Monday, October 06, 2008

'08 Boys Sectionals

Similar to last year, 10-12 teams have a chance to win state at AA and A. Many good teams but no dominant team that will steam roll into state. This should be one of the most competitive tournaments is quite some time.

Section brackets:

Section 1: A -- AA
Section 2: A -- AA
Section 3: A -- AA
Section 4: A -- AA
Section 5: A -- AA
Section 6: A -- AA
Section 7: A -- AA
Section 8: A -- AA

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Anonymous said...

Jefferson is 3-0-2 vs teams in section finals.

Anonymous said...

AV is the luckiest team in history!! Two shootout victories back-to-back!! This was Eagan's section to win this year, but Schlittler blew it for them when he got kicked off the team right before sections.

Anonymous said...

RS is good player but his bad judgement got better of him. He has cost himself All-Conference, All-State, a run at Mr. Soccer, help his team winning Section and into State. All this is gone by bad judgement.

Anonymous said...

Agreed on Schlittler...

Anonymous said...

Osseo MG game was fun to watch. Osseo tied it on a bicycle kick with 10 minutes to play. They scored again 4 minutes later to go ahead.

Osseo was the better team, but they don't have the balance needed to win state. Their goalie is a field player wearing gloves. (I'm not kidding) He can kick it a mile, but he's a terrible keeper.

MG was out of gas at the end--no legs. Any time they had the ball in the offensive 3rd they could have scored. That's not a compliment to MG, but a scary sign that Osseo can't play D.

WB has wild touch skills. He has such quickness. Good shot too. He didn't score the goals, but he is a good player surrounded by guys with good touch. No one else in the state has an offense like them. Unreal. Lots of players with touch and pace.

Both goals were scored from inside the goal box. The bicycle was from a throw I think. The winning goal was a cross from inside the penalty box. (Their biggest weekness is passing inside the box. Opposing teams should get used to these guys playing close to goal.)

As far as the blogger who kept on posting "deer in headlights," I'd have to disagree. Osseo was better, but MG was 10 minutes from pulling it off, and Osseo was frantic...

Anonymous said...

State sites:
Hopkins, Irondale, Park, St. Cloud State

How is it decided who plays where?

Anonymous said...

NWSC State Representitives -
Osseo
Coon Rapids
Elk River?

Anonymous said...

Once again deers staring at the headlights. Can't shutdown the Osseo attacking train.

MG can have 10 boys in the back third to defend for so long but eventually the aggressive attacking team will WIN!

MG could have scored you said. HAHAHAHA! Shots were bad and straight to GK.

Be serious. How many goals did MG score for the entire season? What's their strength? Defense right? Or up one and pack the box?

That strategy will not work against aggressive, fast and skillful players.

Osseo has proved not once but twice against MG.
Bring on the next opponent.

Anonymous said...

"As far as the blogger who kept on posting "deer in headlights," I'd have to disagree. Osseo was better, but MG was 10 minutes from pulling it off, and Osseo was frantic..."

Wouldn't you be?
Gotta love the pundits.
Osseo boys will prove you wrong.
Enjoy the real show while you can.
Comparing between Osseo, AV, Jefferson, I rather watch Osseo. They play real FUTBOL!

Anonymous said...

There's no Classic Lake team in State?

Anonymous said...

Osseo is one-dimension team and it's all about WB. Shut WB down and you'll beat them.

Anonymous said...

8:22 You are a whacko. Your post reads like a manical criminal in a B movie.

Anonymous said...

and we have 8:48 to read and rate it. cool! wacko to wacko.

Anonymous said...

I think the review of the Osseo game wasn't far off. I think Osseo is the better team, but I'm biased. The post highlighted MG's chances at scoring, which was really a slam on both teams. MG had little to no offense, and to call that threatening was a shot at the Osseo D and goalie.

Our goalie got chipped on a 35 yard freekick. Major achilles heel.

Anonymous said...

8:22 = Carl Hoang. (Osseo parent and coach) The dude is a nut. Funnier than hell. But maybe not trying to be funny.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson knocks off EP twice this year.
Is Jefferson that good or did EP get outcoached?

Anonymous said...

I would say yes and yes

Anonymous said...

9:50 I think it's his brotherinlaw Paul Miller. He's funnier than hell. Or maybe his nuttier neighbor Randy.

Anonymous said...

You know those people in Ramsey.
They're loonatics!

Anonymous said...

