around SSM defenders and GK but unable to finish even with an open net several times." And yet they cannot score a goal? One of the funnier things posted yet.
Group A - One group decided three will be decided in the last game on Saturday.
Group A MTA-Twin City Fire winner will advance Group B Burnsville-Eden Prairie winner will advance Group C Tonka advances Group D Woodbury Edne Prairie winner will advance
I would amend the above post to say "WDB midfielders/defenders were occasionally able to easily clear the ball over the SSM defenders (who spent 90% of the game in the attacking 1/2), but the Woodbury forwards were unable to finish"
call it what you want, but a ball played over the last line of defense that turns into an offensive opportunity is bad defense. should be a good final and with all the trouble SSM is having on the boys side (18's out, 17's pretty much gone), this could be the one age group for them to hang their hat on. the good news is that two well deserving teams will be going to regionals.
When in the "hand-shake" line after the Bangu U16G PR game vs. the St. Ct. Croix U16G PR game. Why would the Bangu girls spit in their palms just prior to the line handshake?
Coach of BANGU U16GPR. Do you know what the girls are doing?
well if it was a SCV game they might have been spitting in their hands just to make sure they still had some nerve sensations after two halves of "physical" soccer.
Funny how some of the bravado which used to exist here has changed to "gosh, the parents sure get wound up".
It would seem to me that some contributors here don't have children's teams that are performing to mommy and daddy's expectations.
Interesting to note which clubs performed well (and teams incidently) and yet, are NOT represented here by clucking parents about how the weekend went. I guess that tells you who really is about what here?
To the parent of the U-13 girl/s who posted this one, get real, An MTA coach or parent will NEVER admit they were out played or out coached. Instead you will get a heavy dose of "wait until you play our Blue team." I love the way you try to backhand in the U-13 player reference, which of the two is your daughter? "It would be nice to here a modest sorry and congratulations from the big mouths that spouted about MTAW handling Burnsville. This board would improve its discourse and value if someone from the group would turn around and say, congratulations we were surprised and we need to go back to work. Is it that difficult? There were about 15 MTA coaches and staff watching so there were plenty of witnessess. or perhaps someone will file a protest that the 4 goals were scored by the u13 players so technically it was 0-0. Blue is still favored for anyone who watched but can we just say it is good that there are 2 potentially regionally competitive teams in MN? Good luck to Bville and MTA Blue to make a good final
8:45 - are you still harping on what one parent might have said over a week ago? I believe you've resurrected this comment a few times now. I don't even have a child at that age, but man, give it a rest.
slight correction on the U14 needs. MTA, Burnsville and EP only need ties to advance. Woodbury, TC Fire and St. Croix need wins. With that said, MTA and Bursnville advance (duh) and so does EP.
9:22 A week ago? How about yesterday at 9:32. I have no daughter in this age group. Not an MTA parent, not with Burnsville either. I was tying,unsuccesfully I guess, to point out that both sides of this little Bicker battle seem to be a little off. MTA "wait until you play the blue team" quote is listed above. Burnsville parent bragging indirectly about his/her 13 year old daughter winning the game for her team while starting the statement talking about modesty. I love this. we all are critical of others egos,bragging,Ripping. Yet we all seem to take our turn doing just that. I just found this posting particularly funny because rarely do you get a call for Modesty (of others)within a post bragging about the authors team, and indirectly his own 13year old playing up to 14, all within the same posting. Sorry I should have done a better job seperating the quoted post from yesterday.
i am 9:32 and don't have a daughter in either program (my daughter does play u14 for a different program and I watched the game) and i have tried to follow the players and teams in this age group (i hate to admit i even have read the MTA blogs previewing the state cup that discusses it). i posted that because of the silly comments about MTA using illegal players (u14) and the whole thing is ridiculous how people talk on here. no one can ever concede (rarely) that their team was outplayed and that someone else happens to have had their kids better prepared (MTA or otherwise). when people make predictions the assumption is they have insight and it is fun to learn if you are interested in the age group (the point of blogging). the follow up right or wrong and why is also interesting. i appreciate the attention to the post and the conspiracy theories but really the point was to try to have people give compliments or criticism when due and not to draw the attention to two kids who didn't ask for it.
Back to the games on the field...at least at u13/u14 (the age groups everyone seems to hate) it worked out well that the majority of brackets will come down to head to head this upcoming weekend. That said the only game in u13 before the semis that could be competitive is DR vs EP (although DR should win) and on the u14 side, i can only see EDp vs WDB being competitive on who gets the right to get whacked by MTA Blue. Should be a good weekend but Sunday will be the more interesting day
9:49-I think we all give coaches too much credit (I have been one for a long time). They get too much blame when they lose and too much credit when they win. The truth is, the teams with the best athletes win. Ocassionally the lesser team loses on a fluke goal or bounce or call of some kind. The disparaging comments about the BV (or any other) coach are pretty lame.
9:49, Youv been a coach huh?? Well, I agree with you about the team wins with the best athletes, maybe at the younger ages, Because at the older ages, the better soccer players should win out.
personally, I'd take the player who was 100% athlete/80% soccer player over the one that is 80% athlete/100% soccer player. in the end, it's the team that has a few of the rarer 100% athlete/100% soccer player that almost always comes out on top. you really only see those at the older ages as no one is a 100% soccer player if they are younger than U15 maybe even U16. IMHO.
is the game this sunday MTA vs SSM u18 at LWB at 2:00 going to be a good display of soccer? i know there is a ton of hype on this from a 'hater' perspective but it is a good thing for a younger player to watch? or should i keep my daughter in the car so she doesn't have to hear the parents/friends/coaches back and forth during the game?
9:44- I did. And I'll give the SSM side, since you don't seem to want to speak.
Some of the SSM U16 girls parents come to games armed with airhorns, cowbells, and the like. Do I like it? Nope. Do I participate? Nope, I always figured it was going to be an issue somewhere. I can tell you that it is in the spirit of having fun, and not meant in any way to be mean to the other team. However, I understand how that can be taken. Especially in a rather lopsided game. Normally, the horns and such aren't sounded unless a goal is scored. We had ONE parent who sounded her horn after our keeper made a great save. This prompted the Center Ref to stop the game and issue a warning to our parents to only use the devices at appropriate times. Fine. But, a few moments later when she thought we had scored again (and would have without a great save by the PSA keeper)- she sounded her horn again. This understandably got the center ref upset, along with the rest of our parents. Nothing happened again- well except there was a small toot when one of the parents was taking his horn apart.
Now, let me say my piece regarding the PSA parents. Whichever people within your group chose to make fun of a player wearing Full 90 headgear- shame on all of you. The player is wearing this headgear due to injuries, and is no different than someone wearing a knee brace. I would say "how dare you as adults make fun of an adolescent girl for wearing a device like a Full 90". Do you not think that 16 year old girls are conscious enough of their appearance without a bunch of adults making fun of them?
So, PSA parents. From me to you- I am sorry if anyone was hurt or was upset because of the airhorn incident. And, I will also ask that you stop heckling other team players specifically. Be adults.
I guess SSM parents really blow- or toot. Re the MTA 16 Whites,the behavior mentioned wouldn't be surprising. 3 or 4 players on that team have done that for the last couple of years.
MTA has entire teams wearing headgear, has for years, I figured one of their directors was the rep for the company. Are all of them injured? In any case, very bush league to ridicule a kid. I hope all of us feel ashamed of the atmosphere that allows it.
1:59..I would recommend you bringing your dd to the game. As for the coaches ranting on the other side, SSM has a history of being very quiet, unless provoked. There is a time and place for coaches ranting. I know there are some out there (a lot really) that what I would call directing play the WHOLE game instead of just letting the players play. That is what training is for.
Regardless if the headgear is by choice or not, no parent should ever be directly talking crap or ridiculing a youth player on the field. Sounds like the center ref should have been paying more attention to this than horns.
So, where is the person who brought this up to defend themselves? Seems kind of like it backfired in this case?
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 1384 Newer› Newest»Agree that MTA will run away with State Cup at U14. Tonka is better than they have shown thus far though (injuries and absences), and they will be the other finalist.
I can guarentee that several of the U15 Blue key players will be rested over the next few weeks. Playing 9 games in three weeks and all the travel took its toll on some of their players. No serious injuries, just the over use injuries that occur when playing so many games in a short period of time.
Two brackets in the U-13 age group could become very clear this weekend.
Bracket A and B will likely remain unclear. Bracket A MTE and Prior lake 2 will both likely win this weekend giving the final game of bracket play a game between the two U-12 teams for the right to advance out of pool play. BTW MTE tie SCV in first league game? wow I guess anything is possible.
Bracket B Rev and EP likely both win forcing a head to head matchup for the right to advance from bracket play.
Bracket C Cottage Grove 1-0-1 plays MTN 2-0-0. The winner of this game is almost a cinch to move through because their last games against lesser teams and both should win.
Bracket D MTA 2-0-0 plays against Edina 1-0-1 . Edina has an easier final game than MTA but both should win final meaning again that a winner would likely be the advancing team.
Should be fun to watch as many of the games have a true sudden death feel to them.
SCV tied the dream team? They cheated
Doesn't it happen that some players have "off" games and other players really step it up and make some great plays in others? It seems some folks think that results from a game or two is the measuring stick to a team's likely success/demise. Frankly, I think a team can learn some very good lessons from not winning all the time. I usually cheer for the underdog when I don't have a pony in the race.
The game was rain shortened. It ended shortly into the second half. Had former years MYSA rules been applied it would not have been considered a full game but now with a recent rule change any game that reaches the second half is considered a full game. SCV is a much stronger team than most assummed they would be. This is the same team that played the U-13 MTA Blue team in State Cup to a 3-1 loss (SCV Loss).
AK would have coached MTA to victory.
So, SCV improved from their State Cup game and MTA went backwards?
No SCV brought in the Germans
I wouldn't be too sure that MTA blue will make the finals at U14. I understand they have some key players out with injuries, keeper center mid and center defender.
I guess they lost their last MRL game because they were the walking wounded.
Maybe they did too much over the winter and spring.
Maybe they did too much over the winter and spring?
ROFLMAO
I think the last time they beat someone that team was under great personal stress. They were tired from family functions, school testing, prom, sore legs, sore hair, the sun got in their eyes, it was too rainy, it wasn't rainy enough, it was too sunny, it wasn't sunny enough, the game would have been won under 1920 rules, they were fighting with their friends, had a bad date at the movies the night before, got an A- on an assignment, didn't like their school lunch on game day, they were worn out from their elite training(being the only team or club that trains hard)
etc,. etc., etc.
There has been a German cousins sighting. They are staying at their grandparents home in EP.They will be here for about two weeks then return to HS in Frankfurt.Very interesting....they brought their soccer gear with them.They are fabulous players. The attacker is practicing with the national team.
2:48 you just did a great mta coach or parent excuse collage!
Nice mention of the German Burkhardt cousins on FIFA.COM.
World Cup in Germany 2011.
Westsider
SCV U13Gs have a solid technical coach, and trained extremely well this winter. Tying MTE was a huge stretch for the team, though.
2:48,
Look at State Cup results from last 3-4 years.
No excuses necessary...unless it's from your team?
i think it is a great sign when non-mta teams work and train to try to raise their level to meet or exceed mta. as has said before, the competition raises the level of soccer in mn. it still has a long way to go to be relevant beyond its borders but that is getting better. i am not a big fan of burnsville but the fact that a club other than mta is doing well in MRL and SCV even challenged MTA's dream team is a good sign. good for mta to be challenged, good for the other clubs to try to compete. the anonymous blog hatred is inevitable but lets not lose sight of the overall improvement that competition brings. plus its mostly the parents acting like idiots, the kids are just working to get better and compete. the more competition for mta the better for the state
3:57 is right.
Look at the success many Minnesota teams are having in MWL, even in premier divisions.
A rising tide lifts all boats.
The overall level of play here in Minnesota has improved dramatically over the past 6-8 years due to clubs working hard to keep up with the leaders.
Lets give a little love to Dave Linenberger the SSM U18 coach. He has done a fabulous job. He is possibly the best youth coach in the state.His record is unsurpased and he possess's the top credentials in the state. Those who know him from his college coaching days and his time as National Coach for U.S. Soccer recognize him as a top talent.Nice to have a coach of this caliber in Minnesota.
U15 bracket has no serious ompetition.
The Premier league teams are all solid, but not exceptional. MTA White would finish in the top half of the Premier league and be a contender to win it among others, but there is no team with the overall talent of MTA Blue. It will be a truly huge upset if they lose, unless they play MTA White and throw the game since they have already qualified for Regionals.