If you look at Jefferson's loses none of them are more than 1 goal except a 3 to 1 loss early in the season to prior lake. they beat all the good teams and most of everyone else. They just need to show up to every game and i might choose them as an early favorite.

Anonymous said...

Did MG shutdown WB? How did Osseo still score without WB?

Anonymous said...

If they knocked off EP.... then watch out everybody else. Osseo is not the only team with "aggressive, fast, skillfull players".

Anonymous said...

Do the kids on Jefferson play for the Bloomington club?
Most of the BYSC teams are really bad the last few years.

Anonymous said...

A lot of Jefferson kids play in BYSC
goalkeeper, defender, centermidfielder, and forward, and wide midfielder al play bysc

most of the bench is bysc

Anonymous said...

MG did not shutdown WB--they didn't treat him any different than the other forward or outside mids coming in--they just back-pedaled to the 18 and then swarmed. Seemed to work OK for a while. Osseo is going to score goals--that is for sure. But if you can only manage 1 against them...

Anonymous said...

How did Jefferson score their goals? Bootball and play over the top and run faster?

Anonymous said...

bloomington scored on a free kick from 35-40 yards that went directly into the upper 90, and on a mishandled ball in the box by the EP goalie.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson, and every other team, plays bootball when they are at Bloomington Stadium. Jefferson probably knocks the ball around as well as anyone, which isn't all that well, when they are playing at EP Stadium.

Most of Jefferson's players played in BYSC through U14, U15 or U16. Most of them do not play with BYSC any longer. Last year's U17 BYSC team previously had some good seasons as a C1 team. That team included a handful of the Jefferson players.

It was a good game, that's why it went to a shootout. Jefferson had a great free kick goal.

-EP Fan who asked a Jefferson Fan

Anonymous said...

Told you knuckleheads when the season started the Jags had the best players and played best as a team . Also said they'd win it all if the coach stayed out of their way and let em play. They should win it all.

Anonymous said...

anon 2:13,
If you think Jefferson's coach stays out of the way you don't know him very well...LOL

Anonymous said...

2:13 knucklehead,
How does coming back from being down 0-2 at halftime to a top 3 team after making halftime adjustments make you think the coach stayed out of the way?

Weren't there previous bloggers that were previously mentioning halftime adjustments?

Anonymous said...

Was there any controversial calls last night between EP and Jefferson?

Anonymous said...

one potential foul in the box against Bloomington late in the game.

Anonymous said...

For those who need interpretation

"one potential foul in the box against Bloomington late in the game" = Ref blew the call big time

Anonymous said...

Is EP protesting the result?

Anonymous said...

How can they it is in the referee's judgement.

Anonymous said...

Just wondering why the result was not updated on MSHSL site.

Anonymous said...

EP was given 5 chances from the PK spot to make things right. Are they protesting the missed PK? The idea of a protest is laughable.

EP Fan

Anonymous said...

sorry ep fan but jefferson won and the game is in the past....complaining about it now will do..well..nothing..sorry

JEFFERSON

Anonymous said...

Who deserves coach of the year?

Anonymous said...

At this point I'd say the Jefferson coach deserves coach of the year award.
He took that team further than anyone expected. They weren't even ranked at the beginning of the year.
Look at their record against the top teams. He gets them up for the big games that really count.

Anonymous said...

Not much to talk about when there are only 8 teams left in State tournament. This blog has died quick. Need XMan to give updates.

Anonymous said...

No Xman since 10/8. Missed his updates. Wonder if his team got knocked out early and lost interest (or it's hockey season).

Anonymous said...

He's helping get Osseo ready?

Anonymous said...

DS is wellknown amongst HS coaches and he's the MN Lighting coach. Shouldn't his credentials bring Jefferson to somewhere. Also Jefferson's record is not that great to speak of. I wouldn't vote for him. Look at top ten and see what newcomers that made the biggest impact.

Anonymous said...

If Storlien up here posting away, I wouldn't care one bit. Actually I want to pick his brain on some strategy that can make my team better.

Anonymous said...

Who is Elk River playing in the championship final? If Elk River wins - there will be 3 teams from the Northwest Suburban Conference - Pretty impressive for a conference that some may call weak - Perhaps that changing -

Anonymous said...

There are Classic Lake teams and their people are no longer posting. That explains the posting traffic here.

Anonymous said...

Correction: There are NO Classic Lake teams left and their people are no longer posting here. That explains the posting traffic here.

Anonymous said...

Elk River playing St. Cloud Tech at SCSU. GO ELKS!