There may be "rising tide" as far as numbers of good teams (still questionable), but attributing it to MTA is bull. If soccer is getting better, it is no different than any other youth sport where kids are training more with more opportunity to play. There have been good teams at each age forever. Stars, Inferno, Tsunami Sota, Wings, St. Croix were not part of MTA or Bangu when they were formed (although the coaches involved in some of the teams are currently there). MTA is the current vehicle for many of the best players to gather on one team. At most age groups, there is a maximum of one or two very good teams. That has not changed for 15 years. There will be a new vehicle after MTA runs its course, and no one is chasing them any more than the top teams were chased several years ago.
Linenberger is good, but AK is better (Larry told me so).
It's also beautiful to see the goobers again taking credit for improving the quality of programming in other metro clubs, as if no one would have thought of improving the collective level without the brain trust of MA, AK, MC and other goobs. This is intellectually staggering, and a little frightening, too. Yeah, I'm jealous and my kid got cut and we only beat them because of the rain and the fact that they were exhausted from getting pole-axed at regions a month earlier and they were missing people and if we beat them at State Cup it will only be because they were off in search of excellence and not playing for results...Why don't people like them again?
8:35,
Because they win.
8:35 you had me at goober, or was it the tired old line "we raised the level" the excuse machine is always a sure bet to get me laughing. How about "I like coaching motivated, highly skilled girls who play soccer" like I'm Mother Theresa working in Calcutta. What givers over there. They bestowed good soccer on us here in Mn. Which one of them coached a national champ, wait, that was the Blackhawks Hmmmm.
8:45,
But they don't all of the time...ergo the excuse list. Try to pay attention and keep up here.
I had a detailed post, and somehow it never showed up here. So, I'll try again.....but in the Cliff's Notes version.
First- with regard to the "out of state player" issue. Two things-
1) I have heard the story 15 times about Bangu "getting hosed" on the GK from Nebraska. I have YET to hear anyone explain what the MYSA official explanation was. IT IS NOT AGAINST THE RULES FOR A KID WITH A RESIDENCE IN ANOTHER STATE TO PLAY IN MN STATE CUP. MY DAUGHTER WAS OPENLY RECRUITED AND PLAYED FOR WOODBURY SPRINGBOK LAST YEAR IN STATE CUP. THERE WAS NO ISSUE WITH AN IOWA ADDRESS. So, again please someone come up with the rule on this. I certainly can't find it and know I did nothing special to get around it last year for my kid.
2) A violation of the MYSA recruiting rule can only occur with three conditions. a) person violating the rule must be an MYSA affiliate; b) club who is violated must be an MYSA affiliate; c) someone must lodge a formal complaint with documentation.
So, if SSM recruits a player in California.....were rules broken? NOPE. Why? Think of it like inter-state law. I cannot be prosecuted in Iowa for visiting the Mustang Ranch while I was in Nevada.
Now, if the player is a MN player....then there is a case. I have seen the rule enforced in Iowa- it is a $500 fine payable by the Coach of the team. I have seen it enforced three times, same coach/club all three times.
Also, boarding schools have a special set of rules under USYS bylaws/rules. Sorry, but it is what it is. There is no sense in complaining that MYSA is looking the other way just to protect SSM. That is just silly. If you want proof of that, take a peek at the standings in the current U16G C3 season that SSM is currently playing (but that is another rant).
Sorry about the length, and I hope none of my post sounds condescending or sarcastic. It isn't meant to be. I just really wish that people could all just agree that not everyone agrees on what is right for their child--- mine needs something different than yours. That doesn't make me better or worse than you, just different.
SSMSouthCampus
I will say that I have just found a rule that could be used against someone from another State rostering on a team in MN....but if used it would clearly apply to all kids even from bordering States (such as the Western Wisconsin type of kids).
I don't think that MYSA would invoke that rule.....it could be a very sticky thing. It is USYS rule #201. It specifically says that a kid must be registered in the state where he/she resides with guardians (except for boarding schools). This would clearly make it illegal for a Wisconsin kid to roster with a MN team (unless it was a boarding school).
SSMSouthCampus
SSM South Campus,
I get what your saying and agree with you for the most part. However, where does an email from one of the SSM coaches telling a player about the program and who they played fit into this. If that player is a MN player and it is before August 1, it is illegal. I have seen the emails and they are for sure recruiting MN players for there program. And now that SSM is an official MYSA club they need to abide by the same rules as every other MYSA club. Sending emails to individuals, talking about who they beat and what players have committed for next year is clearly an MYSA violation and should be punishable by MYSA. However MYSA continues to look the other way and lets SSM email every ODP player in MN without having a single fine or penalty against them.
After saying that, I have no issue with recruiting and feel very strongly that all clubs should be able to approach players at anytime to offer them the opportunity to hear about their program and what it has to offer. Too many people in this state feel that players are their property and they own them. That to me is wrong and people should be allowed to hear about any option they have for their child and then they can make a choice what is best for them. SSM recruits and that is fine by me, as long as every other MYSA club can do the same thing then we are on an equal playing field. However that is not the case and that is why people continue to have issue with SSM and its program.
14 games this weekend
Group A
MTA Blue 4 LKV 0
MUS 0 TCF 3
TCF 4 LKV 1
MUS 0 MTA Blue 5
Group B
MTW 3 BVL 1
SCV 2 WYZ 0
WYZ 1 BVL 2
SCV 0 MTW 4
Group C
TNK 4 EDI 0
ROC 3 BHK 0
BHK 1 EDI 2
ROC 0 TNK 3
Group D
MPB 3 WDB 1
EDP 1 PSA 3
PSA 2 WDB 0
EDP 1 MPB 3
3 of the 4 groups will have clear favorites.
In regard to recruiting..This is youth, no pro's. Each family and player should have the decision to explore anytime they wish. If you want to get down to it, look at Real Madrid recruiting Ronaldo from Man U who IS under contract.
If the big fellas can do it, then sure as #&%@ youth systems can do it. I agree with 2:20AM in some of what he said, Our children are not owned by anyone and clubs and coaches treat players like they are under a pro binding contract. That is SOOOOO wrong.
SSMSC, under that USYS rule #201, does it state anywhere if the state assn that the player is leaving gives written consent to play for another state (there is a form), then that should trump 201 right?? Reason I ask, we had to do this every yr she went to SSM and Eclipse??
10sDad
7:55 am - this is an uneducated post regarding u14 predictions in so many ways - top teams, bias towards MTA (in particular MTAW), over valuing Tonka, undervalue Burnsville, way too many goals, etc. Give me some of you Kool-Aid I want to go on a trip to the moon!
9:04 MAKE SOME PREDICTIONS THEN
8:01 - his record is unsurpassed??? What I have seen thus far is a complete failure to win anything meaningful with resources at his disposal most other clubs could only dream of...
Yes, he has a long resume. He has worked at a lot of places, sure does have a lot of licenses... and how many titles? championships?
He's a very good coach. Very good. Fact is, there ARE coaches in MN who have already accomplished twice as much in half the time. I can think of 3 right off the top of my head.
Are you guys talking SCV vs MTE's u12s that tied 1-1? And calling the 12s a dream team? I would think that team would finish 2nd or third in the east district behind athletic teams like SCV and Cottage Grove. That doesn't take away from the fact that having seen them play, the 12s are on track to follow in the MTA 15s and 13s footsteps.
Semi Predictions hard to know how wildcard will play out at U15 and U16.
U13 semis
13 Blue vs 12 Blue
REV vs MTA White
U14 Semis
MTA Blue vs Maplebrook
Burnsville vs Tonka
U15 Semis
MTA Blue vs Wildcard REV/MTA Grey/NSSA?
MTA White vs Wayzatta
U16 Semis
MTA Blue vs SSM or Woodbury (wildcard)
EP vs Wayzatta
U17
Woodbury vs Hawks
MTA vs St Croix
I see 12:19 is an MTA U13 Blue tam parent or grandparent. Why else would they simply refer to one of the semi final teams as 13 blue.
Their ability to promote is amazing, yet namelss provocateurs get the blame for the feuds on here!
DL is a below average coach. His credentials mean nothing. I've heard is a a decent teach, but his mustache is awful. AK is an average coach. Neither is capable of developing players.
MTAW vs tonka and Burnsville vs MPB tonight in u14 Premier games. Those should shed light on who are the real challengers to MTA Blue
2:09....Why do you say that?...are you privied to some information that we our not?.I would disagree with you but why argue with ignorance?.SSM south campus..get off the recruiting already..who cares?
12:19-interesting in that MTA Blue 17's haven't scored against PSA in five games over three years.
3:13- I didn't bring it up, someone else did. So, obviously someone cares? However, thank you for preaching to all of us what we want to discuss.
It is hard to respect the directives of an Anon. Give me the respect of knowing who I am addressing, and I'll see about caring about your needs.
Another sad day in Minn. soccer. The girls soccer coach in Monticello was charged with misconduct with one of his young players.He selected her as his favorite and then took advantage of the impressionable young girl.
These pervs like to isolate their victims. On trips she was always in his vehicle. No question there are others out there just like him.Parents need to teach their daughters to report anything that looks to be inappropriate immediately.
This is the second instance this year.
Be aware of any coach who seems to be hitting on a player no matter how innocent it may appear.
10s Dad- You are absolutely right. There is a section b which allows exactly what you are talking about. Which also proves my point- there is no rule in existence which would keep an out of state player from being rostered on a MN team (even for State Cup).
I purposely left off the other section of Rule 201 earlier. See what can happen if you only search for, or give part of the answer to a question? Section a clearly says that an out of state player can't play- but then section b equally clearly states that they can as long as they have a release from their "home state".
I am telling you that the Ted Stevens Amatuer Athletic Act says that MYSA can't do many of the things they think they can....and as soon as they push the wrong person enough of a stink will be made to the USSF which will cause a severe spanking to all those who choose to interpret the rules how they wish.
SSMSouthCampus
U14 Premier - Burnsville 3, Maplebrook 0
as Shakespeare wrote in Hamlet (and I will paraphrase it a bit for the blog) "the poster doth protest too much, me thinks"
SSMSC you should change your moniker to "ronny rulebook".
SSMSC the event you referred to (GK from NE) did happen and she was not allowed to play. The only one really to get "hosed" as you put it, was the player who had already done all the paperwork and been released form her former team. The coach of the team she hoped to play for was on here previously and explained it all to you in detail, perhaps you have forgotten. All the releases were signed, all paperwork was in order. The DOC can still say no and did. I believe the reason was that it would give an unfair competitive advantage. That is their prerogative. Now, I don't care where players come from, they should be allowed to play. I think SSM is good for soccer in the state. But please do not refer to events that you know nothing about. After all is said and done the final decision lies with the DOC, and in the past they have not allowed this to happen in most cases. A GK from ND playing for Wings is the only one I can think of. Good luck to all teams at state cup. Play your best and feel good about your effort after the game, win or lose.
I did not forget the explanation given (as you could infer from my previous post about it), nor do I doubt that it happened. However, there is NOTHING in the RULES that allow for the MYSA DOC to deny the request IF Nebraska released the player. UNLESS...the request to put her on a roster occured outside the rules allowable for State Cup inclusion (e.g.- the dates weren't met, rosters were frozen, etc.).
My point is that there where there are rules, there are those (even those in power) who misinterpret them. Someone should have undertaken the appeals process and gotten an explanation. I have to say that "she would give you an unfair advantage" does not work. You cannot stop someone from putting a player on a roster because they are "too good". Come on, you know better than that.....that is just plain silliness.
KNOW the rules so you aren't acted upon, be proactive. Don't let people spout rules at you (least of all me.....) and trust they are right. Research and understand so someone doesn't make you look foolish.
SSMSouthCampus
10:11- add to that a player from Iowa playing with the Woodbury Springbok team at State Cup and in limited MYSA Premier League play in 2008.
And, before you say "but she was at Shattuck, so she doesn't count". I'll tell you that as I recall it, the address used for her registration was in Central Iowa. MYSA would have had no way to know she was an SSM player.
I'll agree that the DOC does have some decision making powers, but only within the rules. He is not an "emperor" who can rule at his whimsy. Decisions can't be made without some rule of law behind them......and be defensible in an appeal.
SSM blabber = soooo boring!!
No kidding, he's starting to rival mta parents with his constant blabbing on here. At least the mta parents don't try to hide the fact they are on here to brag about their dd's team, ssm tries to always work in the plug about his like we don't know what he's doing.
Lots of games this weekend so lots to talk about. Let's try to keep it positive! Remember it's about the kids - not us!
Some of you people are absolutely tools. I am so tired of trying to have discussions with you about anything. It is no wonder why people like Tomass have abandoned any/all discussions.
To set the record straight, anyone who can read can see that I have not written anything to promote my daughter's team-- the Coaching staff does a good enough job at that with those that matter. Not a single person reading this blog can help my daughter or her team with anything. I/we don't need your assistance with anything.