Anonymous said...

Go watch Lightning (head) or Thunder (assistant) or State Tournament (Jefferson) if you want strategy tips from DS. But remember, he doesn't develop players and he only goes to where the talent awaits;) I would say it was a pretty impressive 2008 for that coach when you look at his records for Lightning, Bangu, Jefferson and Thunder.

While it always comes down to team success, I would vote Osseo for Coach of the Year, with Coon Rapids, Jefferson and St. Louis Park as close 2nd places.

Anonymous said...

Does anybody know why Duluth East soccer competes in two different sections?
Boys play in 7A and girls in 7AA.

Anonymous said...

I'll vote for Osseo - Scott Smith.
Newcomer and taken them to #2 and in State tournament.

Anonymous said...

10:26 - that comes and goes with demographic and families that dedicate to soccer as primary sports. Just like basketball, hockey, and football families.
Anoka won last year for NWSC so let's see how far NWSC teams will go this year.

Anonymous said...

Has Storlien coached HS before this year?

Anonymous said...

Stolien coached Jefferson for several years then took off a few years when he bacame AD at Jefferson while working on his masters degree.
He was the coach in 2004 when Jefferson boys won state.

Anonymous said...

I agree with anon 12:54.
One of those 3 should win the award.

Anonymous said...

Storlien: Coach of the year '04 and '08.
Does this sound right?
I don't think so.
He ain't getting it.

Anonymous said...

Isn't the Osseo coach in his first year with very little soccer coaching experience? I seriously doubt that his much more veteran peers would give him an award. If they did then they would be admitting that "hey, anyone can do this"....

Anonymous said...

DS won the coach of the year in 00, 01, and 04. Not this year.

Anonymous said...

I didn't know Storlien won that many CoY awards. He should won it if he would have taken Cooper to State.

Anonymous said...

Looking down on coaches that don't have coaching experience is narrow-minded. There's much more than tactics in running soccer program. The jealous ones should not get it.

Anonymous said...

A new HS coach might have a lot of experience coaching in club soccer.
If they have coached teams anywhere from U15-U18 in club soccer that is very similar to HS soccer and adjustment isn't a big one.

Anonymous said...

What is the coaching background of the Osseo coach?

Anonymous said...

I don't know if he was voted as CoY in his section but I think Jason Jacob, would be a great selection. Tons of experience. Been very dedicated to his program which is well run.

Anonymous said...

Where does Jason Jacob coach?

Osseo coach would be deserving, experienced or not. Osseo showed up to play and got results almost every night.

Jefferson coach arrived there in 1996. Took 2 years off in 2006 and 2007 to be the AD. Returned to coach after his replacement went to the Thunder.

AV, SLP and CR coaches round out my top 5 candidates.

Anonymous said...

SLP is Chato. He loves himself.

Osseo coach is not a good candidate, as he is a track coach who happened to inherit a crazy bunch of talent. Next year will be rough.

Jacobs is a good choice. He is a soccer nut--lives and breathes it.

Anonymous said...

To be COTY, they have to be voted in their Section. Hopefully JJ got it.

Anonymous said...

5:16 Inherit IS THE WORD for many good HS coaches. Even for Storlien. You're jealous of Osseo Coach. You're narow-minded. Jacobs didn't develop those kids. He just inherits and plays them.

Anonymous said...

Why is Elk River playing at St. Cloud? Elk River was the #1 seed....

Anonymous said...

It was scheduled by the Section committee.

Anonymous said...

Score for Stillwater vs Woodbury game?

Anonymous said...

Stillwater Area 1, Woodbury 0

Me XMan said...

XMan AA State Seedings
Top 4 seedings

1. Apple Valley
2. Osseo
3. Coon Rapids
4. St. Louis Park

Blind draw into top 4 seedings
o Stillwater
o Bloomington Jefferson
o Elk River <--- Early prediction
o Lakeville North

A few thoughts
o St. Louis Park surprises me in making out of Section of Death (6AA).
o Jefferson owns EP or got lucky with shootout.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson should get one of the seeds. 2 more loses than SLP but played a lot stronger schedule

Anonymous said...

Monticello outplayed Totino Grace tonight but could not get the ball in the back of the net. Totino wins in a shoot-out. The field was a joke, they really need to reconsider playing late season section matches on that surface.

Anonymous said...

SLP coming out of 6AA was a great surprise....Can't still believe it..South, Hopki, Way, Arm, those were teams with skills. Anyway SLP you got my Vote, goodluck in State..Win everything. cuz your already proven that your can do it.

Anonymous said...

St Louis Park has a coach who knows how to get the most out of his players.
The coach understands the game better than 99%+ of the coaches in HS soccer. It makes a difference.

Anonymous said...

Chato is a very good coach. SLP should not be seeded. They did not play 1 AA ranked team.

Anonymous said...

Seeds
1. Apple Valley
2. Osseo
3. Coon Rapids
4. Bloomington Jefferson

if you had to do all of them, which the coaches have to

5. St Louis Park
6. Stillwater
7. Lakeville North
8 Elk River or St Cloud Tech

Anonymous said...

Seeding will be announced Saturday

Anonymous said...

Chato for Coach of the Year?

Anonymous said...

What is SLP playing style? Bootball. Play over the top. Fancy footworks?

Anonymous said...

Is there a difference between "bootball" and "play over the top?"

In my opinion, high school players don't know the difference. They're just kicking away in both of them. When you're playing on narrow football fields and bouncy artificial turf fields, you're forced to play "bootball."

Anonymous said...

That can't win for SLP. It has to be a different style since Chato is not from USA.

Anonymous said...

Mama mia you have it exactly right. As long as games are played on narrow american football fields, the direct/over the top/north south/bootball game is goign to be hard to resist. This is so much more the case when the field is artificial and the kids are not skilled enough to cope with how the ball moves on that surface (you have to be technical to be proficient on that field, and there are not usually that many technical players on a given high school team). Teams that play (in my opinion) the right way will have an extra challenge because they are so vulnerable to counter-attacks (unless they have a rock solid defese). So all this criticism of coaches who play directly misses the point. If the coach is under pressure to win, then he or she wd be stupid not to consider the direct option bc of circumstances (limited talent bc it is a high school setting, narrow an long fields, etc). But if a team tries to possess and attack from possession in hs soccer? Well, I hope that becomes more possible and it certainly is better to watch even if the direct counter hits hard. . . .

Anonymous said...

SLP got beat by Wayzata 3-2 last year in 6AA Championship game. This year they didn't let that happened again. Good job boys!

Anonymous said...

Chato played for MN Thunder in '97. He knows the game more than anyone and how to fire up the boys.

Anonymous said...

Chato came to MN Thunder in '93 from Costa Rica. He's in his 9th year at SLP.

Anonymous said...

JJ inherited his boys? Would that be the same set of boys an team he was the player development director for up until the last 2 years? I don't know I guess I would say he had a significant role in the develop those players.

This seems like the way alot of teams are going. Osseo team is pretty much the same team as Arsenals U18 team. The Wings certainly have been making decisions in Armstrongs best interest.

Anoka made their title run this way. The downside is from what I heard a Anoka parent say is not one of their players was offered or made a college soccer team that wasn't D3.

Anonymous said...

Very true regarding how the size of the fields can affect the style of play. Although the lengths might be comparable between a standard pitch and playing on a football field, it is the widths that make the biggest difference. Standard soccer pitches run 70-80 in width, while the width of a football field is 160' (53.33 yards). Most high schools stretch their soccer fields outside the football sidelines, but I would estimate the average high school soccer pitch might be 63 yards, much narrower than a standard soccer field making a true possession attack much more difficult and a vertical attack much more attractive.

Anonymous said...

9:35,
I agree. However, coaches don't do much to restrict our technically challenged players from playing "bootball." As you said, coaches need to win. The typical HS game involves players 1-touch kicking bouncing balls back-and-forth with the other team. Players that do this should be benched. Players should be forced to use more than 1-touch at all times even if it results in a steal. Coaches won't do this because they're afraid of the consequences (losing, benching top players, "the direct counter hitting hard," etc.).

Therefore, the HS game will continue to be unappealing to fans. Student fans won't attend games. Programs won't gain ticket sales. Fields will be bad and/or financially efficient i.e. turf. Parents will complain about the ugly product. Young athletes will choose more appealing sports. Coaches will do whatever it takes to win. Players will boot the ball. And the cycle of ugly HS soccer continues.

Anonymous said...

Anyone have any A seeding predictions? Three teams are from the Tri-Metro Conference.

Anonymous said...

17/10/08 10:17- what is wrong with D3? Last years anoka squad was a great team that did really well. A few of their players have moved on to d3 schools and are playing big roles as freshman. I bet if you track those guys down and asked them about the "downside" they would tell you winning state was awesome and that playing in college is great.