Like other anon posters have alluded to, I will also enjoy stopping in next year to read how mad you are about what is coming. I don't feel sorry for you, your closed mindedness makes you deserve everything you get. Good luck to your children, I wish them the best. As for the "adults"-- whatever.
oh oh, now we're all on double secret probation. SSM has the inside scoop on what's coming next year and we're all gonna cry!
Spot on SSM!
SSMSC I am a big fan of the SSM program. I think it's a better choice for the truly dedicated player looking for more than winning State Cup. Part of the allure is the hope that it's players and parents that "get it" not those looking for something to bore others about around the water cooler at work. Your constant arguing with the haters on here makes me have doubts.
ssmsc doth protest too much, me thinks....
SSM-South, why the need to explain everything so much? Why are you trying so hard to get everyone's approval for SSM. It's like your coming out of the closet and trying to have everyone validate your feelings and accept you.
It's fine that you daughter goes to SSM. It's fine that they have a strong soccer program. We all hope if makes you feel good about your self, but few people really care.
The people who argue with you seem to consistently point out “fairness.” It appears that you think you are trying to “educate” the surfs with your rants. Which may give everyone a pretty good idea of your identity. You continue to express your opinions on various topics, trying to get your opponents to forget about their issues with fairness in competition (hmm…sounds like our president…but his kids don’t go to SSM…yet.)
If you look at most of the negative comments on this blog, they are targeted at success. It is MN nice, passive-aggressive behavior coming out. I personally don’t have any real issues with SSM being allowed to compete. However, I do agree on some negative points made by other bloggers regarding SSM coaching, reefing at scrimmages, constant marketing, arrogance of some players and parents, etc.
I hope you do continue to post on this blog, everyone is entitled to their opinions. Don’t expect people will stop the negativism. If you are too frustrated, then stop posting.
u14 premier last night, tonka/mta w tie, tc fire/woodbury tie, bville beats mpb 3-0. when bville plays mtaw this saturday that should show us if they are a challenger to MTA Blue.
SC, keep on posting little/big brother!! If the yahoos dont like to read your post, then use the mouse in your hand and pull down. Just because you know the rule book, your putting out facts, other than false hate that again, these yahoos all think they know.
U16 gets underway tonight. MTA Blue and EP should each win their groups without too much difficulty. Group C harder to predict, probably Wayzata. EP over MTA in final on PK's.
MTAW is for real, just ask Tonka. They will beat Burnsville by at least 2 goals. The only mystery at U14 is whether white can hang with blue for a while in the final.
Sshouldn't EP be worried about SSM in their pool at U16? They scrimmaged a while back and I believe SSM got the better of them.
1235 not sure where you get your info but that is not correct.
12:28 MTAW is "for real, just ask Tonka"? They tied didn't they? I don't get your point. It would make sense possibly if they had beaten them. I don't think Burnsville has a great deal to be worried about from MTAW though anything can happen in soccer.
12:39
You are the one not correct. EP 16girls were beaten by SSM 16 girls. Yes, it was the MRL team. And yes, it was a loss. The game is available on DVD if you care to purchase one to verify the score.
Now please educate us with your excuses so we can all understand why EP didn't win the game.
Unfortunately, to be on the SSM team, you also have to shell out big bucks and send your child to a boarding school where they will learn: mommy and daddy don't want you around, arrogance, whining, and have their egos further inflated by other pompous windbags. They will receive an education on par with 75% of other MN schools and when they get in the real world, they will wonder why they are never happy.
12:39 - back on 11/16. Check out the link if you need more details.
http://www.s-sm.org/athletics/interscholastic/team.asp?teamid=59767+%7C+Upper+School+-+Athletics+-+Girls+U16+Soccer&yearid=2008+-+2009
1248 - Tonka is widely thought to be a favorite in the U14P league and they drew with MTAW last night, thus it appears MTAW is pretty good.
Most would probably consider Burnsville and MTAB to be the favorites at this age.
Anonymous said...
Unfortunately, to be on the SSM team, you also have to shell out big bucks and send your child to a boarding school where they will learn: mommy and daddy don't want you around, arrogance, whining, and have their egos further inflated by other pompous windbags. They will receive an education on par with 75% of other MN schools and when they get in the real world, they will wonder why they are never happy.
8/5/09 12:58 PM
Blah Blah Blah Blah..Cry Cry Cry Cry..no Facts involved with this post.
Thats the same SSM team that barely beat Dakota REV U15's twice. The same Dakota REV U15 team that got beat by MTA 3rd team in the age group. SSM will not win their group, wildcard at best.
12:28 - wow that's the homer post of the early season "MTAW will be Burnsville by 2 goals (u14)". bville has given up 1 goal in 5 MRL games (to the top team at FC Milwaukee) and the MTAW cast offs that couldn't make their top Blue team are going to beat them by 2 goals? i dont have a dog in this race but it sounds like smokin dope is legal now! i guess after saturday someone is going to eat crow here (or at least make up excuses)
Unfortunately, to be on the SSM team, you also have to shell out big bucks and send your child to a boarding school where they will learn: mommy and daddy don't want you around, arrogance, whining, and have their egos further inflated by other pompous windbags. They will receive an education on par with 75% of other MN schools and when they get in the real world, they will wonder why they are never happy.
Talk about unhappy..dude, you need to check yourself.
Wow, I would say the truth hurts. Right on 12:58!
Children, children. Since everyone seems to have their panties in a bunch over some meaningless predictions about state cup, let me make a prediction that I am 100% confident will come to pass.
Your son/daughter's team will lose.
Oh, they may win their bracket, but if they do, then it just becomes more likely that they will lose in the semi finals or finals. Or, they may win their state age group and gender, making it even more likely that they will lose at Regionals. Or, in the very unlikely event that a Minnesota team wins Regionals, it becomes even more likely that they will lose at Nationals. If, by some grace from god, they win nationals, I guarantee the will just put off losing until next year.
When they do lose you will be disappointed, and next to you on the sidelines there will be some parents from the other team that are very happy.
Know that you are not a worse parent because your child's team lost. Know that your son/daughter is not a lesser person because their team lost.
Likewise, in the games your child's team does experience success, that you are not a better parent because your child's team won, or that your child is any better than the child on the losing team.
I also predict with certainty that some of the parent's on the winning side will come to this site and post some smart arse comment about how great their team/club is.