Anonymous said...

mama mia. HS coaches don't need to win to keep their jobs. A big fallacy here. They get to keep their jobs either way. It's the fear of losing a game and shallow soccer knowledge. This results in get the ball away as far from their goal as possible and hence bootball. HS AD need to bring in more knowledgable coaches to bring up the playing level. But of course soccer is at bottom rung so who cares.

Anonymous said...

Fields are narrow with choppy or bouncy surfaces.

Many fields are crowned which makes the narrow field play even more narrow.

This forces players to play closer together. This results in less space and then less time for players.

Little time with a bouncy ball forces players to panic when they have the ball. Panicking with the ball forces players to get rid of the ball.

Why can one team look completely different from one game to another? Field quality.

Bad HS soccer is completely a result of technically challenged players playing on awful fields.

Anonymous said...

There's nothing wrong with playing D1 or D3 since 90% of them WILL NOT PLAY PROFESSIONAL. Get a good education is #1 just like in HS.

Anonymous said...

10:36,
Good point.

Anonymous said...

10:39 and especially after a football game the night before.

Anonymous said...

90% will not play professionally? I think you might be almost 10% too low in your assessment.

Anonymous said...

Prediction from an anonymous poster...Stillwater will suprise.

Anonymous said...

11:11 so 2 out of 10 will play professionally? How many teams in MLS (pro) and USL (semi-pro). How many on each roster. How many college soccer players in all divisions? It's 1 out of 10 or less will play professionally from statistics.

Anonymous said...

i think what 11:11 was getting at is that the number might be closer to 100%, not the other way around.

Anonymous said...

11:11 my apology. I misread your post.

Anonymous said...

Saying JJ trained those CR boys is a bit of a stretch.

Anonymous said...

WB is Region II player.
http://www.region2.com/92%20Extended%20Pool.pdf

Anonymous said...

Stop misreading and misremembering things on blogs. It creates way too much confusion.

What % of the MLS was born in the United States?

Anonymous said...

ODP is a joke.

Anonymous said...

2:15 go figure out yourself.

Anonymous said...

Nothing wrong with D3, but if your going to school with the hopes of playing soccer and getting a quality education. Why would you want to limit your self to just opportunities at D3 schools? There are quality schools at D1, D2, D3, and NAIA. I believe Paul Grandstrand is getting a quality eduction at Brown University.

"Saying JJ trained those CR boys is a bit of a stretch.' anon 1:43

Didn't say he trained them, said he helped develop them. Whether Krutchen and Kisch believe it, Jacobs did help in their development. To say otherwise would not only be a bit of a stretch but a bit egoistic.

Anonymous said...

17/10/08 4:10- so what is your argument in regards to the anoka guys "only" making it on d3 teams?

Who is limiting themselves "only" to opportunities at the d3 level?

Anonymous said...

It's called a turnover not a steal.
ODP is a joke, high school soccer is a joke, what isn't a joke? Professional?

Anonymous said...

My 401K is a joke!

Anonymous said...

Sorry, I meant to sign that post as Anon 17/10/08 10:28 AM. I was responding to Anon 17/10/08 10:31 AM post asking what was wrong with D3 schools.

My orginal post kind of sounded like I was slaming D3 school. Which was not intent.

Two years in a row we have teams that are going to the State Tournament who have played all summer together. I don't have a problem with this. An Anoka parent had been talking to me regarding their sucess and express their disappointment that they did not get much attention from other than the local D3 colleges. These are quality school, but this parent indicated that they thought by winning the state tournament they would gain some attention from some D1 school.

That is probably a unrealistic expectation.

Anonymous said...

Yes, an unrealistic expectation. Winning nothing in Minnesota will attract the attention of D1 programs, except for maybe Milwaukee, Madison and Green Bay- these teams seem to love mediocre Minnesota talent.

If you are serious about playing D1 soccer, stick with ODP, particularly at the regional level. As political as it is, it is one of the best ways youth players have at exposing themselves to D1 scouts.

There are obviously more ways to make yourself known among D1 coaches, but simply having high school and club success in MN will guarantee you nothing.

Anonymous said...

Shows the general lack of the bigger soccer world by many in this state who put emphasis on HS or club state championships. That's all they know. Great for the memories and trophy collection - diddly squat when it comes to national recognition and collegiate scholarships.

Anonymous said...

Playing for a successful club team, by that I mean a top 30 nationally ranked team, will also get you many D1 looks.