Karma being what it is, when that person's child's team eventually loses (which they will), some other smart arse will come to this site and rub it in there face.
Once last prediction, at least one of the smart arses will make some comment about how my perspective in unappreciated and I should just shut up and let them enjoy making an arse out of themselves. So be it. I've got karma on my side.
If nothing else, let's all hope their are no serious injuries incurred by anyone's son or daughter.
Good luck out there people.
it's raining......must be time for
State Cup to kick into full gear.
6:05 you are boring.
westsider - looks like 9:39 fulfilled your prediction.
MTAW is for real, just ask Tonka. They will beat Burnsville by at least 2 goals. The only mystery at U14 is whether white can hang with blue for a while in the final.
8/5/09 12:28 PM
BV 4- MTAW 0
and so did 2:45
Wow, that game started at noon, it didn't take the burnsville parents long to drive from Lakeland to Burnsville to brag about their little Mia's.
Maybe they were on their laptops, there is WiFi at LWB.
As opposed to the premature bragging about a 2 goal win for MTAW?
MTA U15 Blue 4 - 0 vs Eagan
Any other results to share? Swedish Smurf - saw you on the fields...any comments?
I understand that the U14 MTA - Lakeville result is not yet posted because MTA apparently used 3 illegal players today. They had some 9th graders rostered who should be U15 players.
I guess they'll have to give up their MRL championship as well.
That's a conversation I overheard after that game. Not sure of the final score, but I think MTA won by 3 or 4.
Huh you are just too funny
I'm guessing you were just being silly, but just in case you're a newbie - divisions aren't based on grade level, but birthdate. There are many 9th grade U14 players.
Yes, I think they tried to use the German Twins, but noticed that they actually shaved their arm pits, so they must be at least 15 years old. Can we try to get some insightful comments here instead of MTA bashing? It would be nice to hear how the games are really going after all the hard work this winter/spring.
Yes, I think they tried to use the German Twins, but noticed that they actually shaved their arm pits, so they must be at least 15 years old. Can we try to get some insightful comments here instead of MTA bashing? It would be nice to hear how the games are really going after all the hard work this winter/spring.
Ok, can we MTAW bash instead? Weren't they supposed to beat B-ville easily? I was watching the game on the the next field and it looked like a demolition was in progress over there, particularly after half time. Too bad for B-ville that Blue will club them in the final, but their results in MRL and this win put them well ahead of the rest of the U14 pack.
Great game at 13 with DR edging Tonka 1-0. DR is very strong but Tonka gave them all they could handle as DR scored midway into 2nd half. Tonka missed 3-4 great opps in final ten minutes. Should be a war in the U-13 West this year with EP, Edina, Tonka and PSA.
let's not get too excited about any team in the 14 bracket. MTA Blue is going to win it and not be too tested by anyone. It is nice to see the other teams duking it out though, this is good for their players to have healthy competition.
Hey MYSA, it's 7:32 P.M. and you haven't reported scores from games at noon and 2 P.M. Wanna use my laptop? Funny how teams have to dot the i's and cross the t's to get onto the field, but tourney officials can't plan well enough to update the website as scores are reported.
Is a 4-0 score "duking it out" or a team domination score? How many shots on net from the team that lays an egg?
Clearly team domination - lots of crying from the parents of the egg-layers.
Still no scores from today...anybody know what happened with the U16 game MTA Blue vs White?
Who let the MTA U 14 Blue parents on this site, by the way how was regions last year? Weren't they dominate last year also?
That would be the U13 team who went to Regionals as 12s. This year's U14s got beat in the state cup finals.
Scores?
8:29 is 8:33 - who I also suspect is TE - give it up. Let the girls bring it on the field. Burnsville is a solid team - no need to trash talk. This year's MTA U14 Blue is a different team and so is Burnsville, or any other team. Why bother talking about a year ago?
Who is TE?
any 17 scores yet?
8:58-yes the 17's are about the only scores posted.
6:13 Tonka should feel great about their effort. they played well. Was it just me or did it feel like that game just never got to a point where it had any flow to it? So many stoppages. Maybe that was Tonkas strategy. I agree that Tonka has improved greatly over the winter and should be a real factor in the east. Rev girls will need to increase the intensity if they want to beat EP next week.
None of the scores from the games at LWB can be posted until three players from the MTA U14 blue team can produce their birth certificates tomorrow.
They were accused of being 9th graders with July birthdays after their game. They had already left and must report before their game tomorrow with certified birth certificates.
That's why the only result posted was the U14 game between MU and TCF.
Makes no sense that the other age groups aren't posted. I can see not posting the 14s, but what about the other age groups??
And, those u14 players that are 9th graders are legit - no question.
Sounds like sour grapes to me. If you can't beat them...
any U16 girls scores ?
I know Bangu MW won vs Bangu PR 1-0
and
St. Croix won vs Eden Prairie C1 3-1
SSM? Woodbury? Any Others?
U16 girls -
SSM 5-0 vs TRV
Wdby 0-4 vs WYZ
All U16's & U17's are posted.
who was MTA U14 Blue playing (or better yet - who's raising the stink). What was the "unofficial" score of that game?
anyone?
Bueller?
Bueller?
U16G posted where? Just checked the MTSA site.
Sorry MYSA site.
http://mnyouthsoccer.org/events/09statecup/16girls.pdf
You might have to hit refresh if you've checked it earlier.
Regarding the questionable players--unless they are new to the area, I found it hard to believe they could have snuck through the system from U8 or U9 all the way up to U14 without someone finding out. Aren't birth certificates required virtually every step of the way? or is someone trying to trip them up on some ruling technicality?
http://www.mnyouthsoccer.org/events/09statecup/16girls.pdf
Not new to the area, legit players.
so who lodged the complaint? anyone know the "unofficial" score?
website says they won 5-0 vs LKV14GC101 - Lakeville.
They are SLOWLY posting scores - U13 from noon is now up.
Looks like at U13, the MTN team tied Cottage Grove which gives them the upper had to win that pool.
Been a while =)
U15
MTA Blue Eagan 4-0 best wishes to the two Eagan girls that got hurt.
EP - Tonka 0-0
REV - NSSA 0-1
MTA White - NLS 4-0
St Croix - MTA Grey 3-1
Wayzatta - TC Fire 1-1
MTA White will win State cup but lose tomorrow =)
Good luck to all teams the rest of the tournament a lot of good games tomorrow.