Anonymous said...

Playing MRL Premier League will help you get regional midwest D1 school looking at you.

Obviously, the 89-90 Wings team that played at that level have several players playing D1. I don't recall if they cracked the top 30 Nationally rank teams. But I think they did.

But players can still get a quality education playin D3. The real shame is that D2 & NAIA have no presents here in MN at all. Iowa has some very good NAIA schools, but for the life of me I cannot understand why neither of them have any presents in MN. Does anyone know why?

Anonymous said...

Cuz MN don't show interest in the game, staying here is like holding back ur career.

Anonymous said...

Heck....with the talent Jefferson has anybody could coach that team to the state championship.People in the know predicted a championship for them when the season started.

Anonymous said...

If Jefferson has that much talent why did their record totally suck last year?

Anonymous said...

Jefferson has average talent like any other kids on C1 team.

Anonymous said...

St. Cloud Tech 1, Elk River 0
Anyone has game recap?
ER beat SCT earlier in the season.

Anonymous said...

do the top academic schools in the MIAC like Carleton and Macalester have a tougher time fielding a competitive team because odf the minimum standards they need to get in or does it help get high school players because they get more interest from players around the country. MN high school players probably make up more than 50% of the UST, SJ and GUS rosters, while CAR and MAC might have less than 20%

Anonymous said...

Which team has the most Premier players and in State tournament? Apple Valley? Not Jefferson since they're all C1 players.

Anonymous said...

I think Jefferson has at least 3 players who were on the Bangu Midwest League team this past season.
Don't know where all the other kids play.

Anonymous said...

and two premier wings players

Anonymous said...

8:55 am - Carleton is the top team in the MIAC right now and was also last year - So I wouldn't say they have a tough time fielding a competitive team. Bethel proabably has the toughest time due to the conservative beliefs -

Anonymous said...

state seedings are done

Anonymous said...

What are they????????????????????????????????????????????

Anonymous said...

Jefferson talent is okay. No division 1 college kids

Anonymous said...

Valley U17 boys has 8 valley boys, 2 jefferson, and 2 lakeville north in the state tournament

Anonymous said...

Apple Valley #1
vs
St Louis Park

Bloomington Jefferson #4
vs
Stillwater

Coon Rapids #3
vs
St Cloud Tech

Osseo #2
vs
Lakeville North

Anonymous said...

St. Louis Park to BEAT UP Apple Valley and to show how real FUTBOL is played.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson has 5 division1 players.
11:41 what does that mean?

Anonymous said...

Name them all

Anonymous said...

Who are the D1 recruits from BJ?

Anonymous said...

I like to hear this or just bunch of BS...

Anonymous said...

i think its bs. Jefferson has talent, maybe 1 or 2 going to good schools to play soccer

Anonymous said...

winning the state tournament as a senior may help you get invited to walk on at a d1 school but for the most part d1 coaches have no scholarship money (if they have much to begin with) left by that time. For the most part, they recruit two years ahead.

Anonymous said...

I doubt if any boys teams have 5 players who who will play D1 in college.
That would be quite a feat for any Minnesota boys HS team.
Sounds like kids bragging and spouting off.

Anonymous said...

Mac and Carleton definately recruit from a smaller pool of prospective talent due to the academic standards. St. Thomas/Johns, Hamline, Augsburg, etc., have a larger pool of talent to choose from but end up recruiting the same kids. Every situation poses its own advantages and disadvantages. A dedicated, smart coach, who knows what it takes to win and is willing to put in the work can overcome whatever obstacles are imposed or created by the institution they work for.

Anonymous said...

Since we are on the subject of d1 schools, who is going where? RG is headed to Madison. That is all I have heard despite the WB love/hate fest.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson Vs. Osseo in the championship game i would say.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson to get by Stillwater first and then AV or St. Louis Park.

It would be nice to have Jefferson lose and we won't much BS around here anymore.

Anonymous said...

In Summer 2008, Jefferson had 3 players on Bangu U17, 2 on Wings U16, 1 on Arsenal U16, 1 on Bangu U15, 3 on BYSC U17 C1.

A couple of their players might be D1 players. Their top seniors are being recruited by some of the MIAC schools.

Anonymous said...

RG is not going anywhere!!

Anonymous said...