SS
Anyone else think it interesting that Blue could only manage a 1-0 victory over white? I smell fish, and it isn't lutefisk.
There should really be a new rule put in place that only one team per club be entered, MTA has been down this questionable score path before. Trying to get the wildcard, are we?
which would be meaningful if they (the blue team) hadn't won, but that's not the case... or maybe we need a new rule that only good teams can play state cup??
I am unable to open any of the results pdf, anyone else?
State Cup gives all teams a chance to compete against the best.
To limit this event to only 1 team per club is a bad idea.
I also think it is against USYS rules as it is an open tournament.
It would be nice to here a modest sorry and congratulations from the big mouths that spouted about MTAW handling Burnsville. This board would improve its discourse and value if someone from the group would turn around and say, congratulations we were surprised and we need to go back to work. Is it that difficult? There were about 15 MTA coaches and staff watching so there were plenty of witnessess. or perhaps someone will file a protest that the 4 goals were scored by the u13 players so technically it was 0-0. Blue is still favored for anyone who watched but can we just say it is good that there are 2 potentially regionally competitive teams in MN? Good luck to Bville and MTA Blue to make a good final
932, your conceit and arrogance know no limits.
Sweet victory somehow seems sour after 9:32's post.
If you had polled those 15 MTA coaches they would have probably told you Bville had the upper hand coming in.
Parents on the other hand...
Good luck but lighten up, it's 14 year old soccer.
Hmmm...MTA 14 Blues won again, no birth certificates required. Can we put that one to rest and focus on soccer?
13G scores from today?
Any scores from today?
Burnsville downfall will be the coaching. MTA has the better coaching staff and player development which will win the big games.
I think at u13 Dakota rev is going to win it they have the potentaul and the heart to do it!
1:46-What player development?
2:42,
The player development that has them sitting with 3 of the 4 semi-finalists in U13 Boys State Cup bracket.
The player development that has seen their young girls teams play each other in last years U13 final.
I heard the Burnsville - Wayzata U14 score was 1-0. Can anyone confirm? Any other scores?
Swedish Smurf - still no commentary. Your predictions?
I heard the Burnsville - Wayzata U14 score was 1-0. Can anyone confirm? Any other scores?
Swedish Smurf - still no commentary. Your predictions?
MTA Blue won 5-0.
EDP 13 girls will beat DKT and win their group!
most morning games are now posted.
Should be an interesting game between MTA Blue U18's and Shattuck St, Mary's next weekend for the final.
2:46-You mean to say player collection, not development.
maybe 454, but with both teams already assured of a trip to regionals the game will not mean much. It may be slightly more important to SSM as it gives them something to put on the recruiting flyers.
4:54,
I would call them a collection if a club formed teams at U16 or so but when they put these teams together at these younger ages it's about development.
SSM vs WDB was an interesting game. SSM clearly more skilled but WDB forwards easily able to get around SSM defenders and GK but unable to finish even with an open net several times. Fun to watch SSM mid and see how she moved on the field anticipating where the ball would be. Some good things, some bad things on both sides. Hoping the final between SSM and MTA will be good game to watch. Congrats Ladies!
"WDB forwards easily able to get around SSM defenders and GK but unable to finish even with an open net several times." And yet they cannot score a goal? One of the funnier things posted yet.
i always love those kind of comments. not as good as the "we dominated but lost 3-0" comment from a few weeks ago.
717-
they missed 6-7 breakaways
U14...
Group A - One group decided three will be decided in the last game on Saturday.
Group A MTA-Twin City Fire winner will advance
Group B Burnsville-Eden Prairie winner will advance
Group C Tonka advances
Group D Woodbury Edne Prairie winner will advance
Prediction...
A-MTA
B-Burnsville
C-Tonka (decided)
D-Woodbury
Semi finals
MTA beats Woodbury
Burnsville beats Tonka
Champion
Burnsville
I would amend the above post to say "WDB midfielders/defenders were occasionally able to easily clear the ball over the SSM defenders (who spent 90% of the game in the attacking 1/2), but the Woodbury forwards were unable to finish"
These games at this point aren't about the players they are really about coaches egos and next years marketing pitch.
Sorry, Burnsville plays St. Croix Valley - nobody's perfect.
call it what you want, but a ball played over the last line of defense that turns into an offensive opportunity is bad defense. should be a good final and with all the trouble SSM is having on the boys side (18's out, 17's pretty much gone), this could be the one age group for them to hang their hat on. the good news is that two well deserving teams will be going to regionals.
When in the "hand-shake" line after the Bangu U16G PR game vs. the St. Ct. Croix U16G PR
game. Why would the Bangu girls spit in their palms just prior to the line handshake?
Coach of BANGU U16GPR. Do you know what the girls are doing?
Coached or a byproduct of emotion?
How did the last two u5 games go today?
should be U15 games go
you can't be serious 9:52, but somehow i'm afraid you are.
9:52, why do you need to lie?
well if it was a SCV game they might have been spitting in their hands just to make sure they still had some nerve sensations after two halves of "physical" soccer.
U15 MTA Blue 3 Tonka 0
It's funny how that old "spit in hands" BS comes out every year.
Come up with some new lies people!
Is the state cup for the players or for bragging rights of coaches? I think the coaches get more caught up in this event than even the parents.
IMO, the coaches easily take a backseat to the parents.
Funny how some of the bravado which used to exist here has changed to "gosh, the parents sure get wound up".
It would seem to me that some contributors here don't have children's teams that are performing to mommy and daddy's expectations.
Interesting to note which clubs performed well (and teams incidently) and yet, are NOT represented here by clucking parents about how the weekend went. I guess that tells you who really is about what here?
To the parent of the U-13 girl/s who posted this one, get real, An MTA coach or parent will NEVER admit they were out played or out coached. Instead you will get a heavy dose of "wait until you play our Blue team." I love the way you try to backhand in the U-13 player reference, which of the two is your daughter?
"It would be nice to here a modest sorry and congratulations from the big mouths that spouted about MTAW handling Burnsville. This board would improve its discourse and value if someone from the group would turn around and say, congratulations we were surprised and we need to go back to work. Is it that difficult? There were about 15 MTA coaches and staff watching so there were plenty of witnessess. or perhaps someone will file a protest that the 4 goals were scored by the u13 players so technically it was 0-0. Blue is still favored for anyone who watched but can we just say it is good that there are 2 potentially regionally competitive teams in MN? Good luck to Bville and MTA Blue to make a good final
That will be a good final, until Burnsville breaks it open in the second half and wins 4-0.