MIAC School are recruiting just about all the seniors. As much as those coaches would like to tell you, there is a huge difference in the level of play between MIAC and D1 soccer.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson's success or failure will depend on how the games are called. If it's a slugfest they will win through. On skill they won't go very far.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson has 1 great defender, 2 great attacking midfielder and a cast of other solid players

Anonymous said...

Not saying they don't have some talent...just that in order to win against other teams with talent they'll have to hope the refs don't call those push offs or tackles....

Anonymous said...

Whatever, that just about the dumbest comment I've read on here. (and that's saying something)

End less your just trying to start some stupid agruement, the game is called soccer.

We tackle the ball, push offs as long as they are shoulder to shoulder is a good play. Stop thinking this is some sissy sport were if you toe tap the ball in the middle of the field someone not going to come up and mug you.

Anonymous said...

Everyone always has something bad to say about the good points of minnesota soccer....First example whitney browne..one of the best players in the state and possibly in the region. He gets criticised for not scoring a goal in a game. Second example, Bloomington Jefferson... A very good team in the state that have a good chance to win it all yet some foolish people still think they are a bad team...beating edina and eden praire to get into state..Jefferson did all the dirty work for the other teams...Both edina and eden prairie would have been favorites

Anonymous said...

Everyone always has something bad to say about the good points of minnesota soccer....First example whitney browne..one of the best players in the state and possibly in the region. He gets criticised for not scoring a goal in a game. Second example, Bloomington Jefferson... A very good team in the state that have a good chance to win it all yet some foolish people still think they are a bad team...beating edina and eden praire to get into state..Jefferson did all the dirty work for the other teams...Both edina and eden prairie would have been favorites

Anonymous said...

I'm in knee-deep with Jefferson sh*t here...OMG

Anonymous said...

I think it all shakes out in the end. The team that has the coaching, game plan, players and good luck all come together at the right time wins. Shoulda, coulda, woulda...... didn't.

Anonymous said...

the purpose of this site is to complain, whine, condemn, criticze and above all not say anythiung nice about any good about mN soccer. why should I say anythiung nice, we do that everytday so I come here to take shots at everything and everybody:" players, coaches, fields, AD, MYSA, and all. If you want to read this blog, you come here for juicy stuff.the is the CJ of MN soccer...the MYSA newsletter is for the other stuff

Anonymous said...

10:54, you don't know what you're talking about. I would expect a D1 team to beat a D3 team every time and D1 players are on average certainly better than D3 players, but "huge difference" is not correct. Look at the D1 transfers that come to the MIAC and don't dominate the league. Look at the D3 players that can excel in the USL. There is a difference, but it isn't "huge." Many of the D3 starting players could be in the same boat as many of the D1 rostered players.

The top D3 teams would beat many of the bottom D1 teams. Similar to class A and class AA in MN. Similar to USL and MLS. Similar to pro leagues all over the world.

In the whole scheme of things, very few seniors get recruited by anyone. Count how many MN freshmen are on varsity rosters in the MIAC.

Anonymous said...

MIAC is quite physical.

Some of the MASL teams could beat the MIAC teams.

Looking forward to another year of a South West metro surburban team NOT winning the tourney. You guys are in love with yourselves. Kinda funny.

Anonymous said...

I will set it straight for those saying that BJ is composed entirely of C1 Bloomington players. They have 3 u17 bangu players starting, 1 wings u16, 1 valley u16, 1 bangu u15 or 2, 1 arsenol player, and they have another wings u16, future u17 thunder elite who did not play against ep. So that is 8 or 9 premier players with a few really solid C1 upperclassman, plus some outstanding coaching. That said, I like Osseo and Jefferson in championship, WB maybe too much to handle.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson is a stud team. wow.

Anonymous said...

Did WB do any damage in MG games? He's got shut down in both MG games. He's non-factor. Got luck with those setups.

Anonymous said...

osseo will not go far against good teams in the state tournament and you wont hear WB's name the whole tournament

Anonymous said...

i'm guessing you'll hear his name when he's named mr. soccer.

Anonymous said...

What? WB? How? He put in those easy setup balls. Why not Fadis.

Anonymous said...

I'm still thinking WB, his numbers are really high this year. Dula is good no doubt. It couldve been RS but he blew it. Who knows everyone is thinking WB but maybe not..

Anonymous said...

congrats to dan killen for winning mr. mn soccer "a". dan is second to win from st. bernards.

Anonymous said...

I recall a earilier leak from the coaches meeting saying WB was not Mr. Soccer. Maybe they are yanking our chain. I hope they are not. But, we should know by the end of the night.