8:45 - are you still harping on what one parent might have said over a week ago? I believe you've resurrected this comment a few times now. I don't even have a child at that age, but man, give it a rest.
8:45 you are boring, quit bragging about your daughter. We all get the picture, she's amazing. Move on.
slight correction on the U14 needs. MTA, Burnsville and EP only need ties to advance. Woodbury, TC Fire and St. Croix need wins. With that said, MTA and Bursnville advance (duh) and so does EP.
Burnsville is at least 3 goals better than any team at U14. MTA will hang for a while, but the cream will rise to the top in the end.
Good luck at regionals ladies.
Did anyone see the ugly display of sportmanship displayed by SSM this weekend at the U16 level?
9:43 - if burnsville is "3 goals better than any team at u14" then why did they only beat wayzata's c1 team 1-0???
9:22 A week ago? How about yesterday at 9:32. I have no daughter in this age group. Not an MTA parent, not with Burnsville either. I was tying,unsuccesfully I guess, to point out that both sides of this little Bicker battle seem to be a little off. MTA "wait until you play the blue team" quote is listed above. Burnsville parent bragging indirectly about his/her 13 year old daughter winning the game for her team while starting the statement talking about modesty. I love this. we all are critical of others egos,bragging,Ripping. Yet we all seem to take our turn doing just that. I just found this posting particularly funny because rarely do you get a call for Modesty (of others)within a post bragging about the authors team, and indirectly his own 13year old playing up to 14, all within the same posting. Sorry I should have done a better job seperating the quoted post from yesterday.
What did 16 SSM do?
Any U15 scores?
9:49 Answer - coaching.
Anonymous said...
Did anyone see the ugly display of sportmanship displayed by SSM this weekend at the U16 level?
11/5/09 9:44 AM
No, please explain
i am 9:32 and don't have a daughter in either program (my daughter does play u14 for a different program and I watched the game) and i have tried to follow the players and teams in this age group (i hate to admit i even have read the MTA blogs previewing the state cup that discusses it). i posted that because of the silly comments about MTA using illegal players (u14) and the whole thing is ridiculous how people talk on here. no one can ever concede (rarely) that their team was outplayed and that someone else happens to have had their kids better prepared (MTA or otherwise). when people make predictions the assumption is they have insight and it is fun to learn if you are interested in the age group (the point of blogging). the follow up right or wrong and why is also interesting. i appreciate the attention to the post and the conspiracy theories but really the point was to try to have people give compliments or criticism when due and not to draw the attention to two kids who didn't ask for it.
Back to the games on the field...at least at u13/u14 (the age groups everyone seems to hate) it worked out well that the majority of brackets will come down to head to head this upcoming weekend. That said the only game in u13 before the semis that could be competitive is DR vs EP (although DR should win) and on the u14 side, i can only see EDp vs WDB being competitive on who gets the right to get whacked by MTA Blue. Should be a good weekend but Sunday will be the more interesting day
9:49-I think we all give coaches too much credit (I have been one for a long time). They get too much blame when they lose and too much credit when they win. The truth is, the teams with the best athletes win. Ocassionally the lesser team loses on a fluke goal or bounce or call of some kind. The disparaging comments about the BV (or any other) coach are pretty lame.
9:49, Youv been a coach huh?? Well, I agree with you about the team wins with the best athletes, maybe at the younger ages, Because at the older ages, the better soccer players should win out.
The better soccer players ARE the better athletes which was my point.
personally, I'd take the player who was 100% athlete/80% soccer player over the one that is 80% athlete/100% soccer player. in the end, it's the team that has a few of the rarer 100% athlete/100% soccer player that almost always comes out on top. you really only see those at the older ages as no one is a 100% soccer player if they are younger than U15 maybe even U16. IMHO.
is the game this sunday MTA vs SSM u18 at LWB at 2:00 going to be a good display of soccer? i know there is a ton of hype on this from a 'hater' perspective but it is a good thing for a younger player to watch? or should i keep my daughter in the car so she doesn't have to hear the parents/friends/coaches back and forth during the game?
9:44- I did. And I'll give the SSM side, since you don't seem to want to speak.
Some of the SSM U16 girls parents come to games armed with airhorns, cowbells, and the like. Do I like it? Nope. Do I participate? Nope, I always figured it was going to be an issue somewhere. I can tell you that it is in the spirit of having fun, and not meant in any way to be mean to the other team. However, I understand how that can be taken. Especially in a rather lopsided game. Normally, the horns and such aren't sounded unless a goal is scored. We had ONE parent who sounded her horn after our keeper made a great save. This prompted the Center Ref to stop the game and issue a warning to our parents to only use the devices at appropriate times. Fine. But, a few moments later when she thought we had scored again (and would have without a great save by the PSA keeper)- she sounded her horn again. This understandably got the center ref upset, along with the rest of our parents. Nothing happened again- well except there was a small toot when one of the parents was taking his horn apart.
Now, let me say my piece regarding the PSA parents. Whichever people within your group chose to make fun of a player wearing Full 90 headgear- shame on all of you. The player is wearing this headgear due to injuries, and is no different than someone wearing a knee brace. I would say "how dare you as adults make fun of an adolescent girl for wearing a device like a Full 90". Do you not think that 16 year old girls are conscious enough of their appearance without a bunch of adults making fun of them?
So, PSA parents. From me to you- I am sorry if anyone was hurt or was upset because of the airhorn incident. And, I will also ask that you stop heckling other team players specifically. Be adults.
SSMSouthCampus
I guess SSM parents really blow- or toot.
Re the MTA 16 Whites,the behavior mentioned wouldn't be surprising. 3 or 4 players on that team have done that for the last couple of years.
MTA has entire teams wearing headgear, has for years, I figured one of their directors was the rep for the company. Are all of them injured? In any case, very bush league to ridicule a kid. I hope all of us feel ashamed of the atmosphere that allows it.
1:59..I would recommend you bringing your dd to the game. As for the coaches ranting on the other side, SSM has a history of being very quiet, unless provoked. There is a time and place for coaches ranting. I know there are some out there (a lot really) that what I would call directing play the WHOLE game instead of just letting the players play. That is what training is for.
Regardless if the headgear is by choice or not, no parent should ever be directly talking crap or ridiculing a youth player on the field. Sounds like the center ref should have been paying more attention to this than horns.
So, where is the person who brought this up to defend themselves? Seems kind of like it backfired in this case?
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