Anonymous said...

osseo has a once in a life time offence, no way can any team in the state match up against how dangerous they are. But my question is if their goalie can hold up against some better quailty teams. Last year wayzatas goalie was injured and needed a back up, they lost in the state championship because of it. Hopefully that is not the case this year..

Anonymous said...

any predictions early? Osseo and AV maybe favorites..what about SLP or BJ?

Anonymous said...

It would have been easy to guess that BJ had 8 or 9 very good premier/MRL level players. DS would never coach a team that wasn't already assembled for him. New acronym...NC, no class

Anonymous said...

Mr AA Soccer: Whitney Browne (Osseo)

Anonymous said...

Ah yes, best of the very average senior class!

Anonymous said...

anon 8:29,

so true, mediocre at best

Anonymous said...

I'm no WB fan, but the kid is good. He has an amazingly gracefull touch with the ball typically not seen with HS soccer. For all of you that have not seen him in action, prepare to be impressed. Anytime he gets the ball near the box, you are afraid. And he gets it near the box often.

Someone earlier put it right--Osseo has an amazing offense. It's also remarkable to count the number of blown chances in any game. Their goalie is equally alarming, for the wrong reasons.

Anonymous said...

I'm no WB fan, but the kid is good. He has an amazingly gracefull touch with the ball typically not seen with HS soccer. For all of you that have not seen him in action, prepare to be impressed. Anytime he gets the ball near the box, you are afraid. And he gets it near the box often.

Someone earlier put it right--Osseo has an amazing offense. It's also remarkable to count the number of blown chances in any game. Their goalie is equally alarming, for the wrong reasons.

Anonymous said...

Give the kid a break. He's had a good season and is deserving of the award. Anyone know where is he going to school? Is he joining his brother at Western Illinois? Martin is a fine D1 student-athlete.

Anonymous said...

I believe it was going to be Western Illinois, but as he's had a great season, he has been talking to Madison. We'll see, he is a great player, part of a pretty good senior class. But don't forget that he is a year young..he played u16 last summer..pretty remarkable.

Anonymous said...

6:11 Osseo team this year is no comparison to '04 or '05 team. They didn't win those finals due to coaching or none of it. Look at the coaches for this year offense.

Anonymous said...

you dont know Storlien if you are saying no class

Anonymous said...

It's hilarious when WB was announced, there was this I-can't-believe-it silent and then applause. LOL! funny.

Anonymous said...

Looking over the list of All-State and All-State HM, only WB is in and not any other Osseo kids. Are coaches that naive for not recognizing any other kids from Osseo? Not even for Honorable Mentioned? Very strange.

Anonymous said...

Comparing to Collin M who won last year and WB, I'll take WB anyday. Collin was the JOKE!

Anonymous said...

Can someone share the Class AA All State Teams? They're not up on the Coaches website yet. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Osseo is a one man team! WB and thats it...

Anonymous said...

BTW, MG successfully shutdown WB and still lose. That said something for the team.

Anonymous said...

The award hasn't been given to the right person for the past years.

Anonymous said...

The award hasn't been given to the right person for the past years.

Anonymous said...

Who do you think earned it the past years?

Anonymous said...

If your coach don't get along with the Conference Reps, you can be sure that they will not go and bat for your players. It's an old boys network.

Anonymous said...

Last year was entitlement year for Collin. He was not in any shape or form to win that award. That was pure politics on the old boy network.

Anonymous said...

I just thought that coaches should stop lookin at stats, cuz there are better players than the ones that just wait for the ball to score

Anonymous said...

Again, who do you think deserved the awards the "past years"?

Anonymous said...

Dula '08 mpls south

Nuradin Yusuf '07

Anonymous said...

Mike Hutton should have won it. He's way better than Collin. Callum Mallace is another. Head and shoulder above Colin.

Anonymous said...

Dula is good but working without supporting cast. Put Dula with Osseo and he'll win it for sure.

Anonymous said...

your call was even close than mine i agree but the point is that collin wasn't the right person.

Anonymous said...

I second Mike Hutton over Colin.

Anonymous said...

Dula is good for sure, South defense was a joke this year thats why they didn't go far.

Anonymous said...

Colin wasn't the best player on his own team last year, let alone Mr. Soccer. Colin is a very skilled player but the award was designed to recognize the player who made the greatest contribution to his team during the H.S. season. Colin was the third best on his team during the year. Mike or a host of others were certainly more deserving. They had better years and meant more to their teams.

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